Caylee Anthony 2 year old General Discussion #69

[christine2448]

Thank you. I've been yelled at by so many people that I don't know who has the authority and who doesn't.

Who yelled at you? The mods/admin..I have posted the View Forum Leaders a few times today..just FYI.

We sometimes will post BOLD and IN RED to get your attention....it is busy right now, if when we need your attention, we do that. We are doing it for you, and all posters. Trying to keep things running smoothly.

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[DianeB]

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One other thing....the parents always thought that Casey went off to work every day but Casey didn't work. I bet after her parents left she availed herself of the house and pool while they didn't know she was around. She wouldn't have anywhere else to spend her days.

I always thought the same thing. The time frame fits. George left for work....Casey said she was "going" to work, she leaves and comes back. The flurry of phone calls start at around 2:30 or 3. right after George left.

This is an interesting point.

We’ve asked and theorized about where Casey went every day when she was dropping Caylee off with the ‘nanny’.

Maybe she went to hang out with friends, to the mall, to the parks, wherever – until dad went to work, and then simply went home.

In order to really pursue this possibility, we’d need to know:
1. How long/how often George was unemployed (I’m presuming that Cindy has worked a day shift since Caylee’s birth)
2. What time Casey ‘went to work’ every day
3. Whether Caylee had ever spoken about a babysitter, in the short amount of time she’s been able to speak

 

[jeepgirlva]

I can't wrap my brain around this idea that her parents thought she was working everyday. Was George working ? If not didn't he notice Casey home?

 

[chrisg]

Why? Do you think they intentionally did not answer the phones because they some how knew that Casey was calling to say she'd allowed something awful to happen to Caylee? That's a bit farfetched, IMO.

For all we know, they may have intentionally ignored Casey's calls. Maybe she had a habit of calling them for money or maybe they were at work and tired of being pestered by her. I don't see how not anwering a call makes them suspect in any way.

I'm not interested in the sense that I feel it makes them complicit. I am interested in when they would say they next spoke to Casey and what the conversation was about.

I also suspect that they may have been purposefully ignoring her calls and--unless it was a common occurence that they ignored her (which it may very well have been based upon your reasoning)--am wondering if it would hint at (then) recent turmoil between Casey and her parents which may speak to motive on Casey's part--in the sense that maybe there was a huge blow up which triggered something homicidal.

This is not my rock solid theory. Just something I'm wondering about.

 

[kidz110]

OK, perhaps this has been discussed. If so, please just point me in the right direction, but I find it sooo strange that ZG lost her ID and this ZG http://forums.brevardcountymoms.com/viewtopic.php?p=27729&highlight=#27729 also had her ID compromised and one of them ended up at Sawgrass. I mean--what are the odds of that?
Sorry if this was off topic, but the "Nanny" thread is closed. Has anyone else seen this blog?

 

[TXRN]

i was just (perhaps, longingly?) glanced over pictures from college to compare facial expressions. it could just be casey's drunk look. the glazed over, totally out of it, buzzed out look from one too many shots...

Probably all of the above, huh? I am pretty intuitive and observant about reading peoples emotions, I know, I know, yeah, right...but I just keep seeing those shots in the blue dress, AFTER Caylee was last seen, and she looks frightened, stiff, joyless, dead....

I'm signing off, to all,... be nice...

 

[Chilly Willy]

I'm not convinced that Casey is a big drug user because when she was put in jail, she didn't seem to be crashing from not being able to have drugs there. Don't you think that if she was a user that there would have been signs of it during the first couple weeks at least?

I agree. While she may have been a recreational drug user, there's no evidence that she was addicted or even a regular user. However, if she were undergoing treatment for withdrawal in jail it's not likely that such information would be released to the public.

 

[MagnoliaMom]

Hey, on my forum I suggest posters use the little exclamation "report a post" button to let the Mods and Admins know about offensive posts. That way you don't get caught up in further drama. The alert button is a red triangle with the ! in the middle of it in the upper right hand corner of the post you found offensive. You can leave a note to the powers that be about the post after you click the alert.

Hope that helps.

helps me! i hope i haven't reported any of y'all because i do so like to click things. i think i've clicked it several times :angel:

 

[chrisg]

I can't wrap my brain around this idea that her parents thought she was working everyday. Was George working ? If not didn't he notice Casey home?

George has a security job, I believe, in which he left in the mid-afternoon for work.

 

[Hisimage]

I'm not convinced that Casey is a big drug user because when she was put in jail, she didn't seem to be crashing from not being able to have drugs there. Don't you think that if she was a user that there would have been signs of it during the first couple weeks at least?

This is just what I was thinking. How shes been doing without her drugs.
I do think though at the time Caylee went missing she was a little out of it.

 

[shannon718]

This is an interesting point.

We’ve asked and theorized about where Casey went every day when she was dropping Caylee off with the ‘nanny’.

Maybe she went to hang out with friends, to the mall, to the parks, wherever – until dad went to work, and then simply went home.

In order to really pursue this possibility, we’d need to know:
1. How long/how often George was unemployed (I’m presuming that Cindy has worked a day shift since Caylee’s birth)
2. What time Casey ‘went to work’ every day
3. Whether Caylee had ever spoken about a babysitter, in the short amount of time she’s been able to speak

Lets see
I don't know how long George was unemployed . We do know that Lee made the myspace comment about buying him the "how to get a job for dummies"so that insinuates the obvious.

2. We do know that Georges new job literally started the week that Casey go arrested.

3. Im sure LE knows whether or not Caylee ever mentioned Zanny in front of anyone other than Casey. She turns three tomorrow so she has been talking up a storm for quite a while. Def enough to refer to anyone she knew.

4. The other thing I find very interesting and unexplored is this:

Did anyone ever hear Casey call Z anything other than "Zanny" Cindy referred to her only as "Zanny in the 911 call when she was talking to George.

Reason being is that I think "Zenaida" was born only on June 17th after whatever info Casey gleaned from Sawgrass. I believe "Zanny" became "Zenaida" strictly after that. If we could find that out it would be very very telling.

 

[bluedevil21]

In my opinion *jose baez needs to be checked out regarding this child,

in my opinion* she cannot afford him and there is a connection to local money through (linked in) in my opinion and research.

All options would lead you to the right choice !

baez could be on a retainer. meaning, only if casey is found not guilty would he be paid anything. but at the same time, i find that even hard to believe. he is a sole practitioner, so i doubt he is rolling in cash flow or cases, otherwise he would hire associate lawyers to help him. he also hasn't done much investigating on his own. he hasn't provided any experts or submitted any affidavits from any paid sources. he may have hired a PI, but nothing substantial has been found thus far. he may also be paid by a third party - that is totally legal. our less fortunate clients have friends and relatives pay for their cases all of the time.

but when i think of the duke lacrosse case and how much the defense attorneys put out up front for their own investigation (granted, they were financed by the players' millionaire parents), there is no comparison...

 

[DianeB]

Excellent point, it's easy to say "You should be searching", but where does one begin? That's my thought when I see the grandparents criticized for not being out searching. Where should they start? They have no more clue where Caylee is than anyone else does.

That's just it. They don't know where to search, either.

I think the family has always taken the tactic that they want Caylee's face out there in the media in case anyone sees her - or maybe to communicate with the person they believe has her.

If searching was something they thought would be productive, they could have enlisted the public's help in organizing search parties, something they have avoided doing.

 

[LI_Mom]

Excellent point, it's easy to say "You should be searching", but where does one begin? That's my thought when I see the grandparents criticized for not being out searching. Where should they start? They have no more clue where Caylee is than anyone else does.

If the GPs simply picked one location every day, at least they'd be doing SOMETHING & I'm sure they would have no trouble getting concerned volunteers to join them.

To simply lash out that nobody ELSE is doing what you can be doing when it's YOUR grandchild who is missing is pretty rude & not very smart.


Truly, I think they are terrified that they might FIND Caylee's body (not that I can blame them for that for one second) & are frantic for someone else to find her so they can move on to the next stages.

 

[Benji]

I agree. While she may have been a recreational drug user, there's no evidence that she was addicted or even a regular user. However, if she were undergoing treatment for withdrawal in jail it's not likely that such information would be released to the public.

Wouldn't there have been physical signs though, such as swollen eyes, nervousness etc.? And it would have shown when she had visitors and phone calls that were shown on tv, don't you think?

 

[Shutterfly]

I can't wrap my brain around this idea that her parents thought she was working everyday. Was George working ? If not didn't he notice Casey home?

I can't seem to wrap my head around ANY of this. It's just mind boggling. And as the mother of a young child, one four months younger than Caylee, I just cannot imagine my child dissappearing, being kidnapped, or otherwise being "gone" and I not be moving mountains and contacting LE from here to eternity. I'd be in the streets with a bullhorn. And my own mother...if HER grandchild simply vanished and I didn't have some pretty credible explanation as to why...she'd send me back where I came from. No doubt in my mind. I'd be praying for LE to come and get me...rather than face MY mother.

 

[Hisimage]

That's just it. They don't know where to search, either.

I think the family has always taken the tactic that they want Caylee's face out there in the media in case anyone sees her - or maybe to communicate with the person they believe has her.

If searching was something they thought would be productive, they could have enlisted the public's help in organizing search parties, something they have avoided doing.

You know I keep thinking whenever my girls go to a movie or a friends if they don't call me when we've said they should I begin to panic. I don't send out a search party, but inside I start to think "what if....."

I think the parents may have been used to Caseys way of not calling for a couple days or so. That does not excuse Caseys slow reaction to not knowing where Caylee is.

 

[Diamond]

"What it is going to take (to find Caylee) is for more people to be looking and we don't feel that is happening," Baez said. "We feel that people have already written Casey off as having done something terrible and that is not the case. There is no evidence of that. There hasn't been any evidence presented of that. It is quite disturbing. But until you find this missing child, she is missing. We are getting very frustrated that no one is out there looking for her."

Here's what it's going to take...the mother talking. And, truthfully.

If her daughter is now in danger (as she hinted/stated), it might also be a really good time.

What is Casey's excuse NOW...?

:liar:

 

[TripleA]

George has a security job, I believe, in which he left in the mid-afternoon for work.

How did he leave for work at 3pm on that Tuesday July 16th when Cindy claims that they brought the car home at 3-4 pm?

 

[TXRN]

I'm not convinced that Casey is a big drug user because when she was put in jail, she didn't seem to be crashing from not being able to have drugs there. Don't you think that if she was a user that there would have been signs of it during the first couple weeks at least?

Oh...I got dragged in again....huge question you raised.

With what I've seen, depending on what drugs are in the individuals' system, the withdrawal or effects of not having the substance can create a wide range of effects. From agitation, personality changes, aggression, to mild depression, to physical cravings and sensations that are painful, to psychosis, severe debilitating exhaustion, etc, etc....if she only used occasionally in the clubs and that use escalated in recent weeks/days, etc...and it was cocaine, withdrawals wouldn't be something that we would see in the general public. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it was also my understanding that no one saw her for a week. That's ample time to become normalized to a large extent, including heroin, which is not suspect in my opinion, and methamphetamine. I would more suspect X or coke. Okay...just my opinion...