Caylee Anthony 3 year old General discussion #91

[moxiecrimefighter]

Mother maintains daughter's innocent....http://www.necn.com/category/32/15576

You've got to be freaking kidding me. Is this from today after they met with Casey?

 

[QuickAttack]

Hi, y'all.

Can someone give me a quick run-down on what's going on right now?

Is Cindy in visitation with Casey??

Oh, and Good afternoon!

 

[impatientredhead]

Mother maintains daughter's innocent....http://www.necn.com/category/32/15576

I know it is not a popular opinion, but I do not find her saying that she believes her daughter to be that odd. They do not have a body yet. They have a daughter sticking her (yes I know total BS) story. No one is going to be jumping up and down to say yes, I have given up all hope and think this is a search for a cadaver at this point. Lets move on to next phase of my life where I have a no granddaughter and start the multi year process of a murder trial.

They are clinging to that 1 in a million chance that Casey really did get herself in trouble and someone has Casey with them. I think it is sad and we are watching the destruction of a family and an ongoing nervous breakdown. Saying yes, clearly Casey is a sociopathic killer and we will never see Caylee again isn't something they are ready to do. They don't have to do it on our schedule and if we were really that tired of them we could stop hanging on every word that come out of their mouths. IMHO

 

[Blondieskatz]

Mother maintains daughter's innocent....http://www.necn.com/category/32/15576

Was this interview today? What is wrong with these people? Can they not add 2+2? Casey's not talking, she's holding out so there will be nothing left of that baby's body. Didn't they see Clint saying last night that Casey said Caylee was at home during the time she was kidnapped. And why do they need a "covert operation" once they figure out who has Caylee when GA says the kidnappers are being watched? :waitasec:

They need someone to bring them into reality and fast!

 

[shannon718]

Do we actually know what time she washed the clothes?
Seems to me it was BEFORE the first 911 cal was made and before she found Casey. That's the impression I get anyway. Yes, she was distraught at Caylee being "taken away", not about her "missing".
Yes she washed the clothes because they "smelled like the car", but as I have said, I believe this was before she KNEW Caylee was missing and before she talked to Casey. JMO

I don't know what time she washed them...just seems to me that if I haven't seen my grandaughter in a months time than I'm not washing any pants that I have found in my daughters abandoned car that wreaks of a dead body.

Its that simple. IMO

 

[Spyglass]

Not if you figure -

mid-afternoon:
George and Cindy pick up the Sunfire from the impound lot, drive home

mid-afternoon:
Casey picks up Amy from the airport in Amy's car, Amy drops her off at Tony's and goes home to Ricardo's house.

late-afternoon:
Casey sends cheerful facebook msg to Amy, who is probably at that moment realizing that her checks are missing and bank account cleaned out. Thanks, Casey!

late-afternoon:
George and Cindy search the Sunfire looking for clues to Casey/Caylee whereabouts. Probably a frantic search since they both smelled decomp but didn't know whose. They find a copy of Amy's resume.

late-afternoon/early evening:
Cindy calls Amy. Amy tells Cindy she knows where Casey is. Cindy drives to Ricardo's to pick up Amy. She directs Cindy to Tony's. Cindy goes into apt and drags Casey out.

early evening:
Cindy drives Amy back to Ricardo's, drives around with Casey trying to get her to give up Caylee's whereabouts, finally drives to substation around 7pm.

Substation closed, first call to 911. Jurisdiction unknown, so she drives home with Casey and the family spend an hour grilling her before the second 911 call is made.

I was responding to Puffster's post that Casey, Cindy, and George were at home at 4 pm. I disagreed with that opinion. There is no discrepancy between what I said and what you are saying. You and I both agree that Casey, Cindy, and George were NOT at home at 4 pm, based on the info we have been given.

 

[ckwood32]

Cindy is really delusional.

 

[LaLaw2000]

Man! Is everyone else having a hard time with the board????

I am! Two times I have not been able to access the board because the server was too busy.

I had written a long post and lost it. No problem, tho, because it was just more of my opinion that before this is over and done, IMO, Grandpa George will be arrested for Accessory After the Fact. I think he cleaned out the trunk of the car, disposed of Caylee's body, and advised casey where to park the car and to leave one of her purses on the seat. IMO and my speculation. Casey really may not know where Grandpa took or placed Caylee's body. That just might be the ONE and ONLY truth Casey has told, IMO.

And sure, Cindy had to interrupt Casey on the phone from jail when she asked Cindy, "You don't know what my involvement is in stuff?"

I do not mean to offend anyone with my opinions. I have stated much the same as this several times, and very early on.

I would give anything if Caylee were alive, but I do not believe for a moment that she is.

 

[SelmaClue]

I have been thinking about something for the last couple of minutes. During Cindy's last 911 call when she mentions the "car smells like a dead body", Casey was standing right there. I wonder what she thought of that statement? If she knew Caylee was dead in there at some point, wouldn't that have made her VERY nervous???

This is a good point and question, Hailiejade. My thoughts on it: Casey is programmed to know that her mother will always buy her lies. I believe this is what Cindy's taught Casey, based on results. As has been mentioned before here in other threads, Casey has never seen any consequences for telling lies before, which is likely why she continues to lie. She has no incentive to be nervous. She's a princess. It's a theory.

 

[karenmamo]

You've got to be freaking kidding me. Is this from today after they met with Casey?

No--notice the shirt. This is old, although the site it was on gave today's date.

 

[Leila]

It needed to be there to explain the smell.

Was it ever really in the trunk, or even in the backseat, or did it spend most of its afterlife in the Anthony's trash can?

Who knows?

Possibly a gas chromatograph-mass spectrometer.

One of our own posters conducted the pizza test, leaving a few slices of leftover pizza in a car trunk for a week or so in the hot heat of Alabama, which is close to the same weather conditions as Florida. In that experiment the pizza dried out and the was only a faint pizza odor.

Then a local Orlando television news station took the challange and left a pizza in a car trunk for a period of time. They showed the results and again, the pizza was dried out like shoe leather with a faint pizza odor.

I noted that after the local Orlando news station's experiment, there's been no further mention of "rotton pizza."

 

[liltigress]

Fox reporting that they just sat down with OCSO and was confirmed again that at this point it is still nothing more than a missing persons case.

 

[shannon718]

Do we actually know what time she washed the clothes?
Seems to me it was BEFORE the first 911 cal was made and before she found Casey. That's the impression I get anyway. Yes, she was distraught at Caylee being "taken away", not about her "missing".
Yes she washed the clothes because they "smelled like the car", but as I have said, I believe this was before she KNEW Caylee was missing and before she talked to Casey. JMO

I don't know what time she washed them...just seems to me that if I haven't seen my grandaughter in a months time than I'm not washing any pants that I have found in my daughters abandoned car that wreaks of a dead body.

I also know that if I was interested in helping the police find my grandaughter I would tell them IMMEDIATELY that i washed those pants and not lie about it. Cindy told LE on August 4th that she laundered those pants. A full 19 days into the investigation of Caylee's disappearance. She then LIED about it to the media stating that she told the officers on the day that she called 911. It is clearly stated in the search warrant that she told detectives on August 4th. IMO these actions are suspicious and not those of a person interested in telling the truth.

Its that simple. IMO

 

[shannon718]

Fox reporting that they just sat down with OCSO and was confirmed again that at this point it is still nothing more than a missing persons case.

They need the forensics back....then this case will change or remain the same. I say it will change and Casey will be charged. imo

 

[Mendara]

Puffster, after picking up the car it was driven home. Cindy found Casey by taking a phone number off a resume of Amy's that was left in the car. She called Amy and Amy took her to Casey. So George had already been home with the car much earlier (prior to Cindy going to get Casey) when he walked in on the third 911 call. Cindy knew how the car smelled before she made the first 911 call...even before she picked up Casey.

yes and she put the puzzle together, missing granddaughter + Lying Daughter + Smell of death in car + no babysitter + no last knwon location + daughter waiting 31 days to report child missing = possible dead granddaughter.

and yet she has now retracted and is talkigna bout covert operations to save Caylee from kidnappers. The big question is why?

 

[liltigress]

They need the forensics back....then this case will change or remain the same. I say it will change and Casey will be charged. imo

I have no doubt about that. But I do think even if Casey is presented with solid evidence and proof that she did this, she will still deny it to the end.

 

[Marina2]

Do we actually know what time she washed the clothes?
Seems to me it was BEFORE the first 911 cal was made and before she found Casey. That's the impression I get anyway. Yes, she was distraught at Caylee being "taken away", not about her "missing".
Yes she washed the clothes because they "smelled like the car", but as I have said, I believe this was before she KNEW Caylee was missing and before she talked to Casey. JMO

From the time she got Casey to the time of the third 911 call she didn't have the chance to wash them. So it had to be before the first call to the police station or after the last call to 911. I don't think she would have washed them before finding Casey because she wouldn't have known if either one of them were alive and would have wanted to preserve evidence. I dont think she would have washed them after talking to Amy; she probably just flew out the door to go and find Casey. So, to me, that only leaves the time after the last 911 call. But, of course, this is just my opinion. I also feel that Casey told them much more after that last 911 call than Caylee was kidnapped by Zanny.

 

[SelmaClue]

Mother maintains daughter's innocent....http://www.necn.com/category/32/15576

Is this a Freudian slip, or did the media misquote:

Cindy Anthony: "Even as innocently as we try to be careful in what we might say that could tip someone off, that might think oh my gosh, we gotta do something to Caylee, our whole focus is on protecting my granddaughter. And Casey's going to protect her to the very end and that's the whole reason she's sitting where she's sitting is because she's protecting Caylee's safety. And I believe that. If she knew where Caylee was at, believe me, we'd have an army going in there. Everybody's volunteered to go find her once we, I mean go get her, once we have the location. So we just have to be patient with the investigation



ETA: I wasn't able to view the video. My 'puter doesn't like that website, I guess and I can't reboot at the moment. Did I misunderstand the context of this statement from Cindy??

 

[Mendara]

Do we actually know what time she washed the clothes?
Seems to me it was BEFORE the first 911 cal was made and before she found Casey. That's the impression I get anyway. Yes, she was distraught at Caylee being "taken away", not about her "missing".
Yes she washed the clothes because they "smelled like the car", but as I have said, I believe this was before she KNEW Caylee was missing and before she talked to Casey. JMO

Who the flying fletcher WASHES CLOTHES WHEN THEIR GRANDDAUGHTER IS MISSING POSSIBLY KIDNAPPED!!! WHO????

I don't even wash clothes when my favorite show is on tv. THIS STINKS.

 

[wishingtree]

Wow, we've all been following this whirling dervish of confusing info for so long that two very good point were made on the first page of this thread alone - one that I had forgotten about and one that I hadn't put together:

From DianeB: (respectfully snipped)
Remember, George pulled one of the deputies aside that evening and told him or her that he believed his daughter was withholding information.

From Marina2: (respectfully snipped) Cindy found Casey by taking a phone number off a resume of Amy's that was left in the car. She called Amy and Amy took her to Casey. So George had already been home with the car much earlier (prior to Cindy going to get Casey) when he walked in on the third 911 call. Cindy knew how the car smelled before she made the first 911 call...even before she picked up Casey.

It seems like GP tried to do the right thing the night the 911 was called, so it seems to me he suspected then that Caylee was likely not alive. Whether he was a homicide cop or not, every police officer I know (granted I live in a big city) has dealt with dead bodies and KNOW the smell is unlike any other. This also would have been before the extent of Casey's lies about working at Universal, the "nanny", etc. had been revealed, but he knew something was amiss before that info came out. So I think then he may have thought the worst. I wonder if he pretends to go along with Casey's story so she won't shut them out since she was so angry with them in the first phone call where she argued with Cindy about her "cameo", or if he is actually going through the stages of grief as mentioned before and is back and forth between denial and anger.

Also, somehow I failed to put 2 and 2 together regarding the fact that Cindy had to have smelled the dead body smell long before the first 911 call since she got Amy's number from the car. (stupid me! :doh: ) That really disturbs me in a whole new way - and I've already been highly disturbed about this for weeks now. I don't understand why the dead body smell didn't cause Cindy's voice to be panicked in the first 911 call like it was in the third. I know she says that by the 3rd call she overheard Casey tell Lee that Caylee had been kidnapped, but it seems the smell in that car would have immediately prompted panic. Most nurses I know also could recognize the smell of death, even if they don't work with it daily because most are exposed to it during their schooling. I'm sorry this is so long - I just feel like an idiot for not putting these things together sooner! Also, Hailiejade makes an excellent point about Casey hearing Cindy talk about the dead body smell in the 911 call. I can only imagine that she went into panic mode realizing that LE was coming and they would realize this too, so she started frantically trying to make up stories to cover herself. Perhaps that is when she started changing the names in her address book (whether it was on her phone or not) that had Juliette and other's names listed with her neighbor's phone numbers. I need to stop - too much is swirling in my mind right now and so much has been already. Can't believe I missed these basics and how much more weight they add to what I've already sadly suspected. Sorry for the very long post! If I need to delete it, please tell me and I will.

P.S. Sorry if this was already discussed - I had to pick up a phone call 15 minutes ago and didn't realize my post didn't go through.