Chase Merritt Charged W/Murder of Joseph, Summer, Gianni and Joe Jr McStay #4

[cryscrys]

Thank you

 

[oceanblueeyes]

If the link works....it's Imes from yesterday.

Thank you so much, Cricket for providing Imes closing. I haven't watch Doughtery yet.

I watched this video instead as I could not tolerate wasting my time with hearing the defense nonsense any longer. If I never have to hear either of them again, I know I will be much better off, and my BP wont rise either. Imo, they are beyond disgusting.

I thought Imes did a fantastic job. He comes across as a trustworthy..very caring, and kind gentleman seeking justice, and I like his calm demeanor throughout.

Seeing what CM reduced all four victims to is beyond heartbreaking. Its something I will never be able to forget.

We will never know what all they endured before each of their beautiful lives ended.

If CM killed little G & J.Jr. first ( which I believe happened to shut them up for crying hysterically) I believe both Joey, and Summer longed for death to come for in death they would only be able to find peace.

This truly is one of the most brutal mass murder cases I've ever followed.

I believe all of the jurors will believe Merritt is one of the very worst in our society, and will render the just verdict of death.

CM not only showed no mercy for any of them, but the way he chose to end their lives proves he deserves no mercy!

I also like the way Imes discussed lingering doubt, and who is really to blame for any unanswered questions that may remain. Imes is correct... it was Merritt himself.

imo

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I could understand if he would be promoting 'doubt' in their minds - saying, in essence, there's not that much direct evidence, you deliberated for 5 days, if you're not that sure, then don't vote death. But instead, he's boring the jury to tears rehashing the case. They are probably watching the clock, just waiting for this to end, so they can get in the room.

I don't think though that we'll get a quick decision, I think it will be at least a day, because they took 5 days to reach a verdict, and that tells me the foreperson is letting everyone have their say. This is a horrific decision to have to make, especially if you have any lingering doubt, and people want to talk through their emotions.

Does the prosecution get a rebuttal, or once he stops droning on, is it just jury instructions and off to the jury room?

I wanted to welcome you back, Shiloh. I remember you in the Arias thread.

Imo, this verdict won't take as long as the guilt phase, I don't think.

In this phase is when they weigh the mitigating factors which are barely nonexistent other than him being 52 when he murdered all four. The countless aggravating factors by far outweighs any mitigating factors. So there really isn't nearly as much to deliberate about in this phase. IMO.

I agree with Imes, even CMs age is an aggravating factor along with him having children of his own. He should have known better at his age... which he did, but he just didn't care.

Jmho

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Being in San Diego, I was very much interested in the disappearance of the McStays and tried to follow the trial but there was too much to wade through to get to the facts.

I can certainly understand why, Thorn. Although on the trial forum we did have Tortoise, and others who were willing to transcribe some of it word for word for all of us.

Glad you are back now that we are waiting for the jury to determine CMs punishment.

IMO

 

[geevee]

In good timing, the World Cup game is about to begin, so I'm going to watch that. Is there somewhere to sign up for a text alert when there's a verdict?

Yes, L&C has a text verdict alert.

 

[Shiloh4242]

Thank you so much, Cricket for providing Imes closing. I haven't watch Doughtery yet.

I watched this video instead as I could not tolerate wasting my time with hearing the defense nonsense any longer. If I never have to hear either of them again, I know I will be much better off, and my BP wont rise either. Imo, they are beyond disgusting.

I thought Imes did a fantastic job. He comes across as a trustworthy..very caring, and kind gentleman seeking justice, and I like his calm demeanor throughout.

Seeing what CM reduced all four victims to is beyond heartbreaking. Its something I will never be able to forget.

We will never know what all they endured before each of their beautiful lives ended.

If CM killed little G & J.Jr. first ( which I believe happened to shut them up for crying hysterically) I believe both Joey, and Summer longed for death to come for in death they would only be able to find peace.

This truly is one of the most brutal mass murder cases I've ever followed.

I believe all of the jurors will believe Merritt is one of the very worst in our society, and will render the just verdict of death.

CM not only showed no mercy for any of them, but the way he chose to end their lives proves he deserves no mercy!

I also like the way Imes discussed lingering doubt, and who is really to blame for any unanswered questions that may remain. Imes is correct... it was Merritt himself.

imo

That was masterful. He addressed the topic at hand (mitigation v aggravation) with the appropriate amount of emotions. He was clear, consice, and logical. This compares very well against the defense's rambling, whiny complaints.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I am confused to why he is going over the case again?

He has been found guilty so why is he going over stuff that says he didn’t do this?


I assumed this would just be about his character not
about saying that there is zero proof and not a single piece of evidence.

That was the huge problem in this case. Charles Merritt was not a man of good character. In fact he had no redeeming qualities at all. A total waste.

Although Maline is good at making crap up, but he knew the jury knows Merritt rips everyone off he has ever met since that came right from the mouth of CJ.

I stopped watching Maline about 5 minutes in, but imo all he did was pizz the jury off.

IMO

 

[Chelly]

So, judge has dental appointment this afternoon? If jury decides on penalty this afternoon, will judge come back to court I wonder? Or will we have to wait until next Tuesday to learn it?

 

[Recidivist]

Judge's dentist appt. was yesterday. Is he going again today?

 

[Cricket28]

That was masterful. He addressed the topic at hand (mitigation v aggravation) with the appropriate amount of emotions. He was clear, consice, and logical. This compares very well against the defense's rambling, whiny complaints.

I'm curious to know why the defense had a mitigation specialist sitting at their table everyday if they didn't even utilize her. Another taxpayer expense I'm sure.

MOO

 

[Tortoise]

Interesting to watch Maline suddenly notice he was not getting positive reaction from the jury, after rehashing the trial. Trying to sew a seed of doubt in what they might see when they are finally allowed to watch the footage of all the parts they were excluded from.

 

[Tortoise]

So, judge has dental appointment this afternoon? If jury decides on penalty this afternoon, will judge come back to court I wonder? Or will we have to wait until next Tuesday to learn it?

Judge's dentist appt. was yesterday. Is he going again today?

No it was just the one, yesterday.

 

[Tortoise]

I'm curious to know why the defense had a mitigation specialist sitting at their table everyday if they didn't even utilize her. Another taxpayer expense I'm sure.

MOO

I'm sure it (the decision not to have witnesses lining up to say what a charming child he was before he turned two) went against her advice, that's why they got his signature on the decision.

JMO

 

[Chelly]

OK..Thanks for clearing up the dental appointment thing.

 

[Tortoise]

OK..Thanks for clearing up the dental appointment thing.

No Chelly, I lost the will to speak since yesterday when the judge announced he had a dentist appointment that afternoon, after they had almost a whole week off just prior. I just about recovered when Maline started with his nonsense.

 

[mrjitty]

I loved how Raj said there is no evidence that Chase did shoddy work or cheated any of his clients or cheated joey or stole money from him. That right there shows the jury what a liar Raj is. I think they will recognise it. JMO

Lmao

Small Suit is so shameless

 

[Chelly]

No Chelly, I lost the will to speak since yesterday when the judge announced he had a dentist appointment that afternoon, after they had almost a whole week off just prior. I just about recovered when Maline started with his nonsense.

Understand what you are saying @Tortoise . I've been watching trials since OJ....on court tv, on live stream and in person. I sometimes pop into our local district court to catch a homocide trial. Having said that, the McStay trial is beyond a doubt the oddest trial I have ever seen. Boggles the mind.

 

[geevee]

Understand what you are saying @Tortoise . I've been watching trials since OJ....on court tv, on live stream and in person. I sometimes pop into our local district court to catch a homocide trial. Having said that, the McStay trial is beyond a doubt the oddest trial I have ever seen. Boggles the mind.

ITA, it certainly is one for the ages. And let's hope never repeated.

 

[Recidivist]

I am surprised there is not a verdict yet.

 

[Chelly]

I am surprised there is not a verdict yet.

Determining whether a man lives or dies is a huge decision. Something that will weigh heavily on every juror for the rest of THEIR lives.