Cindy's Deposition #3 *UPDATED* MOTION FILED

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I agree...

His client is facing Death ...!!

What possible benefit can come from allowing this Lawsuit to go forward?

He's risking everything to gain nothing...!!

This one is easy. It should be a no-brainer win for ZG-of-the-Deposition to win this suit. Once that has happened, we will hear Jose et al singing from the rafters that she will never get a fair trial in Orlando and once again the plea to go to Miami will be entered in. My question is why would they want to get this change of venue going.
 
Chez...I applaude you for being so patient and long suffering explaining the same thing over and over.
 
This one is easy. It should be a no-brainer win for ZG-of-the-Deposition to win this suit. Once that has happened, we will hear Jose et al singing from the rafters that she will never get a fair trial in Orlando and once again the plea to go to Miami will be entered in. My question is why would they want to get this change of venue going.

My understanding is that they are looking for a jury pool who has a cultural background that is different from the defendant's....perhaps, for lack of a better description, devoutly catholic or more likely to revere their mother's and to believe that they are incapable of this kind of crime.

Say, for the sake of argument, JB is looking for a heavily Hispanic jury pool because he feels like he would be closer to peers of his own. (I am not familiar with his background, so I do not know if this is part of his motivation.) I can't help but believe the strategy may backfire simply because I think his client was very calculated in her decision on who to use as a patsy for her crime...again, jmo.
 
You too AZ Lawyer...You have been great! I have learned alot from you both. Now my brain is exploding. LOL
 
I do not think there is a ZFG, and this can be part of how they will get to the truth of the case.
IMHO Jose is an idiot for going along with a counter suit, but then again he was ill advised IMO he has no resume to warrant that he even handle a case like this. But...
The criminal case should go to criminal court, and there may be a FEAR factor here, and Morgan IMO is after something else.
I think now that she ZG is exonerated (the rest is formality and she is in the clear).
I think the rest can wait for the criminal case. I see no hurry for him to get anyone thrown under a bus. It will all come in due time.
I just hope the "A"s stop blaming every Tom Dick and Harry because that is not helping the real case at all.
And if they thought they were broke before this, they may never be less then broke after this. So they need to just go home and wait it out. Till the case begins.
But I do not agree with Morgans agenda.
I see how unlikable the "A"s really are and how they are getting everyone to go against them.
I still do not agree with Morgans line of questioning. This case is not the norm....

Songline---->"he was ill advised". You hit the nail on the head. Indeed he has done nothing right. It all points back to KC. She is the CEO. Even GA told her she was. KC "ILL ADVISED" JB.

There is no underground controlling this mess.
There is no group for the Anthonys to have fear from.
There is no peep/peeps telling JB what to do and when to do it.

Caylee's mother is holding the whole lot of them by a string.
Caylee's mother is the one they fear or should.
Caylee's mother is the one and only one telling JB what to do and when to do it.

JB wasn't the one who was holding Caylee's remains back from CA and GA. It was KC---she is the CEO---the boss.
JB wasn't the one made the decision to make a presser and tell to world that KC wasn't happy that CA had Caylee cremated--that she wanted her to be buried--you could tell he didn't want to read that---but he did--because KC told him to do it---she is the CEO---the boss.
JB didn't cross-file on the ZFG suit because he wanted to--but he did it---because KC told him to do it---she is the CEO---the boss.

As long as KC is in jail-the Anthony's are safe.

If there was somebody out there like, what you keep referring to----KC--CA--GA--LA would be hollerin from the rooftops. CA isn't afraid of the Devil himself and she sure ain't afraid of the law so why would anybody think she would be afraid of some dumb ole bad guy?
 
This one is easy. It should be a no-brainer win for ZG-of-the-Deposition to win this suit. Once that has happened, we will hear Jose et al singing from the rafters that she will never get a fair trial in Orlando and once again the plea to go to Miami will be entered in. My question is why would they want to get this change of venue going.

Ahhh, Miami. Gotcha. Baez views himself as a Hispanic icon. Perhaps he is hoping to appeal to a more Hispanic jury pool. But then, KC points the finger at a "ZFG". :waitasec: So, hmm. Gonna have to think about it more.

ETA: Yeah, what believe09 said. :)
 
Bolded by me, Chezhire.

It is the client's decision as to how aggressively she wishes her attorney to pursue her case. I imagine that ZFG is quite upset about what Casey had to say...and no one should place any blame on her for wanting to move her civil case along as she so desires. It's how our legal system is set up and if a litigant/witness doesn't like it, well then they need to complain that their laws should be changed, etc.

Hello Chezhire,

Could there be a financial benefit for ZG (and Mr. Morgan) to press her case sooner rather than later for fear that KC would have no money left after the criminal case, thus not being able to collect her awarded damages?

If money is being paid on behalf of KC to her defense, are those funds listed as KC's assets and open to seizure?

It would make sense that ZG would want to get a piece of that money before it was sucked dry by KC's defense team (if that's how it works). TIA
 
Bolded by me, Chezhire.

It is the client's decision as to how aggressively she wishes her attorney to pursue her case. I imagine that ZFG is quite upset about what Casey had to say...and no one should place any blame on her for wanting to move her civil case along as she so desires. It's how our legal system is set up and if a litigant/witness doesn't like it, well then they need to complain that their laws should be changed, etc.
That I must agree with :) no two ways about that.
ZG has been aggravated and she may be ready to get even.
Let me rephrase this and add wants to get her name clear, but also fight back for all the name calling and inappropriate behavior by Cindy. Especially by Casey who could have handled this far better.
IF it is her call to go for the gusto, she is certainly doing that.
I can never put any blame on her at all.
Only on the attorney if he is going at a speed to further his own agenda.
Yes I am very reasonable :) when things make sense, when things add up.
But pointing a finger only in one direction because it is the easy way, is not my way.
 
If Morgan has an "agenda" it certainly isn't for publicity; he is already well-known and highly respected in the area, unlike the local players for the defense who have hyped this up and drawn this out to bolster their images and visibility.

I always thought that a good "agenda" would be to allow ZG's civil suit to uncover just how and where this indigent defendant (and perhaps her family) somehow came up with the money to buy herself a dream team. If she is making money off of her dead child and is willing, in the process, to defame and implicate others, then I think it's perfectly justifiable to use a civil suit if it can shed some transparency on her trust and the origin of the money. Viva La Nebbia!
 
That I must agree with :) no two ways about that.
ZG has been aggravated and she may be ready to get even.
IF it is her call to go for the gusto, she is certainly doing that.
I can never put any blame on her at all.
Only on the attorney if he is going at a speed to further his own agenda.
Yes I am very reasonable :) when things make sense, when things add up.
But pointing a finger only in one direction because it is the easy way, is not my way.

Regarding the part I bolded in the quote above:

I really wouldn't qualify this lawsuit as "getting even".

I think it's more a case of ZG rightfully taking advantage of her legal right to defend herself and hold KC responsible for what she inflicted upon her...
 
...and it is Brad C's job to be rational on behalf of his clients and to provide them with sound, rational legal advice.

If the Anthonys had a justifiable belief that they were in any danger, such that any reasonable person would feel that they were in danger (reasonability is typically the test in the courts, "would a reasonable person in the Anthonys shoes be fearful," etc.,) Brad C. should have no problem drafting a Motion For Protective Order that a judge would sign. It's just not that complicated to do.

Specific people don't have to be named - but you do have to provide enough of a rational basis for your clients' fear/beliefs. I once had a client who kept getting horrible phone calls and messages during the pendancy of a case. She was a witness only, so I filed for a protective order on her behalf re: all discovery directed at her, which allowed her to speak without fear that anyone other than the parties to the case would read/hear what she'd said, and said order remained in place throught the pendancy of the proceedings. Since the only people who were, per the court order, to be privy to her statements/deposition were the parties themselves, if she continued getting harrassing/obscene calls about what she said it would be really clear that one of the parties was doing it or had leaked it, which would lead to court ordered subpeonas for everyone's phone records, etc. Have to say, there was nary a PEEP in her direction after that.

It is true that if all someone has is their personal beliefs and cannot with some degree of specificity explain the basis for said beliefs, such as someone stalking them, making threatening phone calls, etc., it does lead to the conclusion that it's simply the person's paranoia, which means that such a motion would be denied, and properly so. Personal paranoia is never a basis for impeding the movement of a civil matter in our legal system (though it might qualify one for a trip to see a psychiatrist/psychologist/therapist... :eek:)

Given your sample of circumstances, that worked, and was right.
Given the situation I when helped someone leave the US - no attorney would have advised her the way, because they can not.
It was only because she succeeded in her escape that after she was brought back, she was sent back home legally by a judge.
I wish I can give the details but the story is much too long. and OT.
BUT if there is someone to fear, and he hears that they are talking behind close doors that may spell danger.
I understand the OJ civil trial but it came after the criminal trial I think that in this case it MAY make a difference.
AND I do say....Maybe Casey is the culprit, and I am open to look at everything, because I do not think any of the "A"s are likable or smart. but I don't have to like them or revere them.
I am only looking at all options in this case, and the many questions that are unanswered. I have a problem seeing Casey pull any of this off by herself. :eek:
If he is within apropreate behaviour as an attorny fine, a lawyer I am not but I am centered. And I am willing to see the entire thing through thoroughly.
I hope that she is not going to end up in jail and then released in 10 years because they made a mistake - because all the "A"s so unlikable, and full of BS.
 
I hope that she is not going to end up in jail and then released in 10 years because they made a mistake - because all the "A"s so unlikable, and full of BS.

Respectfully snipped, my bold and italics. I suppose it is possible for her to be released in 10 years, but not necessarily because she is innocent, but possibly because mistakes were made....'cause honestly I do not believe there is a rush to judgement here. I am waiting for the argument against the evidence in the vehicle, which is the evidence I find the most direct and the least circumstantial. My understanding is the best the defense has is "it's junk science." Not buying it. What are the chances that the child was decomposing in her mother's car for days, and that evidence would be left behind indicating just that? Casey can claim kidnapping all she wants and that all of Orlando uses the same garbage bags, the same dry cleaning bags and the same heart stickers that she does. Caylee was dead in the trunk of the car her mother had complete control over.

BTW, I am not picking on you songline...your posts have me thinking today!!! :blowkiss:
 
How friggin smart do you have to be to murder a defenseless two year old?

Jeez.
 
Oh I forgot, the rocket science part is putting the baby in a trash bag and tossing it in the woods.

Genius I tells ya... genius!

Why I oughta submit Casey's name to the Mensa Society stat!
 
I am glad that you are so confident - since all finger point at Casey it must be Casey WHO did the deed.
I am not confident that she is or is not the culprit.
I am open and staying that way till there is more to find out.

I do not want to see Casey or anyone come out of jail in 10 years with an "INNOCENT" verdict.
too many innocent people come out after 10-26 years but their lives had been spent in prison for no real reason.

If you google that - you will be shocked at how many come out after so many years "INNOCENT" and we do not even know 1/10th of those names, because the case was not big enough to make a big deal over it. :(

She is a ditz, she is not well, but is she a murderer?
I am not ready to say yes or no.


What does this have to do with ZG, CA, GA or the lawsuit? We have all heard your opinion many times on this same subject. May we please move on.
 
How friggin smart do you have to be to murder a defenseless two year old?

Jeez.
All you have to be is a cold hearted stupid or sick person.
But you do have to be smart enough to clear the decks in a way that they can not tie the deed directly to you.
If you can do that much?
IMO the obviouse would have been thought about too.
Like all the things that were found with the baby.
If she was clever enough to escape a finger print etc....
she would have been also clever enough to not bring things from the House/car to the site where the baby was found.
A smart person does not kill. a smart person goes for therapy.
That is what she really needed.
 
Respectfully snipped, my bold and italics. I suppose it is possible for her to be released in 10 years, but not necessarily because she is innocent, but possibly because mistakes were made....'cause honestly I do not believe there is a rush to judgement here. I am waiting for the argument against the evidence in the vehicle, which is the evidence I find the most direct and the least circumstantial. My understanding is the best the defense has is "it's junk science." Not buying it. What are the chances that the child was decomposing in her mother's car for days, and that evidence would be left behind indicating just that? Casey can claim kidnapping all she wants and that all of Orlando uses the same garbage bags, the same dry cleaning bags and the same heart stickers that she does. Caylee was dead in the trunk of the car her mother had complete control over.

BTW, I am not picking on you songline...your posts have me thinking today!!! :blowkiss:
THAT IS TOTLY VALID.. yes there are other compelling things and questions that need to be
addressed. And I too think that the CAR is a huge show and tell.
I'm not sure we will get more on this till the case opens.
But you are so right, there are many things that are not answerd yet.
I do not think she can say she was not driving the car.
She can say it was out of gas and parked. We'll see how much BS she will put out.
YES I do want to hear and see more about the case. there is still much to review.
I have not made up my mind about anything.
I know you are not picking on me :blowkiss:
Thank you for thinking - I love that. :dance:
As they say the mind is the sexiest muscle we have. :)
 
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