Caylee Anthony 3 year old General discussion #99

[olive]

Renea~ It is NEVER a good idea to post personal information of ANY kind on a website which is seen internationally. There are all kinds of people reading this site and others. Please don't do anything to put yourself in harm's way. It is against the rules for anyone to ask you to post your personal information, too. Please allow the mods to handle the situation and get back to you before further discussion.

SS...I don't think anyone was asking Renea to post personal information. We just suggested she could post receipts and records with all personal information blacked out to add credibility to her story so that the mods would let her continue and not close threads.

 

[ketel0ne]

They even updated the flier with the website address and didn't change the date.

 

[McSev]

I wish the razor was sharper. It relies heavily on the dogs, and the car. Everyone in this apparently lies like there is no tomorrow.

There's one thing about razors - one side can be sharper than the other. That's how you get those little cuts you don't expect when you're shaving....

While you're talking hard evidence, the cell phone records are evidence also. Psychological behavior can play a part in this too, and specifically the legal term "consciousness of guilt." As we have heard all the 911 calls, the first jail call, and subsequent Lee/Casey calls, Casey doesn't appear to care about the search for Caylee - only the pursuit of protection and defense for herself. In this, she lends the perception of behavior attributed to Scott Peterson, Ewing Scott, Richard Crafts and a whole host of other missing person's cases: they did very little, if anything at all, to find their missing loved ones. Mostly they lied to continue the mis-direction for the investigators, always pointing away from themselves. Why? Because they already knew where their missing loved ones were. Casey, in her phone calls with her parents, the 911 calls, the calls with Lee all have the general theme: it's about her, not finding Caylee. She appears she doesnt want Caylee to be found, the "Caylee's life could be in danger" and "I'm protecting her" statements. Really, one could almost look at those statement as form of displacement because it could read:

"My life could be in danger and I'm protecting me"

 

[SuziQ]

What % are the dogs accurate then? Do you know if they dogs in question have ever "missed' before?

What was the smell in the car if it wasn't a dead body? We've had homicide detectives who are EXPERTS in this say they smelled it -- and the smell was decomposition.

And George and Cindy smelled the same smell as well.

 

[chevylee]

Gosh darnit let "Ranae" post whats on her mind, without blocking her/him..
jmo

 

[STEADFAST]

If that guilty party is one person the facts do come to light and the victim is found. Could anymore really be done in this case to obscure the truth?

The one-person guilty party has a defense attorney and often a family to perpetrate the misinformation. Remember how Stacey Peterson was "spotted" in Thailand, for instance? Also, sometimes we add to the confusion ourselves because our speculations sometimes become "facts" just because they've been repeated so often.

It seems to me like most cases get more and more convoluted as time goes by. Then, usually, if they are solved, it turns out it was all pretty simple and involved a lone act by some selfish, sociopathic .

 

[ketel0ne]

There's one thing about razors - one side can be sharper than the other. That's how you get those little cuts you don't expect when you're shaving....

While you're talking hard evidence, the cell phone records are evidence also. Psychological behavior can play a part in this too, and specifically the legal term "consciousness of guilt." As we have heard all the 911 calls, the first jail call, and subsequent Lee/Casey calls, Casey doesn't appear to care about the search for Caylee - only the pursuit of protection and defense for herself. In this, she lends the perception of behavior attributed to Scott Peterson, Ewing Scott, Richard Crafts and a whole host of other missing person's cases: they did very little, if anything at all, to find their missing loved ones. Mostly they lied to continue the mis-direction for the investigators, always pointing away from themselves. Why? Because they already knew where their missing loved ones were. Casey, in her phone calls with her parents, the 911 calls, the calls with Lee all have the general theme: it's about her, not finding Caylee. She appears she doesnt want Caylee to be found, the "Caylee's life could be in danger" and "I'm protecting her" statements. Really, one could almost look at that statement as form of displacement because it could read:

"My life could be in danger and I'm protecting me"

I think what is beginning to trouble me and has since Friday afternoon is the number of people that do not want to find Caylee is actually growing around Casey.

 

[cuppy199]

Well the dogs are NOT 100% accurate. Where are the DNA results from the car ? What evidence is there at this time? None, zilch, o%. Until :LE give positive forensic results there is no proof that a crime was committed. Dogs are not proof they are only a tool just like a polygraph test is only a tool and not positive proof.

Even if LE has the DNA test back there not gonna release them. They will get as much evidents as they can before that happens. They dont want Casey lawyer seeing the evidents until there ready.IMO Your right the dogs arent always 100 % accurate. But I can say from my personal experince with working with canines for 15 years they havent been wrong yet. But thats just my experince

 

[ketel0ne]

The one-person guilty party has a defense attorney and often a family to perpetrate the misinformation. Remember how Stacey Peterson was "spotted" in Thailand, for instance? Also, sometimes we add to the confusion ourselves because our speculations sometimes become "facts" just because they've been repeated so often.

It seems to me like most cases get more and more convoluted as time goes by. Then, usually, if they are solved, it turns out it was all pretty simple and involved a lone act by some selfish, sociopathic .

I hope so. Starting to lose my grip a little

At least Stacey's friends, family and neighbors were telling us what they thought happened, what they thought of Drew etc. Who is Caylee's voice? Where is crying Christina from the jail call night one? Where is Amy crying out for Caylee?

 

[SuziQ]

Gosh darnit let "Ranae" post whats on her mind, without blocking her/him..
jmo

The JG thread is reopened.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69066&page=9

 

[RoseRed]

What % are the dogs accurate then? Do you know if they dogs in question have ever "missed' before?

What was the smell in the car if it wasn't a dead body? We've had homicide detectives who are EXPERTS in this say they smelled it -- and the smell was decomposition.

They said that at the bond hearing but it did not seem so important that they impounded the car two days later. If the death smell was really there and that strong the car would have been impounded the night of the 15th early 16th not the 17th. JMHO

 

[STEADFAST]

I think what is beginning to trouble me and has since Friday afternoon is the number of people that do not want to find Caylee is actually growing around Casey.

Casey is only going to gain more and more defenders as this goes along. Pretty soon the "Casey Is Innocent" sites will start up. Why does that always happen?

 

[swa]

Even if LE has the DNA test back there not gonna release them. They will get as much evidents as they can before that happens. They dont want Casey lawyer seeing the evidents until there ready.IMO Your right the dogs arent always 100 % accurate. But I can say from my personal experince with working with canines for 15 years they havent been wrong yet. But thats just my experince

I wouldn't be so sure. I think if the tests come back positive -- they will tell Baez to try to get Casey to finally admit this.

If she wants to take her chances in a jury trial -- good luck. Although charging her with murder will be difficult -- even with a body.

 

[SuziQ]

The one-person guilty party has a defense attorney and often a family to perpetrate the misinformation. Remember how Stacey Peterson was "spotted" in Thailand, for instance? Also, sometimes we add to the confusion ourselves because our speculations sometimes become "facts" just because they've been repeated so often.

It seems to me like most cases get more and more convoluted as time goes by. Then, usually, if they are solved, it turns out it was all pretty simple and involved a lone act by some selfish, sociopathic .

Thank you for posting this.

 

[chevylee]

The JG thread is reopened.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69066&page=9

Thaxs, about time..

 

[TravelingBug]

Ok - I'll give you that - even though usually if you park in the driveway you come through the front door. That doesn't matter. I don't get the behavior from picking up the car. How did he NOT KNOW? Why did he clean it out? Why did Cindy wash the pants? (and then say different things about when she told LE about doing it)

Just speaking from personal experience, in the past 20 years, including the decade or so that I at least part-time lived at home and was driving, I've never had a house key. My parents never had house keys. It's only the last decade when I'm garage-less and don't have a choice that I only have a front door to use (and obviously now carry keys)

We had a keypad on the garage door (as I think someone said the Anthony family did) in case someone didn't have a garage door opener with them for some reason, and we ALL used the garage, though only two cars (out of four) could go in the garage.

So as much as I hate to defend Casey, and as much as I don't buy the 24th story for a host of other reasons, that part I actually don't find odd at all.

Plus, given what may be a history of losing or locking keys places (based on Cindy saying Casey always carried a spare set of car keys) I could them perhaps having a keypad simply because it was easier (and maybe a more direct way to the room for her and Caylee)?

It may be a warm climate phenomenon (or at least a west coast one) having those keypad things on garage and this funny no key or rarely entering through the front door unless you're bringing "real" guests type of thing.

Just to add another perspective

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Casey is only going to gain more and more defenders as this goes along. Pretty soon the "Casey Is Innocent" sites will start up. Why does that always happen?

Are we sure they are not up already?! :waitasec:

 

[SuziQ]

They said that at the bond hearing but it did not seem so important that they impounded the car two days later. If the death smell was really there and that strong the car would have been impounded the night of the 15th early 16th not the 17th. JMHO

Dispatch doesn't relay the dead body statement to the first responders, the Anthony's neglect to mention to LE the dead smell. Time to get a search warrant signed by a judge. Yep, I can see why the car wouldn't have been picked up till the 17th.

 

[ketel0ne]

Casey is only going to gain more and more defenders as this goes along. Pretty soon the "Casey Is Innocent" sites will start up. Why does that always happen?

I added the following to my post above.

At least Stacey's friends, family and neighbors were telling us what they thought happened, what they thought of Drew etc. Who is Caylee's voice? Where is crying Christina from the jail call night one? Where is Amy crying out for Caylee?

 

[McSev]

I think what is beginning to trouble me and has since Friday afternoon is the number of people that do not want to find Caylee is actually growing around Casey.

I think I understand what you mean. Even in the cases I mentioned prior, friends of those missing were looking and looking hard: and sharing media duty too. Other than the family, who else has spoken out about finding Caylee other than her parents and Lee? When psychics can team up and go down there and to their credit, they walked and looked, local folks talking on one of the media forums goes to Jay Blanchard Park, yet you don't see friends organizing their own searches of lakes, parks or anything. No, they don't have locations handed to them, but it sure as hell doesn't take a rocket scientist to take a walk on a sunny afternoon and look in places you DO know about via LE reports.