Caylee Anthony 3 year old General discussion #91

[Chezhire]

Man! Is everyone else having a hard time with the board????

got a lof of lurkers, + tons members signed in...really slowing us down???

 

[Girlrilla]

Interesting blog by David Lohr - Crime Writer for Investigative Discovery

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/08/psychic-seeking.html#more

I find it interesting that he says NO psychic has ever led police to a body or a missing person. Is that true? I thought Gale St. John claimed she actually has found bodies before, but isn't always successful.

 

[Chezhire]

Hi, y'all.

Can someone give me a quick run-down on what's going on right now?

Is Cindy in visitation with Casey??

Oh, and Good afternoon!

Good afternoon to you, too. I managed to stay offline today until now...

 

[Chezhire]

I was responding to Puffster's post that Casey, Cindy, and George were at home at 4 pm. I disagreed with that opinion. There is no discrepancy between what I said and what you are saying. You and I both agree that Casey, Cindy, and George were NOT at home at 4 pm, based on the info we have been given.

Agreed - we're all on the same page.

 

[DianeB]

But Diane:

As I posted on the last page:

I don't know what time she washed them...just seems to me that if I haven't seen my grandaughter in a months time than I'm not washing any pants that I have found in my daughters abandoned car that wreaks of a dead body.

I also know that if I was interested in helping the police find my grandaughter I would tell them IMMEDIATELY that i washed those pants and not lie about it. Cindy told LE on August 4th that she laundered those pants. A full 19 days into the investigation of Caylee's disappearance. She then LIED about it to the media stating that she told the officers on the day that she called 911. It is clearly stated in the search warrant that she told detectives on August 4th. IMO these actions are suspicious and not those of a person interested in telling the truth.

Its that simple. IMO
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I do think this is when she started to cover up evidence. It just doesn't sit right with me that she lied....yet again.

I'm with you on the coverup.

She stated emphatically that she notified the five deputies who responded to her house that she had washed the pants, and that they told her it was unimportant and weren't interested in retrieving them.

The subsequent search warrant completely contradicts this.

I'm willing to give her the cluelessness benefit of the doubt on washing them, but not on fabricating that whole "they weren't interested" fable.

 

[krimekat]

got a lof of lurkers, + tons members signed in...really slowing us down???

Can't the MODs shut it down to only the accepted posters?

 

[SelmaClue]

She meant that the KIDNAPPER would say that to themselves, like they heard the Anthony's say something about a tip they got about them and so NOW THEY HAVE TO KILL CAYLEE because of what they heard them say on tv.

but I don't think kidnappers say "OH MY GOSH".

No chit! I mean geez, they've already said the darn kidnapper's NAME. If it's not a made-up name, the Anthonys already have put the child in harm's way.

Oh, what the h3ll am I talkin' about here?!
It's all b.s. and most of us agree that it's all b.s.

Poor little baby.

 

[tx_Dot]

Do we actually know what time she washed the clothes?
Seems to me it was BEFORE the first 911 cal was made and before she found Casey. That's the impression I get anyway. Yes, she was distraught at Caylee being "taken away", not about her "missing".
Yes she washed the clothes because they "smelled like the car", but as I have said, I believe this was before she KNEW Caylee was missing and before she talked to Casey. JMO

Do we know if Cindy worked 7/15, or what time she got off ??

Maybe George had already started the car clean-up by the time she got home ?? (pile of clothes here, pile of papers here...etc.)

*If* I just found my car had been towed weeks ago, my first thought would be to locate my kid that was driving it....(I wonder if one of the GP's phone will show a 'frenzy' of calls looking for Casey on the 15th).

 

[Marina2]

Chezhire, the statement she makes "Life is on hold until tomorrow" also shows that she felt as if she was going to lie and manipulate her way out of this one too. Guess she got fooled. Her life is still on hold.

 

[Girlrilla]

Can't the MODs shut it down to only the accepted posters?

Who are the accepted posters? :waitasec:

You mean force people to log in to view the forum? They could, but no idea if they'd want to do that.

 

[Shutterfly]

Who are the accepted posters? :waitasec:

You mean force people to log in to view the forum? They could, but no idea if they'd want to do that.

At this rate we're going to need a bigger server....again. Poor Tricia, she must be pulling her hair out!

 

[Fandy]

Can't the MODs shut it down to only the accepted posters?

I lurked for 2 weeks before I registered, what about you?

 

[DianeB]

Agreed, plus, remember that during the Myspace posting July 15:

July 15 Casey's facebook post to Amy
Casey Anthony wrote
at 4:02pm on July 15th, 2008
so glad you're home.
i better not see you online.
life is on hold until tomorrow
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(Emphasis added.)
So, it's pretty clear to me that when Casey posted to Amy at 4:02 p.m. she already knew she had a problem and wouldn't be free to play with her friends until the next day...but little did she know that it was the same friend she was posting to, AMY, who led her mama, Cindy, to where she was crashing: Tony's... As it has been stated, if Amy's phone number was located in that car that smelled like there'd been a dead body in it, you can bet Cindy and George knew they had a problem on their hands...and judging by the language Casey used in her post to Amy, seems to me that Casey had already received frantic/pissed phone calls, text &/or voice messages from her parent(s)... and we all know that Cindy showed up soon thereafter to haul her out of Tony's...

You think? I read the "I better not see you online" as Casey having every intention of continuing to be online herself.

 

[wishingtree]

I lurked for 2 weeks before I registered, what about you?

I did because I had a hard time getting registered due to my email address. My fiance and I had never used the email account assigned to us by our service provider, so it took me a little while to track it down so I could get my registration accepted. I was very glad to be able to view the information during that waiting time.

 

[LaLaw2000]

LE has by now enhanced the 911 calls and knows what was being said in the background. It will be interesting if anything of note was said!!

 

[Chezhire]

Wow, we've all been following this whirling dervish of confusing info for so long that two very good point were made on the first page of this thread alone - one that I had forgotten about and one that I hadn't put together:

From DianeB: (respectfully snipped)
Remember, George pulled one of the deputies aside that evening and told him or her that he believed his daughter was withholding information.

From Marina2: (respectfully snipped) Cindy found Casey by taking a phone number off a resume of Amy's that was left in the car. She called Amy and Amy took her to Casey. So George had already been home with the car much earlier (prior to Cindy going to get Casey) when he walked in on the third 911 call. Cindy knew how the car smelled before she made the first 911 call...even before she picked up Casey.

It seems like GP tried to do the right thing the night the 911 was called, so it seems to me he suspected then that Caylee was likely not alive. Whether he was a homicide cop or not, every police officer I know (granted I live in a big city) has dealt with dead bodies and KNOW the smell is unlike any other. This also would have been before the extent of Casey's lies about working at Universal, the "nanny", etc. had been revealed, but he knew something was amiss before that info came out. So I think then he may have thought the worst. I wonder if he pretends to go along with Casey's story so she won't shut them out since she was so angry with them in the first phone call where she argued with Cindy about her "cameo", or if he is actually going through the stages of grief as mentioned before and is back and forth between denial and anger.

Also, somehow I failed to put 2 and 2 together regarding the fact that Cindy had to have smelled the dead body smell long before the first 911 call since she got Amy's number from the car. (stupid me! :doh: ) That really disturbs me in a whole new way - and I've already been highly disturbed about this for weeks now. I don't understand why the dead body smell didn't cause Cindy's voice to be panicked in the first 911 call like it was in the third. I know she says that by the 3rd call she overheard Casey tell Lee that Caylee had been kidnapped, but it seems the smell in that car would have immediately prompted panic. Most nurses I know also could recognize the smell of death, even if they don't work with it daily because most are exposed to it during their schooling. I'm sorry this is so long - I just feel like an idiot for not putting these things together sooner! Also, Hailiejade makes an excellent point about Casey hearing Cindy talk about the dead body smell in the 911 call. I can only imagine that she went into panic mode realizing that LE was coming and they would realize this too, so she started frantically trying to make up stories to cover herself. Perhaps that is when she started changing the names in her address book (whether it was on her phone or not) that had Juliette and other's names listed with her neighbor's phone numbers. I need to stop - too much is swirling in my mind right now and so much has been already. Can't believe I missed these basics and how much more weight they add to what I've already sadly suspected. Sorry for the very long post! If I need to delete it, please tell me and I will.

P.S. Sorry if this was already discussed - I had to pick up a phone call 15 minutes ago and didn't realize my post didn't go through.

no, not stupid you. it's a disturbing case for all of us, that's why we're constantly wracking our brains trying to figure out what happened to that precious little girl. i've been wondering for weeks now HOW Cindy sounded so darn calm in the first 2 911 calls, when she darn well knew, as she put it, "smells like there's been a dead body in there," but doesn't get frantic until the 3 911 call... she knows it isn't casey (because she's trying to wring the truth out of casey) so who else's body but caylee's does she think's been in there??? unless you buy the suggested casey-to-mom-story "i saw something bad, i wasn't supposed to see, they took caylee as a result, blah, blah, blah..."

 

[krimekat]

I lurked for 2 weeks before I registered, what about you?

I was here for the Scott Peterson case; however I became so frustrated with the server issues; i.e., locking up & not allowing my post after being accepted as a poster, I quit using the site. But, I knew they'd be on the ball for this case. MODs, if you have server space issues, please let me know. I have access to a HUGE server farm!!!

 

[Leila]

I'ts a little slow now so, I very much wish that Greta , Nancy or someone would interview the female friends and aquaintances that Casey was around before and after the 16th. The young man on Greta last night kept saying she acted "normal" before and after the three days everyone is looking at now. And I am sure he was being completely truthful ,and no offense to any men anywhere, most men would not pick up on the subtle nuances that most women would. Many times I have seen groups, parties, get togethers, where there was tension between two or more parties, not overt, and most or few males would even be aware and yet it was seen and felt by most women there. Many feel that we are just more attuned to that sort of thing. Perhaps the females would have noticed to a finer degree when she did ,or if she did, act differently. JMH(wish)

I remember that back at the very beginning of this case, Cindy's MySpace page had something on it stating that no one was to speak to the media without going through them. I think that may be one reason why we haven't heard from Casey's friends.

The interview with Clint last night gave us a lot of insight, and I felt he was very up front about his his observations. He didn't want to get into speculation or talk about other people's observations. I agree that interviews with some of Casey's female friends might give some insight into the time after June 15th - Father's Day.

 

[suspicious mind]

OK so I have been thinking about this..according to Casey, she cannot release the details of whomever has Caylee, and why they have her. So she gives the fake info (Zenaida at Sawgrass) to protect Caylee, and that is her excuse as to why she lied. So following that thought, and going on the premise that her parents believe her and her story about kidnappers…then I want to ask why then, are we still looking for the "right" Zenieda (now this is according to many statements, both Cindy and Casey have made. That they have been telling LE all along it is the wrong ZG. So they cannot have it both ways, was it Zenaida, or was it the unknown kidnappers Casey is protecting? If they are saying it was ZG, then Casey's claim she is silent about the details to save Caylee is wrong, because she did give out info, only wrong info.. Does anybody see the logic in this?

 

[krimekat]

You think? I read the "I better not see you online" as Casey having every intention of continuing to be online herself.

I think Casey was just being nice to her "friend" who just arrive back in the USA from a vacation and probably needed to rest. I have been wasting way too much time online the past few weeks -- Thanks, Casey!!! Just let us know where Caylee is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!