Cesar Laurean's Trial

[snowshuze]

I'm trying to remember what the daycare lady testified to about who and what time the baby was picked up that day. Anyone?

 

[Topsail Girl]

Day care lady said she did not know - the sign out sheet was just initialed "CL" -

 

[snowshuze]

I remember her making a point about the difference in their initials.
Daggone CRS.

 

[Topsail Girl]

yes she said their handwriting styles were very opposite of each other and she did not see who came in to pick up their daughter. When she looked at the sign out log it only said "CL" and she could not determine which one of them wrote it. - IMO purposely altered so that no one could tell which one picked her up.

 

[GeekyGirl]

Geeky Girl

I've read and heard that Christina was supposedly home by 7pm as well. This is just another one of those - yeah WE know this but does the JURY know this - questions I'm having. Has anyone heard that testified to by any of the witnesses? I think in large part, not being sure how much the jury knows about Christina is what is driving me mad right now AARRRGGHH

No, I don't think they've heard that. I may have missed it, but I don't think I've heard the state explain exactly when they actually think the murder took place. IMO This could go either way as far as the jury goes.

 

[panthera]

My confusion at this point is this - defense witnesses testify that Maria & Cesar weren't in contact with each other because of the MPO - so what is the defense theory, that Maria just appeared at his house uninvited that evening? Wouldn't she have thought he'd be at the Christmas party unless she knew otherwise in advance? And even if she had stopped by the Christmas party looking for him, it seems there were so many people there that she'd have to be there a while looking around for him and would've been seen by more than one person. :waitasec:

 

[Topsail Girl]

Makes sense to me. I just do not believe that Maria was at that Christmas party. I think she was dead by then - or seriously injured...ETA - not seriously injured - she was dead or lay dying :-(

 

[GeekyGirl]

Makes sense to me. I just do not believe that Maria was at that Christmas party. I think she was dead by then - or seriously injured...

I'm right there with you.

 

[GeekyGirl]

My confusion at this point is this - defense witnesses testify that Maria & Cesar weren't in contact with each other because of the MPO - so what is the defense theory, that Maria just appeared at his house uninvited that evening? Wouldn't she have thought he'd be at the Christmas party unless she knew otherwise in advance? And even if she had stopped by the Christmas party looking for him, it seems there were so many people there that she'd have to be there a while looking around for him and would've been seen by more than one person. :waitasec:

I agree, very strange. Doesn't it seem like cell phone records could have been useful in this regard? IIRC Capt Sutherland said early on that they had proof that CL and ML had been in contact that day, prior to her arrival at his house.

 

[Topsail Girl]

Ok I'm gonna do my very best to listen and follow along but please keep posting updates if you can.

 

[panthera]

I agree, very strange. Doesn't it seem like cell phone records could have been useful in this regard? IIRC Capt Sutherland said early on that they had proof that CL and ML had been in contact that day, prior to her arrival at his house.

And what happened to him during this trial? :waitasec: IMO, there had to be some contact between them, not just that day, but beforehand as well arranging for her to go to El Paso.

 

[GeekyGirl]

And what happened to him during this trial? :waitasec: IMO, there had to be some contact between them, not just that day, but beforehand as well arranging for her to go to El Paso.

Very good question... To which I do not have a good answer. I'm with you on the prior contact... Doubt CL would have been smart enough to cover his tracks electronically, but then again, who knows?

 

[snowshuze]

Ugh. Jurors excused until Monday morning.

 

[Topsail Girl]

Geeky Girl somewhere along the way her phone was chucked out on the side of 17 near the base. I don't even know if it was that day. Mary testified that she tried to call Maria after her room mate called that Maria's phone went to voice mail straight away

 

[panthera]

Video feed just came up after court was back in session.

Apparently there will be no rebuttal by the state and everyone has agreed to Closing Arguments on Monday morning.

 

[Topsail Girl]

Ugh. Jurors excused until Monday morning.

Seriously?? I wonder why.

 

[snowshuze]

Don't know what the court has to work out?

 

[snowshuze]

AAAAAAAAAAAH ok, working on charges other than 1st degree.

 

[panthera]

They are going ahead with the charge conference now.

 

[panthera]

Seriously?? I wonder why.

Judge said something about not wanting the jury to get the case so late on Friday......