Caylee Anthony 2 year old General Discussion #64

[Elley Mae]

So Casey did go to the beach with Jesse.

 

[CarrieSis]

It's worded that the clothes they took are not only supposed to be the ones that Cindy washed, but the ones that George last saw Casey in.

Meaning she didn't change clothes between the time she and Caylee left, and whatever happened? Or were they discarded in the car and smelled the same way clothes put in a smoker's vehicle would smell?

So many ways I can see that going...

 

[liltigress]

According to the search warrant:

On July 17th, Detective Jerold White obtained a court order for the defendant's cell phone records (407-619-9286). Inspection of these records show no numbers belonging to a Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez, Jeffrey Hopkins (in Jacksonville, Florida), or Juliette Lewis. As to the "private phone call" received on July 15th around 1200 hrs where the defendant claims to have spoken with Caylee, there is no incoming call to her cell phone at that time. The closest two incoming phone calls to her phone came in at 0013 hrs from Anthony Lazzaro and the next at 1535 hrs from someone named "Kyle".

 

[unravel]

You nor I know anything about this woman and what connection she has or doesn't have in regards to this little angel. When she agreed to put herself out there in the public spotlight, she made a decision with consequences.

I know a few things about this woman, most important being that she didn't put herself out there in the public spotlight. She was forced into that position when Casey chose to use her name. People began contacting her about this weeks ago, and she's received a flood of phone calls and emails since. People were speculating about the kind of person that she was, or what her involvement was long before that interview.

She's spoken to detectives at least twice, and has denied knowing Casey, knowing Caylee, or having ever been a nanny each time. Casey was shown a picture of this woman and could not identify her. AFAIK, she's merely Zenaida Gonzelez, not Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez. Casey was been fairly adamant about the Fernandez hyphen bit, even lashing out to a friend on the phone about how police were only looking for Z Gonzalez, or Z Fernandez, and they'd never find her b/c they weren't looking for the hyphenated name.

 

[Starr58]

I posted the search warrant in the locked NON-discussion affidavitt thread to preserve it for reference during future court proceedings. I requested that a discussion thread regarding the search warrant be created. Can anyone do this or is that the responsibility of admin or moderator?

 

[shannon718]

It's worded that the clothes they took are not only supposed to be the ones that Cindy washed, but the ones that George last saw Casey in.

Meaning she didn't change clothes between the time she and Caylee left, and whatever happened? Or were they discarded in the car and smelled the same way clothes put in a smoker's vehicle would smell?

So many ways I can see that going...

They are the same clothes that she washed and found in the back of the abandoned car and also the same clothes that she was wearing on the last day anyone saw Caylee alive.

 

[Liz]

Could be the reason she's appearing now. Now that would be an interesting suit!

Yeah, pretty soon LE won't have to "GO LOOKING" for any of the 800 or so ZG's... they'll all be flocking to Orlando, FL to file their law suits! Maybe a class action suit?

Oh, this case just keeps getting curiouser and curiouser. :crazy:

 

[UCFAlumni2002]

The closest two incoming phone calls to her phone came in at 0013 hrs from Anthony Lazzaro and the next at 1535 hrs from someone named "Kyle".

I found that to be the most interesting from the search warrant.. Not at all implying that Tony or Kyle have anything to do with it, however, would like to know who the "Kyle" character is.

 

[TripleA]

So Dad removes gas cans and possibly tries to clean with Arm and Hammer while Mom washes the clothing that Casey was last seen wearing before Caylee disappeared?

Nice!

 

[Blue_Dolphin308]

I posted the search warrant in the locked NON-discussion affidavitt thread to preserve it for reference during future court proceedings. I requested that a discussion thread regarding the search warrant be created. Can anyone do this or is that the responsibility of admin or moderator?

Already been done. The thread is here

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2469238#post2469238

 

[GameTheory]

LE has cleared ZG. That is good. Means they haven't found anything yet. One point I do have to question though is that there are how many ZG's in Fla? Something like 400? And no one has positively identified which of those ZG's were the one that went to the apts. So how is her name being connected to the case preventing her from getting a job??

Also noted that LE has said that the GP's are cooperating.

yes but LE showed Casey ALL Zenaidas in their DAVID system, including the women identified by the press, and Casey did not identify any of those women as the nanny.

 

[SewingDeb]

LE has cleared ZG. That is good. Means they haven't found anything yet. One point I do have to question though is that there are how many ZG's in Fla? Something like 400? And no one has positively identified which of those ZG's were the one that went to the apts. So how is her name being connected to the case preventing her from getting a job??

Also noted that LE has said that the GP's are cooperating.

The Zenaida who went to the Sawgrass Apartments in June told a reporter she has been interviewed by LE several times.

She says no one wants to hire a suspected kidnapper.

 

[Zuckerschnecke]

There has to be a way that Casey saw ZGs name on the card. Although I don't think ZG was involved, Casey was able to come up with that name. Could Casey have been looking for an apartment there the same day? She needed a place to live.

I took a short nap and you all are off and running....I don't think I've ever seen a Forum like this.

So if the police verifed the ZG who saw the apartment, then can we assume that the disconnected number this ZG wrote on the card was a number she had had or gave or the manager wrote down wrong and it was close to her real number, something. The fact that it was a disconnected or non-existant number bothers me.

 

[UCFAlumni2002]

Zuckerschnecke- basically the "disconnected" number is because it is nonexistant... hate to say it but ZANNY does not exist ...

 

[Starr58]

Already been done. The thread is here

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2469238#post2469238

Many thanks Lady bass!!!:blowkiss:

 

[Patty G]

The dates on this search warrant is not correct. Read page 2 , it says dated the 6th day of February 2008.

Under Return of Search Warrant

It says Recieved the search warrant of the 5th of July and executed the same on the 6th of July

 

[TravelingBug]

I realize this is from the search warrant, but I think it's relevant to the general discussion since it's been speculated upon for awhile...

Based on the search warrant it seems ONLY Cindy and Caylee went to Cindy's dad on Father's Day, thus the video isn't omitting George, Casey, or Lee. It seems they really were not there.

 

[TripleA]

Common mistakes in legal offices I am afraid. I have seen tons of legal documents that are misdated.

 

[lilacwine]

CNN Headline news has some stuff... they're going to go over the search warrant and they said that the day she said she got the call from Zenaida there were only 2 calls in .. one from Tony and one from (I think) they said Kyle

 

[shannon718]

yes but LE showed Casey ALL Zenaidas in their DAVID system, including the women identified by the press, and Casey did not identify any of those women as the nanny.

Can we remember one thing???????

Of course Casey would not identify the picture of the ZG at Sawgrass to LE. What then?

LE finds ZG and she doesn't recognize Casey or Caylee....Casey is not that stupid. she was protecting her lie....she kept saying look in Brooklyn, NJ, Miami. She stole that womans name from Sawgrass somehow.

By the way has anyone ever heard her use the name Zenaida before Caylee's disapperance or was it just always.......

Zanny.