Charlie Kirk Shot and Killed Utah 09/10/25

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I loved him, too. It's a great loss for our country, and as Utah's Governor said during the press conference, "It's a dark day for our nation."
It is indeed. :( He didn't deserve this.
 
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That man was also arrested though for obstruction so it's very possible there is a reason he was in the condition he was in. The police can't control who is taking photos and what they are posting and saying about the photos. I don't believe LE ever said that man was a POI in this case, it seems other had the photo and assumed that. At the presser they did say this man was arrested, but not for the shooting.
Someone had posted upthread that this guy was yelling "shoot him, shoot him" at some point during Charlie's remarks, so it's possible the crowd singled him out as the possible shooter after the shooting occurred.
 
  • #203
The problem is that whenever you have an outdoor event or even an indoor event with thousands and thousands of people, it is almost impossible to keep the people on stage 100 percent safe. That is what happened here. Would it have made a difference to have drones? Maybe. I think drones are fantastic, but will they stop this from happening? We should give it a try.
This is so horrific. If you have not seen the video of Kirk being shot, I would advise against watching it.
 
  • #204
From 200yds away, from height, at a man underneath an awning, and acurately hitting a part of the body that would almost certainly mean death. Seems unlikely that the person responsible is a rank amateur.
I'm with you.
I loved Charlie. My heart hurts.
When someone is doing something bad and they are killed it’s very sad. But when someone is good and kind and decent and loves my Lord Jesus and is murdered for doing good, my heart breaks. God bless his family.
The world lost a fighter!
A powerful man. Cut down because of it.
"You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death. That is nonsense. It's drivel. But I am -- I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights." - Charlie Kirk

I wonder if he still would have stood by that belief if he knew he would be one of the victims. Everyone thinks it won't happen to them, or their family, until it does.
He was well aware of the threats due to his beliefs. He stood by his beliefs, his opinions and continued to share them in a manner of open discussion with those that wanted to listen, debate or argue with him. We need more of that from all perspectives. jmo
 
  • #205
John Miller on CNN: Individual in custody is about 25 years old.
 
  • #206
Please everyone,
I am BEGGING YOU, do not make this political. Let's keep the emotional aspect out of it since emotions are running so high. Let's stick to the facts, let's post theories based on facts.
Charlie Kirk was a person whose opinions some strongly agreed with and others vehemently disagreed with. He was murdered today. Let's deal with the murder, the facts of the murder, and the theories we can offer based on facts.
Thank you.
Tricia
 
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University police won't say if gun used to kill Charlie Kirk was recovered​

At the recently concluded news conference on the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk, a reporter asked the chief of the Utah Vally University police force, Jeff Long, if the gun used in the killing had been recovered.

Long paused and then said: “Um, I, at this point I can’t disclose that.”

He won't say because he doesn't have the authority, or doesn't want to?
If he knows and can answer but doesn't want to, why not?
No is sufficient.
Yes could result in a whole bunch of rumors or speculation they don't want now?
If they do have the weapon, they could glean info from it, its origins, serial number (if not scrubbed), DNA possibly, etc.
 
  • #209
The timing of the shot, during a question about shootings, thats quite a coincidence.

Curious if there was any possible way for the shooter to know what was being discussed on stage.
 
  • #210
This is not right. Not for our country, not for our babies and not for his family.

I’m truly heartbroken and at a loss.
 
  • #211
Here are some details about the attitudes prevailing before the event from a USA Today article.

Almost 1,000 people had signed a petition to bar Kirk from speaking at the university. More than 6,800 people had signed a petition requesting that faculty prevent Kirk from speaking at a similar event at Utah State University.
Allowing him to speak on our campus would not only misrepresent the values we hold dear but also create an environment where divisive rhetoric could flourish,” the petition read.

The university affirmed its "commitment to free speech, intellectual inquiry, and constructive dialogue" and urged faculty and staff to keep institutional communication neutral in a statement days before the shooting."
 
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The timing of the shot, during a question about shootings, thats quite a coincidence.

Curious if there was any possible way for the shooter to know what was being discussed on stage.
I understand but don't think one had to do with the other. JMO
 
  • #214
He won't say because he doesn't have the authority, or doesn't want to?
If he knows and can answer but doesn't want to, why not?
No is sufficient.
Yes could result in a whole bunch of rumors or speculation they don't want now?
If they do have the weapon, they could glean info from it, its origins, serial number (if not scrubbed), DNA possibly, etc.
Assuming a bullet or shell casing was recovered, they may want to wait until ballistics come back to state conclusively that they recovered the gun used in the shooting.
 
  • #215

FBI appeals to the public for information about the shooting​

BY HALLIE GOLDEN

The FBI’s Salt Lake City office has added an online form to its website where the public can report information about Kirk’s killing on a Utah college campus.

The form says the FBI is “seeking information regarding the shooting at Utah Valley University that took place on September 10, 2025.”

It asks the person submitting the form to include their name and contact information and then there’s a section for information about the incident.

 
  • #216
What can we conclude about a suspect/person of interest who carries out an assassination in front of thousands of people? People other than the shooter's target could have been killed too. Thousands of attendees are probably traumatized. I wonder if the shooter takes delight in what they did?
 
  • #217
"Hunter Brown, a 24-year-old junior at Utah Valley University, was about 10 feet from the stage where Kirk was speaking before an audience at the campus. He said Kirk was talking about shootings by transgender people in response to an audience member’s question when a single gunshot rang out.
“He said there were too many shootings [by transgender people],” Brown said in an interview with the Minnesota Star Tribune. “Then the pop went off "

 
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"Hunter Brown, a 24-year-old junior at Utah Valley University, was about 10 feet from the stage where Kirk was speaking before an audience at the campus. He said Kirk was talking about shootings by transgender people in response to an audience member’s question when a single gunshot rang out.
“He said there were too many shootings [by transgender people],” Brown said in an interview with the Minnesota Star Tribune. “Then the pop went off.”

Wow. All I've got to say about that remark without getting banned
 
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What can we conclude about a suspect/person of interest who carries out an assassination in front of thousands of people? People other than the shooter's target could have been killed too. Thousands of attendees are probably traumatized. I wonder if the shooter takes delight in what they did?
Probably yes.
 
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