Cindy's Inconsistencies

[SusieClue]

Does anyone know how to find the video when Greta was in the Anthony's back yard? I went to the media thread and there is a link that goes to Greta's web site but I can't locate the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eMDQzXM4zU&feature=related
I think this may be it...

 

[EastSideOfSaddness]

Lee is still fully in the picture. He was at the Anthonys as late as yesterday when Casey was released. Everyone thinks that he is okay, I personally think that he is one strange dude. I wouldn't be surprised if he were the brains behind the operation.

I agree, Lee makes me ill with his smirking and asking for his own personal assistant--PLEASEEEEEE, why so he can play HALO all day? I almost gagged when I saw that video of him. Also, the one on 20/20 smirking again--absolutely sickening.

I'm almost regretting ever knowing about this case, my emotions are haywire over it

/end rant

 

[SusieClue]

I agree, Lee makes me ill with his smirking and asking for his own personal assistant--PLEASEEEEEE, why so he can play HALO all day? I almost gagged when I saw that video of him. Also, the one on 20/20 smirking again--absolutely sickening.

I'm almost regretting ever knowing about this case, my emotions are haywire over it

/end rant

OMG EastSide, your pic is KILLING ME! Genius! I too, feel like I am losing more sleep over this case (quantifiable!) than Casey. sick, isn't it?

 

[Brini]

Since this thread is dedicated to insconsistent statements made by the Anthony family (namely Cindy) I thought this would be the proper place to discuss what I am about to say.

Now, before anyone flames me, let me make it clear that, in my opinion, Casey Anthony did kill Caylee (and I don't believe it was an accident) and I am not defending Cindy Anthony at all.

But, if you have children, you know how much you love them and how much of yourself you try to install in them as they grow. Now, imagine for one terrible moment that the child you have loved, nurtured and watched grow into an adult has done something unspeakable. Something in your worst dreams you couldn't imagine...

None of us are living in Cindy's shoes (or George's for that matter) - what shock and horror they must be feeling right now. Most of us, I pray, will never find ourselves in that situation so I don't think we can honestly say how 'we' would react in that situation.

I have always felt that family's in this situation should appoint a "spokesperson" - someone who is NOT a family member. It would be hard enough to pull yourself together everyday in this situation, let alone have a million cameras and microphones thrust in your face everytime you walk out the door.

As I watch Cindy in these interviews, I see someone who is coming to the realization that her daughter is a monster. In the beginning, I think she really wanted to believe Casey (what mother wouldn't). If the 911 tapes didn't exist, I think I would feel different, but hearing Cindy on those tapes makes me believe that she had nothing to do with this. Cindy got caught up in listening to Casey's lies.

Now, after the 911 tapes...could Casey have told her parents and then everyone scrambled? I'm not sure...

I've always thought that Casey told Cindy what appened right after the 911 calls. Cindy went straight into protective spin mode, and as you say, everyone scrambled.

 

[GreenEyes727]

I am on vacation and have finally had a chance to read this thread. Kudos to all here at WS. I think we would all like to be flies on the walls of the Anthony home and the police station, not to mention Jose Baez' office. We will all be experts on lying and body language through the Anthony family.

My mind has finally slowed down and thus, I am able to think and see more clearly on this case. When I woke up the past 2 mornings, this case was on my mind and the facts falling into place.

It is clear to me that:

Barring a miracle, Caylee is no longer with us. It was not an accident, but rather, a planned punishment for Cindy and Caylee. Casey is not capable of remorse, so killing her daughter would not have been a problem. No one has ever found Trenton Duckett, and Casey was apparently involved in following that case, at the very least. I don't know if Trenton is still with us or not either. He has never been seen again. I think there were many times that Casey used Caylee as a weapon (from Nancy Grace last night 9/8/08) but like Mark Hacking, the walls were caving in, the truth was being found out, and punishment needed to follow.

Cindy does more than just coverup for Casey. She lies and so it seems that Casey learned to lie from Cindy. Mental illness runs in this family. Caylee is a victim of her whole family.

 

[Balthazar]

OK, this is really weird. Laughingul posted the Greta van Susteran interview with Cindy where Cindy said:

On The Record on 8/5-
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398490,00.html

....
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes, and we actually need to replace a lot of stuff out here. But yes, this is one of the sheds that we would normally keep locked and normally keep the shovels in, which we do keep the shovels in. This is his toolshed. The lawn mower, you know, weed-whacker, that type of thing, shovels, axes, hoes, anything you do gardening work is locked up in here, like that. I mean, it's a normal shed.

OK, we all know Casey stole gas out of the shed. But look, Cindy says there are shovels in there - so why did Casey BORROW a shovel?

Since I've laid pavers myself, I can tell you it takes a big shovel with a flat blade to create a level bed in the dirt to lay the pavers. You also need a skinny shovel with a pointed blade or a pickaxe to get the sod up. I'm sure George and/or Lee and/or Cindy laid the pavers - obviously they couldn't afford to hire it done. So they would have had all the shovels Casey needed. So why did she borrow a shovel?

 

[SusieClue]

OK, this is really weird. Laughingul posted the Greta van Susteran interview with Cindy where Cindy said:

On The Record on 8/5-
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398490,00.html

....
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes, and we actually need to replace a lot of stuff out here. But yes, this is one of the sheds that we would normally keep locked and normally keep the shovels in, which we do keep the shovels in. This is his toolshed. The lawn mower, you know, weed-whacker, that type of thing, shovels, axes, hoes, anything you do gardening work is locked up in here, like that. I mean, it's a normal shed.

OK, we all know Casey stole gas out of the shed. But look, Cindy says there are shovels in there - so why did Casey BORROW a shovel?

Since I've laid pavers myself, I can tell you it takes a big shovel with a flat blade to create a level bed in the dirt to lay the pavers. You also need a skinny shovel with a pointed blade or a pickaxe to get the sod up. I'm sure George and/or Lee and/or Cindy laid the pavers - obviously they couldn't afford to hire it done. So they would have had all the shovels Casey needed. So why did she borrow a shovel?

The shed was locked and she couldn't get in.

 

[Balthazar]

Look at what George says about when the shed was broken into and the gas cans stolen:

GEORGE ANTHONY: Two, the 2-and-a-half-gallon and one about a gallon- and-a-quarter, something like that.
VAN SUSTEREN: Now, you made the report on June 24, though. That's when you noticed it. Do you remember when you last were in there, so you have some sort of window of when that could have happened?
GEORGE ANTHONY: It could have been Sunday. I believe I was in there Sunday. I don't believe I was in there the day before that, like, on the 23rd. I'm almost positive it's a Sunday.
VAN SUSTEREN: So the Sunday the 23rd, you might have been in there?
CINDY ANTHONY: Well, Sunday would have been the 22nd.
VAN SUSTEREN: All right. So as best you can tell, it happened between the 22nd and the 24th. someone broke in there.
GEORGE ANTHONY: Uh-huh.

The neighbor who says Casey borrowed the shovel couldn't remember what date. He thought maybe June 16 but wasn't sure about the date. Which is odd because he said it was just after he came back from a trip - didn't he have receipts?

Whoever broke into the shed damaged the doors. So perhaps the neighbor was confused and Casey borrowed the shovel on the 24th June to get into the shed and that's why she only kept it 45 minutes or so?

 

[redtailhawk]

Hi all-
I am a new poster- mostly because I noticed this inconsistency and have not seen anyone else post it.

The police report from 6/24 states that the gas cans were $20 and contained $50 worth of gas- but on On The Record on 8/5-
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398490,00.html

....
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes, and we actually need to replace a lot of stuff out here. But yes, this is one of the sheds that we would normally keep locked and normally keep the shovels in, which we do keep the shovels in. This is his toolshed. The lawn mower, you know, weed-whacker, that type of thing, shovels, axes, hoes, anything you do gardening work is locked up in here, like that. I mean, it's a normal shed.

VAN SUSTEREN: Was something reported stolen from this, though?

CINDY ANTHONY: Yes, gas cans.

VAN SUSTEREN: When was that report made that gas cans were stolen?

CINDY ANTHONY: You'd have to ask George.

VAN SUSTEREN: Was that, though, before Caylee was -- had been reported missing or after, that the gas cans...

CINDY ANTHONY: That was before.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Absolutely.

VAN SUSTEREN: And gas cans were -- how many gas cans?

GEORGE ANTHONY: Two, the 2-and-a-half-gallon and one about a gallon- and-a-quarter, something like that.


....

So- if you believe that- then MAYBE 4 gallons of gas were stolen. I know it is expensive- but more than $12 a gallon?

Did anyone else notice this?

Yes, I noticed that too and mentioned it in the gascan thread. My wondering was if the gas cans were all that George saw when he went into Casey's trunk??? I remembered this being the 24th of June? Could Caylee have been in the trunk then?

Another possible inconsistancy that keeps bugging me is that Cindy says she was in constant contact but on the 17th & 18th of June when there was the "flurry of phone calls" from Casey's phone, it appears she couldn't reach either George or Cindy at home, work or cell????

Hmmmm

 

[karenmamo]

Lee is still fully in the picture. He was at the Anthonys as late as yesterday when Casey was released. Everyone thinks that he is okay, I personally think that he is one strange dude. I wouldn't be surprised if he were the brains behind the operation.

...and THAT could account for the odd phone call between brother and sister from the jail???
He was talking with her about the phone...he asked about working, or for fun or the 'other.' He understood what the 'other' was all about.
He may not be the brains behind the operation, but it is possible that he caught up really quickly.

Many thought he was working with LE at one point.
Is it possible LE was playing him???

My thoughts are really scrambled this morning.

 

[TotallyObsessed]

I found this from an interview with a FOX reporter and Cindy from back in July. It shows me that she and her daughter are cut from the same mold. Sort of like “well you aren’t paying any attention to me and my cockamamie story, I’ll show you......I’ll get rid of any evidence there might be and then you’ll be sorry.”

Does anybody else see that? Or is it me?

CYNTHIA ANTHONY: I don't know. I mean, they had receipts that could have traced my daughter's last actions for the last month. They didn't want them. They didn't even want to go through any of her personal things. It's too late now, guys. I've already put her stuff away. So you know, I let it sit out in her bedroom for the last week-and-a-half, and no one's wanted to comb through any of the stuff that we took from the apartment.
FRANCO: Talk to us about the receipts. What kind of receipts did the Orange County sheriff...
CYNTHIA ANTHONY: She has receipts from going to the grocery story, from going shopping, from doing whatever. They could have went back at the stores to see if Caylee was with her. They could have done a whole lot of things. They haven't -- you know, they didn't. So it's too late now to go back. I don't have those anymore.

MORE EVIDENCE SHE DESTROYED

 

[tttterri]

There is actually a term for what Cindy does, can't think of the name of it at the moment, saw it on Greta or NG.

Basically when Cindy is faced with the truth she turns it around in another direction. Hopefully someone remembers the term used as I am BLANK!

Just the other night when NG ask Cindy to release the phone records and Cindy turned into searches or some other direction.

I believe it is about time for Cindy to release another "direction". Yesterday she IMO released the part about the argument and what it was over, but that is her version. I believe IMO she left out the part Casey had told everybody about George cheating on her. Cindy denied it to Amy and to the press, but the divorce records and other things seem to indicate it as possibly having meaning. Casey even told Tony that she hated her father. What did he do to make her use such an expression? I havent seen that she hates anyone else.

 

[Theonly1]

I found this from an interview with a FOX reporter and Cindy from back in July. It shows me that she and her daughter are cut from the same mold. Sort of like “well you aren’t paying any attention to me and my cockamamie story, I’ll show you......I’ll get rid of any evidence there might be and then you’ll be sorry.”

Does anybody else see that? Or is it me?

CYNTHIA ANTHONY: I don't know. I mean, they had receipts that could have traced my daughter's last actions for the last month. They didn't want them. They didn't even want to go through any of her personal things. It's too late now, guys. I've already put her stuff away. So you know, I let it sit out in her bedroom for the last week-and-a-half, and no one's wanted to comb through any of the stuff that we took from the apartment.
FRANCO: Talk to us about the receipts. What kind of receipts did the Orange County sheriff...
CYNTHIA ANTHONY: She has receipts from going to the grocery story, from going shopping, from doing whatever. They could have went back at the stores to see if Caylee was with her. They could have done a whole lot of things. They haven't -- you know, they didn't. So it's too late now to go back. I don't have those anymore.

MORE EVIDENCE SHE DESTROYED

I remember that. It was about the time my hinky meter was ding ding dinging. If your granddaughter is "missing" would you not be concerned and willing to keep potential evidence around to give LE (even if they can't come and get it right away which btw I don't believe). In my opinion, this is simply a cover. What's the big deal about a pile or two of receipts, books, clothes or whatever?

 

[Fandy]

Cindy has pretty much been quiet since taking on the new attorney for her and George. I would think (jmo) that he has advised them to both keep quiet, which doesn't take into account George's last outburst.

One of the most insightful statements from Leonard Padilla was that the tensions were very high in that house. I keep waiting for something else to happen when one of them snaps.

 

[carole]

I believe it is about time for Cindy to release another "direction". Yesterday she IMO released the part about the argument and what it was over, but that is her version. I believe IMO she left out the part Casey had told everybody about George cheating on her. Cindy denied it to Amy and to the press, but the divorce records and other things seem to indicate it as possibly having meaning. Casey even told Tony that she hated her father. What did he do to make her use such an expression? I havent seen that she hates anyone else.

I think the term was called "undoing".

I found the following definition at http://www.planetpsych.com/zPsychology_101/defense_mechanisms.htm

Undoing is the attempt to take back behavior or thoughts that are unacceptable. An example of undoing would be excessively praising someone after having insulted them.

 

[Friptzap]

I was reviewing some Larry King transcripts and she states this:

CINDY ANTHONY: Well let me tell you why I say that. It's because they told us there was one person in central Florida with that name. In fact there's nine in central Florida. I just got a phone call on my way here that there's four in Fort Lauderdale and my daughter said that this girl had a Fort Lauderdale number and has connections in Fort Lauderdale and New York, and New Jersey.
In every state, there's people by this name. They think she's smart enough to make up this person for the last two and a half years, but dumb enough to park a car where in plain sight that her mother would drive by twice a day and see and leave her purse in the front seat of the car and not drive it into some lake.
So, my daughter is not a murder. My granddaughter is missing. My granddaughter is missing.

The part I am concerned with is this:
"but dumb enough to park a car where in plain sight that her mother would drive by twice a day and see"

Is she telling us she SAW this car at Amscot twice a day?

WTH! There has to be more to this. Why make this comment???? and elude to her doing this in lieu of driving it into the lake? Did they WANT the car towed?

It sounds like she knew the car was there the whole time?
This is purely speculation based on her own statements I am not trying to implicate her in any way merely trying to figure out why her comment was made, it seems to me she knew this car was parked there the only other possibility is that she was eluding that she eventually would see it there twice a day?

Seems odd to elude that eventually she would have seen it while trying to prove her daughter to not be this “smart person” everyone is making her out to be because she would then be smarter than someone whom would leave a vehicle that smells of decomposition parked in a spot with the purse inside in a location that she (her mother) would see it twice a day rather than dump it into a lake which is what a “smart person” would do. Eluding that she had actually seen it twice a day perhaps? But why not do something?

Broken down this whole statement is to imply that everyone thinks Casey is smart enough to make up this person for 2 1/2 years (Casey actually claimed 4) but dumb enough to park a car with a decomposition smell in a spot that she herself would see it twice a day rather than drive it into a lake.

So she is proposing her daughter is innocent and not smart enough to pull the wool over everyone’s eyes with lies for the past two years because she was dumb and parked her car where she (Cindy) could see it twice a day?
So she must have seen this car parked there twice a day, if not why say twice a day?

Merely speculation on my part I do not wish to imply anything at all except that I find her comments very telling and I think if OCSO has not picked up on this I hope they do. This somehow seems important, if she did see this car there for how long? June 27 is a Friday June 30 is a Monday.

She always talks of red flags I think if she saw this car there prior to it being towed that should have been a major red flag, why wait for it to be towed? Why make this comment trying to prove Casey dumb enough to park a car, where in plain sight her mother would drive by twice a day, If she is implying the "future" possibility of seeing that car when in a short period of time on almost ANY car lot these days it would be towed anyway?

Am I stretching? Or could there be more to this? Protecting her perhaps? She seems to know more than she reveals in one sitting, a little seems to come out each time she talks.

 

[newuser]

I really like reading everyone's theories, speaking for myself. This case is so difficult to comprehend, and I am very interested in how everyone else is thinking.

 

[mommya]

Yeah - I still can't figure it out - but weren't George and Cindy gone when the car was abandoned - so maybe Cindy hadn't been on her regular driving Route during that time in order to see the car parked there?
I'm not sure on those dates when they were on vacation.

It's still so wierd. Unless Casey truly ran out of gas and just ended up in that spot - why would she have left it at a place that Cindy would have driven by?

She wanted Cindy to see it for some reason?

 

[princess]

Is she telling us she SAW this car at Amscot twice a day?

Geez..I would hope not..but if so..did they stop by and look in the car..did they look in the trunk?.. I know as a Mom I would....

Very interesting....

 

[tbthow]

I think you have valid points. This case is everywhere so many views because they all talk in circles. :doh: