Caylee Anthony 2 year old General Discussion #61

[Harry]

Why is the "pool ladder/open gate" story being given more credence than any of the other tall tales we've heard from this family?

Yes, the pool ladder was down in July when the backyard search was done. What outside corroboration do we have that Cindy and George are being truthful with respect to their sudden clarity about June 16th?

As much as I would like to believe these people, I mean the drowning scenario is plausible, but they lie about everything.

I have two experiences with drownings. One involved my neighbor and the other a dear friend. It is the worst thing you can ever imagine. I just die when I think about the pain those families will always endure. They are nice, nice families who had something unimaginable happen in their lives. A nightmare from which they will never awake. If drowning was the cause of Caylee's demise I can almost understand if Casey lost her mind at that point (and that is difficult for me to say because I think she is a piece of ****) but I cannot fathom concocting this absurd story. There are too many other situations going on. Her actions, her demeanor, her lack of horror and remorse and concern.

I think Casey killed her daughter and it was not an accident.

So for me, I do not believe the drowning story which is obviously being tossed about for response by the family. They are sick sick sick people and I am ashamed for them. Arrest them all!!!!!!!

 

[DianeB]

Just because he was LE does not mean he ever smelled a dead body. So we can say he may have known but we can not be certain he knows what a dead body smells like.

According to an Ohio newspaper, George was a detective in the sheriff's office for eleven years. I think it's unlikely that in all that time, he never had occasion to be around a dead body.

 

[SuziQ]

She could have even spent time there with Caylee saying she is asleep. Twisted but if we need a wider window, off to Great Grandma's house its a thought along with the deep freeze. Could she be close to there now?

I'm not sure. I would definitely be interested in knowing more about this possible connection.

 

[shannon718]

CHECK

FOR YOU:

DOG HITS

Trunk
Playhouse
Sandbox
Corner of Pool

Forensic Evidence so far...(that we know of)
Dirt sample taken from Backyard
Gas Cans
Shovel
Luminol Photography being performed inside the house ( In the Back)(which I believe faces the pool)
Hair like Caylees in trunk
Stain in trunk that hit under luminol (fluid or blood)
Smell in trunk which two detectives (Yuri, George) and a nurse (Cindy) identified as being decomposition.

12 bags of unknown evidence taken from home today
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[CheckDaFacts]

Could be somewhere else to car to backyard back to car to somewhere else, if the death occurred elsewhere and a plan to bury Caylee in the backyard didn't pan out.

Casey told LE that on the day Caylee went 'missing', she went over to Tony's because she felt 'safe' and was 'pacing and worrying'.

I wonder if she shared any of this anxiety with Tony (if he was even home).

Could be but the body would have to be in good shape with 1st transport and immediately after event happened, we know by final transport it was not.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

I went to look for the "digging" pics. I had one and was working the rest when my "puter froze and I lost it all AAARRRGGGHHH.

I tried to look thru the pic thread but didn't see the ones I had. I went to WESH.com and WFTV. com wesh had one pic - showing them up against the wodden fence looked like back in the bamboo WFTV had video.

I know I saw them digging in the back corner of the yard. They also moved the playhouse and the concrete "stones" under there - WESH had those pics.

 

[gigi2009]

Can be correct if he never responded to a DOA but didn't he work a small town with a small force? Now if he actually was a homicide detective, there is no way around him missing that one, lol

We had rookie cops do some ride alongs with us to get a feel for trauma, doas, and a list like you couldn't imagine. Interns from the hospital would do ride alongs to see how the golden hour starts in the field. And cops usually are present for dead body removal by the coronor.

 

[Leila]

How did the neighbor suddenly remember the date was the 18th ?

It's been LE that has said "mid-June." Tonight Mark Fuhrman said it was June 18th. He may have interviewed the neighbor himself, or has talked to LE and gotten the info from them and was allowed to state it.

 

[Busylady]

Most everything I am reading says dogs hit sandbox and by the pool, but they are not quotes from LE. They are mosty statements that Cindy is making saying LE told her that one dog hit those two areas but the second dog did not hit at all in the backyard.

 

[shannon718]

Could be but the body would have to be in good shape with 1st transport and immediately after event happened, we know by final transport it was not.

Whatever happened, I strongly believe that Casey moved Caylees body from one place to another creating the smell in her trunk. Where they find Caylee will not be where she died.

 

[gigi2009]

I can see the blowup happening. I can only imagine what Casey would have done if someone had presented her with hard core evidence and refused to let her lie her way out of it. In fact, I am interested to see what kind of a reaction she will have if LE is able to do that to her.

Me too and hopefully LE will have the evidence so to do just that! :clap:

 

[liltigress]

On Greta tonight, I heard them discussing that they only used blacklight, looking for any bodily fluids. Am I going nuts? I didn't think they used the luminol.

 

[CheckDaFacts]

CHECK

FOR YOU:

DOG HITS

Trunk
Playhouse
Sandbox
Corner of Pool

Forensic Evidence so far...(that we know of)
Dirt sample taken from Backyard
Gas Cans
Shovel
Luminol Photography being performed inside the house ( In the Back)(which I believe faces the pool)
Hair like Caylees in trunk
Stain in trunk that hit under luminol (fluid or blood)
Smell in trunk which two detectives (Yuri, George) and a nurse (Cindy) identified as being decomposition.

12 bags of unknown evidence taken from home today
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Can you link me to the copies of hits on playhouse, pool, sand box. Or where can I see the dates on and the official statements. Sorry but this is the 1st time I heard dogs actually made a hit on those many areas for decomp. My question would then go to why those items were not deconstructed?

 

[Wise Old Owl]

luminol is the chemical - they spray it and then turn on the UV (blacklight) it there is any bodily fluids they will light up

 

[shannon718]

On Greta tonight, I heard them discussing that they only used blacklight, looking for any bodily fluids. Am I going nuts? I didn't think they used the luminol.

I believe luminol is what makes it show up underneath the black light. In addition, to do the photography they would have had to black out or block the windows which they did.

 

[not_my_kids]

I think that i will try to see what was dug up when George ran for County Clerk in Ohio. Political battles seem to really bring up the dirt, even when its a local issue. Might be something there that will shed some light on at least George's history. maybe Cindy's too.

 

[PoppyMcTwist]

Hi Everyone...


I have a question:

Could Casey's clothing have left a cadaver scent in the back yard? (assuming she was in contact with Caylee's body)

 

[shannon718]

Can you link me to the copies of hits on playhouse, pool, sand box. Or where can I see the dates on and the official statements. Sorry but this is the 1st time I heard dogs actually made a hit on those many areas for decomp. My question would then go to why those items were not deconstructed?

Cindy always says they were "inconsistant hits"...playground, pool, sandbox I don't know if there are documents but it was definitely reported. Ill try to look.

 

[CheckDaFacts]

On Greta tonight, I heard them discussing that they only used blacklight, looking for any bodily fluids. Am I going nuts? I didn't think they used the luminol.

Who gave this info? The guy that owned the company, an atty? No one was allowed inside, how would they have the info. when did LE speak out?

 

[liltigress]

I believe luminol is what makes it show up underneath the black light. In addition, to do the photography they would have had to black out or block the windows which they did.

No, I realize that. Luminol will show up for blood. I heard them say they were looking for body fluids.. even mentioned semen. They wouldn't need luminol for that with a blacklight.