Caylee Anthony 2 year old General Discussion #69

[wishingtree]

you make a good point. i will never forget cindy's 911 call, the one where she is sobbing about her granddaughter. regardless if she knew what she was getting into when she picked up the phone that day, she was clearly distraught over what transpired. and it makes me so angry that casey can sit there in silence and watch her parents fall apart. and even worse, be angry that they arent more concerned about her (ie the "all they care about is finding caylee" line of brilliance)...

Well said!! :clapping:

 

[shannon718]

Right, we did work on the drowning theory and I think Casey would be in a lot better position if she came clean if thats what happened. Alot better than she murdered her child and hid the body.

I wish everyone would take Casey's mental status to the thread intended for that. The chatter here is boring on that subject and isn't helpful in finding what happened to Caylee. Please take that chatter off this thread. Its boring to alot of us and it is alot to wade thru looking for something on topic of Caylee.

Unfortunately I still think she hid and moved the body. Too much evidence in the trunk, the shovel, the dog hits around the pool area etc. Just kills me to think about it. That poor little baby.

 

[ketel0ne]

Theory Suggests Caylee Anthony Drowned In Family Pool

POSTED: 4:47 pm EDT August 8, 2008
UPDATED: 5:21 pm EDT August 8, 2008


ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Eyewitness News got details Friday of a working theory held by investigators that little Caylee may have drowned in the family swimming pool. A source close to the investigation revealed only to Channel 9 a working theory of the crime involving Caylee drowning and what may have happened next.

The source said some investigators believe a flurry of phone calls from Casey to her parents on June 16 could be an indication that whatever happened to Caylee happened that day. On that day, Casey and Caylee were last seen together by Caylee's grandfather George at the Anthony family home where they lived.


www.wftv.com

And why didn't they answer those calls, and when they did next talked to Casey were they then getting the Tampa job story?

 

[kathyn2]

I also think Casey hid and moved the body which was her undoing. Its too bad no one answered the phone in that flurry of calls she made. Maybe this case would have turned out differently had her parents answered the phone.

 

[Benji]

IMO, We can't discuss this issue apart from the reason we are all here--a missing child and her possible murder. And your questions don't bother me but, again, if we are talking about Casey's behavior it does not make sense, IMO, to compartmentalize it and separate it by only addressing the lies but not the potential homicide--unless you are saying she is a liar and lacks empathy but is innocent w/ regard to Caylee's disappearance and possible death? Is that what you are saying?

No, that is not what I'm saying. As I said before, it is something that I don't completely understand, and because I have seen so many people say basically that she can't help herself, it brought me to the question that if that is true, then how can she be held responsible for her behavior. I understand things better when the explanation can be brought down to the very brass tacks and I can get all of my questions about them answered. I appreciate all who have stated their opinions in a respectful and informative manner, but to be attacked (and I'm not accusing YOU of doing this, but it has been done) for asking a question is not appreciated!

One other thing. If there is a separate thread for every aspect of this case, and no one is allowed to ask a question on the general debate thread, then what is the general debate thread here for? Just curious.

 

[kathyn2]

I would also like to know the parents and Lee's reasons for not answering their phones or calling back or if Casey left any messages to them? I wonder if LE has asked any of them if Casey left them a message? Or if LE has examined the parents cell phones?

 

[shannon718]

I also think Casey hid and moved the body which was her undoing. Its too bad no one answered the phone in that flurry of calls she made. Maybe this case would have turned out differently had her parents answered the phone.

She should have just called 911. Panic or no panic. So upsetting.

 

[Shutterfly]

IF Caylee drowned accidently or otherwise....then what was the shovel for if Casey only had it for an hour? Did she INTEND to bury the poor child in the yard in a panic and then realized she'd never get the hole dug alone..or that burying her there was a dumb idea, so instead she backed the car up to the garage and put her in the trunk...getting the gas cans along the way?

 

[kathyn2]

If there is already a thread for certain subjects then you are suppose to use that thread. The general thread is for general chatter and breaking news.
At least thats my opinion.

No, that is not what I'm saying. As I said before, it is something that I don't completely understand, and because I have seen so many people say basically that she can't help herself, it brought me to the question that if that is true, then how can she be held responsible for her behavior. I understand things better when the explanation can be brought down to the very brass tacks and I can get all of my questions about them answered. I appreciate all who have stated their opinions in a respectful and informative manner, but to be attacked (and I'm not accusing YOU of doing this, but it has been done) for asking a question is not appreciated!

One other thing. If there is a separate thread for every aspect of this case, and no one is allowed to ask a question on the general debate thread, then what is the general debate thread here for? Just curious.

 

[murdershewrote]

re the flurry of calls that Mark Fuhrman reported on. If she made all these calls (which I believe she did), then why didn't Cindy call her back. These calls would record on Cindy's cell as missed calls, right? So if Cindy got 5 or 6 or however many calls right in a row, why didn't she call her right back?

 

[absolut_alexis]

One other thing. If there is a separate thread for every aspect of this case, and no one is allowed to ask a question on the general debate thread, then what is the general debate thread here for? Just curious.

It is a general discussion thread.

 

[kathyn2]

She might have borrowed the shovel to pry open the shed to get the gas. Perhaps she didn't have much gas and no money and wanted to hide the body somewhere away from the home.

IF Caylee drowned accidently or otherwise....then what was the shovel for if Casey only had it for an hour? Did she INTEND to bury the poor child in the yard in a panic and then realized she'd never get the hole dug alone..or that burying her there was a dumb idea, so instead she backed the car up to the garage and put her in the trunk...getting the gas cans along the way?

 

[LI_Mom]

I read that post too. I have to admit I was surprised by it. My fiance is a professional in the tech business and knows a lot about hacker sites and can find crazy things online that I had no idea existed, but even he was dumbfounded last night when I asked him about the fake domain names for the email addresses. Casey must have really known a lot about little "tricks" available on the internet which I find interesting.

We really can't guess about the emails until we know for sure that Casey didn't write them herself.... she could have made up ANY return addresses she wanted to & then send the to this email account where Lee read them.

I bet she had a LOT of email accounts.... not just the one her family knew/knows about.

 

[absolut_alexis]

I wonder about this, too. Maybe she was driving or her phone was on silent or something.

re the flurry of calls that Mark Fuhrman reported on. If she made all these calls (which I believe she did), then why didn't Cindy call her back. These calls would record on Cindy's cell as missed calls, right? So if Cindy got 5 or 6 or however many calls right in a row, why didn't she call her right back?

 

[shannon718]

I would also like to know the parents and Lee's reasons for not answering their phones or calling back or if Casey left any messages to them? I wonder if LE has asked any of them if Casey left them a message? Or if LE has examined the parents cell phones?

Considering the time of day, I tend to believe they were all at work and weren't neccessarily paying attention to their phones incessant or not.. I don't really answer my phone while I'm working, sometimes I don't even have it right near me. Maybe she tried to call one of them at work hence the "business" number.

Im not sure there was a serious reason as to why they didn't answer her calls.

 

[passin_through]

but they say the shovel was borrowed the 18th and the shed was broken into sometime between the 22nd and 24th. no?

 

[Shutterfly]

She might have borrowed the shovel to pry open the shed to get the gas. Perhaps she didn't have much gas and no money and wanted to hide the body somewhere away from the home.

good point Kathryn...didn't occur to me she'd use the shovel to pry open the door...don't I feel stoopid now...duh.

 

[Chica]

I also think Casey hid and moved the body which was her undoing. Its too bad no one answered the phone in that flurry of calls she made. Maybe this case would have turned out differently had her parents answered the phone.

I totally agree with you, however, I don't in ANY way blame them for not answering their phones. I think it is a possibility that they were *finally* starting to practice some 'tough love' where Casey is concerned. I think they may have finally reached their limit as far as Casey's lying and stealing. Unfortunately, it is human nature that they will feel guilty...I just hope they can get come help so they realize it is NOT their fault, but Casey's and Casey's alone.

 

[kathyn2]

I wonder what Casey's demeanor was when she borrowed the shovel? Didn't she borrow it a couple of days later? I think she hid the body in the trunk til the 18th because she didn't know what to do and had to come up with a story. She may have brought the body to the house to do something with it and thats why the dogs smelled something in the yard. Then she realized what a futile effort it would be to dig a hole big enough for the body so she abandoned that idea. I believe she also used the shovel to open the shed and get the gas so she could drive the body elsewhere and hide it. Thats why they need an organization like TES to do a search for the body.

 

[LI_Mom]

re the flurry of calls that Mark Fuhrman reported on. If she made all these calls (which I believe she did), then why didn't Cindy call her back. These calls would record on Cindy's cell as missed calls, right? So if Cindy got 5 or 6 or however many calls right in a row, why didn't she call her right back?

Something Cindy said bothers me....

(paraphrasing)

Casey always called me if something was wrong w/ Caylee... ('if she was pulling on her ear' was one example she gave) then why didn't she call me if Caylee had an accident? If something was wrong, she would have called me.



But we know that Casey DID call her mother, father AND brother that afternoon & NOBODY picked up their phone. And we know she tried calling again a couple of hours later!

The reason this bothers me.... Cindy HAD to have known about the calls that WE knew about. This 'excuse' she's making does NOTHING to make Casey look any more innocent.... it really only helps build a case AGAINST Casey.

Is Cindy passive-aggressive or just dumb?? I don't get her.