Caylee Anthony General Discussion Thread #120

[Beagle1]

Or if the evidence is coming back as inconclusive or non-existent. This could go either way. I will not draw conclusions one way or the other. I do believe that if the tests came back conclusively they would have charged her and not really needed that new "controversial" Body Farm testing.

I believe that the sample sent to Body Farm for time of death data. The DA in this case would rather file charges when there is a body.

If the time of death could be even estimated, LE could go with phone records, GPS in phone, witnesses, and soil data to determine an area to search. After 31+ days of Casey's moving around, LE needs a smaller area to concentrate on. JMHO

 

[McSev]

Or if the evidence is coming back as inconclusive or non-existent. This could go either way. I will not draw conclusions one way or the other. I do believe that if the tests came back conclusively they would have charged her and not really needed that new "controversial" Body Farm testing.

I swing from your view to the "they're building their case" on a consistent basis. I do, however, believe that given Caylee's whereabouts have not been revealed, they won't be and that naturally makes me suspicious --if you know where your kid is, you didn't want to tell LE, well tell someone there at the house so they can get her. Casey's home: the whole idea is there is that she'd talk. She hasn't, and I'm fairly convinced she won't. Ever.

 

[Bobby62]

Good quote - Gollum! All that points to is a body - does not point to Caylee specifically (and yet - until those forensics come back). Very possible that Casey did have a dead body in that trunk - now if it was Caylee is another whole riddle!!!!

I agree that it does not point specifically to Caylee but missed the thread on all the other people Casey knew who are missing. ; )

"Everything I say may be wrong."

Richard Bach

 

[Wise Old Owl]

I'm sure while trying to find any new info on the threads, and other places, I've missed a lot of what's been said on T.V.

Is it true there has not been one legit press release at all from LE, FBI, CSI, CIA,
Child-Search Organizations, Casey, her atty... or anyone besides LP and GPs,
to let us know the progress of this case? If so, I find this highly unusual.

Even LE during the Wash DC/VA Sniper Case (?) a few years ago gave us something.... even when they told us nothing!

Local LE - the OCSO have made a couple statements but nothing in the past week. You can go to www.osco.com and find what they have released. FBI or anyone else HAVE NOT SAID WORD ONE.

 

[karenmamo]

They didn't even blink when Baez sprung Casey from jail, since their case is being built without her cooperation.And LE provided no protection outside the jail when she was released. Someone said they had been told it would be there! I thought the entire department felt they could not care any less about her facing the reporters. (Nor did I)

There would be no reason to use the sophisticated equipment at the Body Farm if there was no evidence to analyze in order to determine time of death.

......and that is some of what I am thinking.

 

[wedavis]

The doubt is in the mind of the public. LE doesn't care about public doubt, as long as they know they have the goods. They didn't even blink when Baez sprung Casey from jail, since their case is being built without her cooperation.

The forensic evidence is being subjected to additional tests to fill in the part of the story that isn't coming from Casey - when did the death occur.

There would be no reason to use the sophisticated equipment at the Body Farm if there was no evidence to analyze in order to determine time of death.

I was under the impression that the Body Farm could determine this, but we don't know that is what they were called in to do.

 

[marmar]

"You can hide undda my uhm-brella, ellla, ella. ella
ah, ah, ah, ah..."

Ok, you can curse me now for sticking that in your head for the rest of the night.

:bang:

 

[PeteyGirl]

The slow and methodical breaking down of Casey Anthony.

Did you hear Leonard in the winnebago talk about searching for a body should that prove to be the case? He was pretty matter-of-fact about it, which made me re-evaluate all his comments about believing Caylee is still alive. I'm not at all sure he isn't saying one thing while planning for an entirely different scenario.

I am leaning in this direction, too.

It is extremely difficult to out think a sociopath. Even if they aren't the brightest bulb on the string . . . their thought process is pretty alien. I know the criminal profilers do this. Has this case been addressed by a criminal profiler in any in depth?

I guess the closest we get is a bounty hunter. I believe he never believed Casey's "story" at all, but it serves his purposes to appear as if he does. He is trying to out think a sociopath, and his maneuvers might not make sense to us "normies".

I think BH is "working" the Anthonys. Oh God, I hope that he knows what he's doing, and does it well.

Petey

 

[DianeB]

Or if the evidence is coming back as inconclusive or non-existent. This could go either way. I will not draw conclusions one way or the other. I do believe that if the tests came back conclusively they would have charged her and not really needed that new "controversial" Body Farm testing.

Yeah, we disagree. I think they want the Body Farm evidence to support their timeline of when Caylee was killed.

 

[ThoughtElf]

Unless she (and I think you meant to cay Caylee) is IN SAFE HANDS.

Thanks for the correction, I did indeed mean Caylee. good eye.

Please define safe hands?

I'm not married to my belief, and I'd like nothing more than to jump over to your side of the belief fence, but so far, I am just not convinced. The again, I might be too entrenched in my own definition of what is a 'safe' environment for an infant.

Our mileage may vary on this one.

 

[NighTillDawn]

If that transpires, I hope you're wearing a good foundation garment!

LoL How did you know about my garment? That was suppose to be kept a secret.

raying: for Caylee

 

[pizmex]

I believe in defending the civil rights and getting a fair trial, but I do NOT believe in letting murderers go free.

Well, your statements seem to be in contradiction. A defendant who has his or her due process violated (I am assuming you meant due process when you wrote civil rights, but you may correct me if otherwise) will go scott free. What about a young murder defendant who is undoubtedly guilty in an airtight case, who is then held in jail without any bail and made to wait there for 45 years before a trial? Do you think that these kind of things don't happen in some other countries?

That is why I think most criminal attys are without ethics - to defend someone who is guilty is just plain old-fashioned wrong. To try to prove innocence where none exists.

But a guilty person is entitled to a defense. This is also somewhat of a paradox because a defendant who maintains his innocence to the very end isn't guilty until a jury decides. There, you can't get to "guilty" without a trial. And a criminal defendant has a constitutional right to an attorney. A murderer is only a murderer after a jury says so. Until then, he's a defendant, a murder suspect. So how should this hypothetical murder trial proceed? Should the defense lawyer announce that the defendant is 100% guilty at the opening and say" let's cut right to the sentencing?"

It seems that you're saying that a defendant shouldn't have representation.

 

[wedavis]

Or if the evidence is coming back as inconclusive or non-existent. This could go either way. I will not draw conclusions one way or the other. I do believe that if the tests came back conclusively they would have charged her and not really needed that new "controversial" Body Farm testing.

I took it to mean that since this case is receiving national attention, LE and the DA don't want to mess this one up. They want to have the strongest possible case.

 

[curiositycat]

I just keep thinking how tense the situation in that house must be. Casey must be crawling out of her skin by now. I bet she has few if any friends left at this point. I believe sooner than later this thing will get so tense that they will move Casey to a safe house.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

I believe that the sample sent to Body Farm for time of death data. The DA in this case would rather file charges when there is a body.

If the time of death could be even estimated, LE could go with phone records, GPS in phone, witnesses, and soil data to determine an area to search. After 31+ days of Casey's moving around, LE needs a smaller area to concentrate on. JMHO

Time has run out for a body. LE searched (supposedly covertly) for one. If a body was found tomorrow COD would be impossible shot of gun shot through a bone or blow to the head (skull cracked). Yet from day one LE has never been all that concerned about finding a body. Without COD charing murder (and proving murder) is going to be a VERY STEEP uphill climb - especially when Casey can then claim "it was all an accident!"

I swing from your view to the "they're building their case" on a consistent basis. I do, however, believe that given Caylee's whereabouts have not been revealed, they won't be and that naturally makes me suspicious --if you know where your kid is, you didn't want to tell LE, well tell someone there at the house so they can get her. Casey's home: the whole idea is there is that she'd talk. She hasn't, and I'm fairly convinced she won't. Ever.

Again, HOW do YOU KNOW that Casey hasn't talked?????

I agree that it does not point specifically to Caylee but missed the thread on all the other people Casey knew who are missing. ; )

"Everything I say may be wrong."

Richard Bach

Casey ran with a 20 something partying crowd. There are many many many 20 somethings out there that very could be missing and not missed yet. Runaways, druggies, and the like. Don't have to have a "report" of another person missing to have a body show up.

 

[DianeB]

He said LE has the death scenario covered. He is going to pursue the theory she is alive.

Saying that he believes Caylee is alive is the only possible approach he can take to get Casey to talk to him (and slip up), whether he actually believes Caylee is alive or not.

He keeps saying he'll wait for her to get comfortable and "feel human again" before he talks to her about Caylee. He's after information, whatever it turns out to be.

 

[lostnfound85]

If Caylee was kidnapped , why was Casey lying and saying she had her for the 31 days after she was missing? She should have immediately asked for an Amber alert to be issued by the police. This would be the only actions that would make sense IF she was kidnapped. What CAsey did are the actions of someone complicite in the death of her daughter.

 

[whiteangora]

**snipped** from Seriously Searching

No one has ANY right to Caylee right now except Law Enforcement. She is considered missing plus in clear and immediate danger. This would supercede anything that anyone else produces to state otherwise (which they could not have anyway since no paperwork has been filed as to transfering custody from the mother). end snip


Except for say - oh - her biological father who has a paternity test PROVING this fact. And if this "father" is someone of prominent notarity (famous or infamous). And she is currently NOT in the US proper - this could throw some serious moneky wrenches into the mix.

Yes, but being a biological parent does not assure custodial rights.
It's a nice theory, I'd like to believe Caylee's ok, it just doesn't seem to add up though.
If this father was in a foreign country, he could be extradited.

 

[GetSmart]

So no one seems to think she could have placed caylee in the hands of someone in the underground to protect her .. so she would say to get back at GPs

 

[Bobby62]

I just keep thinking how tense the situation in that house must be. Casey must be crawling out of her skin by now. I bet she has few if any friends left at this point. I believe sooner than later this thing will get so tense that they will move Casey to a safe house.

A real Dutch oven.