Caylee Anthony Drowned In Family Pool Theory

[TKS2003]

TKS2003 you wrote: "I agree, I have always thought that "Zanny the Nanny" was actually Zanax. I think she had been giving Caylee Zanax and leaving her to sleep in the car, while Casey was busy getting her party on...."


Zenny is an actual nickname for Zenaida as I found the following through a people search, please note the Victor G. through the email Lee sent in the 400pg. doc:

Zanny (Zenaida/Zenita) Fernandez-Gonzalez
26 Years Old/140lbs/5'6" or 5' 7"
Strait Hair but Naturally Curly (Brown)
Brown Eyes
Zanny's car seat is pink with Floral Design
2008 Silver Ford Focus purchased by Victor Gonzalez her Step father
Zanny's biological mother: Gloria Gonzalez 55 yrs old
Zanny's sister is abt. 28 yrs old Samantha
Zanny's roommate Raquel Farrell
Zanny's roommate Jennifer Rosa Miami?

Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez DOB 10-01-70 NY, MIAMI, UNI of FL born Sept.
CENAIDA, VENAIDA, ZNAIVA, ZENAYDA, ZENIA, ZEMIADA

GONZALEZ, ZENAIDA T (Age 45)
Associated names:
GONZALEEZ, ZENAIDA
GONZALEZ, ZENNEY
GONZALEZ, ZENNY
GONZALEZ, ZENY

* MIAMI, FL
* CHELSEA, MA
* MARIETTA, GA
* ORLANDO, FL
* WINTER PARK, FL

* GONZALEZ, JANELLY C (Age 37)
* MEDINA, NIEVES CARMEN (Age 55)
* GONZALES, LETICIA GONZALEZ (Age 108)
* GONZALEZ, FERNANDO
* GONZALEZ, LETICIA (Age 35)
* GONZALEZ, JANELLY C (Age 37)
* GONZALEZ, ZENNEY

GONZALEZ, ZEMIADA (Age 47)

* ROXBURY, MA
* ORLANDO, FL
* ALTAMONTE SPG, FL
* WINTER PARK, FL
* KISSIMMEE, FL

* GONZALEZ, VICTOR M (Age 35)
* GONZALEZ, VICTOR G (Age 56)
* GONZALEZ, VICTOR M (Age 56)
* GONZALEZ, MARCOS R (Age 53)
* GONZALEZ, ZEYDA S (Age 36)

**** note the Victor G, and Victor M ex: Gloria Gonzalez would be noted in directories as Victor G. the wife of Victor M.****

GONZALEZ, ZANNY (Age 36)
NEW YORK, NY

GONZALEZ, ZANNY M (Age 68)
BRONX, NY

**** Mods: Is there a specific thread for info only on Zenaida Gonzalez? If so should I start one and include this info? ****

Thanks

Hi!
Respectfully, I'm not sure what you're trying to say.....The nanny has been referred to as "ZANNY", not "Zenny". So I am not sure what you're trying to tell me here

 

[SWGAL]

The possibility of her drowning in the pool is one theory the police are working on.
I agree with it, and of course, it is possible that Cindy lied about finding it in her interview with Greta. I worry that Casey may have burned her body with gas from the gas cans Geo. found in Casey's car that had been stolen from him.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17353349/detail.html


Theory Suggests Caylee Anthony Drowned In Family Pool
http://www.wftv.com/news/17136493/detail.html

 

[Lorakai]

Hi!
Respectfully, I'm not sure what you're trying to say.....The nanny has been referred to as "ZANNY", not "Zenny". So I am not sure what you're trying to tell me here

Gosh,.. um,.. these are all sorts of different ways to pronounce or find information on Zenaida. I have heard in interviews with the family, them referencing to both ways of pronunciation. I was letting you know that Zanny and Zenny also referred to as Zanax could actually be a real nickname of Zenaida and not just association with the drug which is true.

ps,.. could you take the quote off your previous post,.. I have removed certain info from my original post. Thanks

 

[cjm11]

I wonder what drugs, chemicals would show up in the hair they tested that determined it was, in deed, Caylee.

 

[SleuthyGal]

Drugs and chemicals don't determine identity. DNA determines it. They did a DNA test of the hair AND the hair root and any skin attached. They had a 'known sample' of Caylee's DNA and the hair matched the sample. That's how they determined the identity of whose hair was in the trunk.

 

[Themis]

IMHO I agree. That's what the family wants people to think, but not until a body is discovered and too decomposed to provide evidence. In the meantime, demanding the public search for a live child. If the true cause of death is a drugged child (because she was in the way) or physical child abuse, then the guilty one(s) would rather if a body is found, blame it on a SODDI (some other dude did it) or accidental drowning. The response to an accidental drowning wouldn't be what we are seeing. Since the kidnapping story is debunked by the scientific fact that a dead child was in the trunk and in the yard, the only plausible theory left is overdose to keep her sleeping (intentional act) or physical child abuse resulting from someone's rage. If I had to choose between theories, I would choose the drugged child -- a 30 day "script" (prescription) of Xanax -- Zanny -- Zanny the Nanny took her. She got the 30 day script in Blanchard Park from some dealer and the blackjack "fell out of her bag" "fell out of her pocket" "get it." The 30 day supply fell out of her bag/pocket and Caylee, in the car during the days, ate them and died.

 

[eg@gm]

This is what a lot of us thought happened. I think Casey ititially wanted to do the right thing, which is why she called her parents (why not 911, i'm not sure).

But then she panicked and did something with Caylee...and made up a story.

I wonder what would have happened if Cindy or George answered the phone that day.

The case wouldn't have made national headlines if they would have answered.

 

[JWG]

Bumping this thread in order to carry our a discussion around the pool ladder. Such a discussion would tie into the accidental drowning theory.

JBean or another mod, could you modify the title to say something to the effect of:

Theory Suggests Caylee Anthony Drowned In Family Pool - Ladder found out of place

 

[SoCalSleuth]

They are seeking the death penalty. Do you really think KC and the Anthonys would let it go this far if it were truly an accident?

 

[JWG]

They are seeking the death penalty. Do you really think KC and the Anthonys would let it go this far if it were truly an accident?

I'm bumping the thread not because I believe the theory, but because there was a desire to discuss the ladder scenario.

 

[ohiogirl]

They are seeking the death penalty. Do you really think KC and the Anthonys would let it go this far if it were truly an accident?

Most rational, logical people wouldn't, but who knows with this group?

 

[believe09]

Sorry-not buyin it...what are the chances Casey would go to such great lengths to create a bizarre kidnapping scenario and then conceal and dump Caylee's body if it could have been charecterized in any way as an accident? I think there is too much circumstantial evidence pointing towards premeditation (the 100th episode of the show, google searches for chloroform)...JMVHO

 

[affinity]

Sorry-not buyin it...what are the chances Casey would go to such great lengths to create a bizarre kidnapping scenario and then conceal and dump Caylee's body if it could have been charecterized in any way as an accident? I think there is too much circumstantial evidence pointing towards premeditation (the 100th episode of the show, google searches for chloroform)...JMVHO

I have always thought this drowning in the pool thing is exactly what happened (Caylee died from accident/neglect). The elaborate cover up is because KC who was nearly completely nuts prior became totally nuts after.
She knew her Mother was going to be out of her mind furious (and I am sure she has been and still is).
The search for the episode is likely coincidence if prior to Caylee's death and was in KC's memory bank for easy access so she could come up with all this ridiculous movie-ish crap.

Let us not forget that if the answer were as "simple" as this (and it likely IS) that little miss cash cow would no longer be a cash cow..and everyone (including you and I) would have to go find some other exciting thing to do/write/say/conjur/report/etc etc. Do you think JB, AL and now this new guy want any of this to end? Hell, no. The new guy (Monroe?) described it yesterday as "fun". It is legal "fun" to him.

 

[wonders]

None of them ever said it was an accident unless you count what GA allegedly told RC/CH or whatever her name is. KC's own written statement said that the "nanny" kidnapped Caylee. Of course we know there was no nanny. It is way too late to change the story now.
IMVHO KC murdered her beautiful 2 year old daughter Caylee.

 

[stmarysmead]

It does seem ludicrous that this family would let an accidental death spiral into the current madness. But there are times when I can consider the possibilty.

1. Suppose Casey thought she could avoid all blame, and indeed be embraced by Family Anthony again if she were(as she called herself) another "victim" of a kidnapping. Her alternative was to prove her Mother right that she was a bad parent...and become the very person her Mother "could never forgive." If Caylee stayed "missing"...maybe she felt she could easily pull it all off.

Anyone with the chutzpah to walk down that Hall at Universal to her supposed "office" with the police, KNOWING it was a fabrication...is certainly capable of pushing any lie to the Max.

2. So maybe the Anthonys believed her kidnapping story at first. Maybe when they became "celebrities", money pouring in, foundations, etc...to keep believing in the Kidnapper had definite benefits than being just another set of grandparents whose grandbaby drowned. All the attention, donations, etc...would have dried up immediately. So why try to press Casey to say it was an accident...if her stubbornness was kind of working well for George and Cindy.

3.Then, when things went too far too long..the DP was on the table...they had ALL said and done too much to walk the story back to an accident.

Knowing the family ability to embrace fantasy, lie even when outrageous, and stubborn refusal to back off...yes, sometimes I can see it.

 

[affinity]

When I was very young a friend of mine fell down some concrete stairs. I found her laying at the base of the stairs looking befuddled. I remember that instead of having the appropriate response...I felt embarrassed for her! I went off to play elsewhere and did not tell anyone about what happened! (She was found by someone else and thankfully she didn't die and did not have a serious injury...but she was definitely stunned). That event has always haunted me. WHY didn't I handle that better than I did? What was wrong with me that I had the wrong response?

I believe I would be capable as being as stupid, inappropriate and weird as KC at her age. Because she has such deep neurosis all her life and Caylee's death and all the lawyers, news people and enabling parents are helping her to slip deeper and deeper into full blown psychosis (she exhibits clearly "dissassociative" behavior) .

 

[magic-cat]

So JWG, what about that latter? The person who wants to discuss does not seem to be around. Know something new, some new twist or nightmare we should know about? lol

 

[okiedokietoo]

What if the "ladder by the pool and gate left open" happened the same day the "shovel was borrowed"? KC tried to stage an accident. Caylee is already dead but KC was going to put Caylee into the pool, call CA and GA and say that "Caylee got into the pool and isn't breathing" -
KC decided not to stage the accident, borrowed the shovel to bury Caylee decided against that and Caylee stayed in the trunk


I was trying to come up with any possible scenario but after I typed that - it makes sense

 

[Harmony 2]

The ladder could have simply been moved to wash something in the pool,,, the shovel??

 

[LambChop]

Do we even know that the ladder and the gate being open is true? This came from the A's right. I read somewhere a comment that was made "If it was an accident you would call 911 not go borrow a shovel." Duct tape on a child that has drowned would not make any sense. Also renting a video about kidnapping and duct tape the night your child goes missing also does not make sense if it were an accident. JMO