Caylee Anthony General Discussion thread #138

[dunlurken]

There is no real conclusive evidence for that. There have been many studies and people in the field cannot say for sure that it is "Just" enviornment. Many say it is inate and then exsacerbated by environment. It can go either way apparently.

Absolutely true. Not a shrink, so I can't say one way or the other. But I think it has a lot to do with environment.

 

[Waddles]

Due to the 31 days elapsing between Caylee missing and LE getting involved..they were unable to get many of the surveillance vids they wanted. Ususally these vids are on loops which automatically record over themselves with in a short time frame.

ah ha of course, duh-thanks!
I believe there were many follow up interviews we haven't sen as there are many questioned that were not put to her friends such as in TonE Lazzaro's interview, which would be important info to the case

 

[Joyce]

I'm going to repost this for the day crew , I couldn't get back in last night (server busy )

Looking for feed back on this , there is a connection between the ZG that looked at the sawgrass apartment and Cast Iron tattoos , Cast Iron tattoos and Lake Vaj .
The ZG that looked at the apartment , allot of the discription matches what Casey said . From NY (Bronx) , Mother hispanic , Father black , Lived by a lake . Then another odd thing , if you go to her boyriends page he has Cast Iron tats as his friend .

Cast iron tattoo guy is one of the regulars at lake Vaj and in several photos



ZG http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=166182731

Watch her second slide show on the left , the BF is getting her name tattooed on his leg. Also in that same slide show is a NEW SUV pictured , this ZG said she wasn't working so how does one afford this ???

Her boyfriend Johnathan http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=175545982

Check the 3 rd page of his friends..............none other then Cast Iron tattoos

Crew photohttp://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=395105380&albumID=142843&imageID=630569

Lake Vaj photo
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=296121432&albumID=654323&imageID=5042879


I find that very odd since there are many many tattoo shops in Orlando area

Feed back PLEASE !!!!

wow an interesting find an her boyfriend's hometown is PR i hope someone is really checking this out

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I was under the impression that they gave it back with the passwords changed. Remember Cindy was all pissed off about that.

That most likely just copied her hard drive no? Do they really need to keep the actual computer after they glean all of the information out of it?

Maybe they did give Cindy's laptop back, but not sure if they would give Casey's back. Remember...they are still gleaning information from it as they did with the rookie cop.

 

[RhondaIL]

Perfect... how did you do that? Just curious. I tried but it didnt work. thanks again!

I couldn't get in one printscreen and had to piece it together in paintshop pro.

 

[Faythe13]

The 08/09/08 call...that was ON Caylee's b-day.

 

[dunlurken]

New Question.... Just who was Cindy talking to in the background of the 911 call where she says Casey says Zanny took Caylee. If you read George's police report, Cindy told him about 10 PM that night. He called Lee @ 8:00 PM to have him go comfort Cindy and find out what was bothering her. So WHO was she talking to?

Cindy was talking to Casey, unless I missed something.

 

[karen7868]

Gosh, now I have opened my mouth and can't shut up

When I heard about George going to the trunk to get the gas cans out, I think he suspected something wasn't right. He seemed hell bent to get to that trunk. WTH? Who rotates their own tires these days??? It sounded to me like just an excuse to get to the trunk.

I can just picture him opening the trunk and smelling that smell and asking Casey WTF happened. She probably had some story and begged for a month to explain the smell and that's why Cindy made the statement about had already given her a month. Casey probably figured that would give her enough to get her story straight, clean up her computer, etc.

I would like to know if George really did go to work that day and if Cindy had left work early. He was probably freaking out and called her to come home.

I don't think Casey would have been so adamant about letting her get the gas cans if that was all that was in there. She knew he would know the smell.

 

[Patty G]

Well, greater minds then ours argue this in universities every day.
I have seen enough to believe that you are right! You do have the occasional "bad seed" in a completely otherwise normal family though! LOL:blowkiss:

I agree, there are those that may be born that way. But I believe a lot of parents start teaching children how to lie, with the simplest of formulas. "Phone rings, parents tell children, whoever it is, I am in the bathroom." while the parent is standing in front of them. Children think "wow, that worked". They put that in their little memory bank for future use.

 

[krimekat]

Whoa, I don't remember reading that! Where was this?

NOTE:

There are THREE domestic calls from the anthony home in the same week! From 4/21/05
to 4/30/05. What the eff was going on. Two of the three calls were on the SAME day.
2 on 4/21/05

I believe there was only one call but two records on the document: ONE is a duplicate (DUP) . . . JMO

 

[TURBOTHINK]

I don't need to read the book, I had a brother that "lied" to the hills and I know that it was my mother that covered his butt from my father. My brother took this to a high level. Then I have an ex ... true sociopath! Got away with everything and anything, rich family, adopted. He is now 67 and still lying.

You could have WRITTEN the book...........LOL

 

[Patty G]

The 08/09/08 call...that was ON Caylee's b-day.

I'm lost here!

 

[gigi2009]

I don't think anyone is born a sociopath. I think the environment that the child is raised in starts to fine tune someone to become a sociopath.

I have this debate all the time the Nature vs. Nuture as far as Psyche goes. But then there always seems to be those anomalies that disprove those debates. For instance, a beloved poster here--MitchLite, their daughter is truly difficult and sociopathic but they pointed out that their other children, raised the same way are responsible healthy full grown adults. So I think it can go both ways somethimes. Forgive me if I got any of the particulars wrong.



I also wanted to take a moment to say something to ALL THE POSTERS HERE: Every single one of you despite these horrible circumstances that brought us together, has given me so much faith in how truly giving, wonderful, caring and determined we all are despite our differences to see justice done for the victims that have no voice. We are their voice and we may argue, laugh, cry and despair but we are all united in this one thing. I have grown immensely, learned immeasurably and found things within myself that have been dormant far too long. I thank each and every one of you for that. Carry on the good work and thankyou for being here.

 

[rozey]

This sounds like a great book! Thanks for reminding me! I am going to order this today!

O/T...When are you going to find time to read!!!!!:crazy:

 

[TonyGatto]

New Question.... Just who was Cindy talking to in the background of the 911 call where she says Casey says Zanny took Caylee. If you read George's police report, Cindy told him about 10 PM that night. He called Lee @ 8:00 PM to have him go comfort Cindy and find out what was bothering her. So WHO was she talking to?

We seem to believe it was George walking into the garage/house. I believe George said he go home at 9:50 -- which would be right around the time of the last 911 call.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Absolutely true. Not a shrink, so I can't say one way or the other. But I think it has a lot to do with environment.

I think it is safe to say that we haven't scratched the surface on the human brain and I won't pretend to understand it until we get to the other 90+% of unlocking the secrets there.

 

[diablo]

Due to the 31 days elapsing between Caylee missing and LE getting involved..they were unable to get many of the surveillance vids they wanted. Ususally these vids are on loops which automatically record over themselves with in a short time frame.

true. from what we're read Casey always used a credit card, so they can determine where she was based on those receipts. Its a guess but you could also look at the amounts and see if she was, for example, ordering food for one or two people.

 

[Arwen]

me either and that is my number one theory and yet I did not see it anywhere in the documents - did you make that up?

For one, I said IIRC. For two, I said I'm looking. It is a freaking 437 document.

I'm LOOKING.

 

[mysteriew]

May be when the GP figure dout the baby was on the way.

If it wasn't when they found out the baby was on the way, it could certainly explain why the parents didn't seem to know that a baby was on the way. The number and severity of disputes makes it look like they were pretty self involved at that time.

 

[Faythe13]

I'm lost here!

It looks like there is a disturbance call on 08/09/08. Sorry I should have clarified that. I don't remember hearing about this. Anyone else? It was ON Caylee's birthday.