Clinton David Brink, 43 & Cristen Amanda Brink, 41 found on trail - Devil's Den State Park, AR- 26 July, 2025 #2 *Arrest*

[Woolly]

With school so close to starting there, I imagine that there is a class full of students getting ready to start the year who woke up to the news that their new teacher had been arrested for murder. Yes, they are saved from actually having him as a teacher, but that is still horrifying to consider for those kids and their families!

 

[AngTxGal]

With school so close to starting there, I imagine that there is a class full of students getting ready to start the year who woke up to the news that their new teacher had been arrested for murder. Yes, they are saved from actually having him as a teacher, but that is still horrifying to consider for those kids and their families!

Yes, that thought has not escaped me.
Parents will be talking about it so no way the kids don’t find out. If one finds out they will tell the others eventually.
Some principals have teachers write handwritten cards to each of the kids in their class and send them through the mail a few weeks before school starts.
So- this class of kids could have a handwritten note sitting at home from this murderer.

That is incredibly creepy
IMO

 

[Ghostwheel]

I know this is so far down the list of things to wonder about, but can someone explain the curls in the 2nd mug shot? He went in the salon with straight hair…

I’m confused

Personal opinion is that he had been wearing a hat, which flattens the hair. He would have been sent through the shower when arrested. If he has hair like mine, if it gets wet and doesn't get combed, it curls just like that. They really don't need his hair for a DNA match. JMO.

 

[Cedars]

At the press conference, LE said they matched DNA from blood at the crime scene to the suspect, but they didn’t say, or I didn’t hear them say, what they matched it to.
Was the killer’s DNA already in a database for some reason and they got a hit when they ran the crime scene DNA through?
Did they narrow down the suspect to those owning KIA Stingers and go trash diving to get DNA from them all to compare?

They said today they had just received confirmation of the match, ie they swabbed him after his arrest yesterday.

Yes, the head of state police said they determined the exact type of vehicle and examined all ownership records, found his name - obviously a top suspect - and within the hour saw the vehicle outside the salon. They arrested him on the basis of the cut marks on him. IMO then he admitted to the crime so they went ahead and charged him.

I think determining the exact make and model of the car would have involved high tech manipulation of the various videos available, sent through FBIs experts and databases on matching vehicles.

JMO

 

[GlassCityRx]

Just have to pause a moment to say the discussions on this thread have been really great. I am learning quite a bit and I appreciate how, collectively, we are theorizing, re-thinking, gathering new info, sharing knowledge, etc.

Good group here.

jmopinion

That’s a good statement to acknowledge. I’ve learned a lot years ago by just listening. It’s weird that many people I agree with are the same names I recognize like 10 years ago. Those girls back in Evansdale was horrific for me.

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[justtrish]

I also wondered if parents are helping him out?
If he is from OK, then maybe he is staying a certain distance from relatives with all his positions?

I’d never heard of a Kia Stinger until this case, so I don’t know if that is a new model or if he could have picked one up used. Maybe he got it when he graduated from college?
I just checked Google- the first Kia Stinger models were 2018.

My guesses
First teaching job 22-23
Entered college 2015-2019
Graduated high school 2015- He is 28 and high school grads are near 18 years old.

He must not have graduated from college in four years?
Or he did something else before he took his first teaching job. I’m not sure what you can do with a degree in Elementary Education besides teach.

IMO

COVID happened in 2020 so maybe difficulty getting a teaching job when everyone was going home to do school?

 

[AngTxGal]

In the Fox 5 San Diego article below, the parent of a past pupil describes him as NOT very personable:
"...Sierra Marcum said three years ago, her son was a student in McGann’s fourth grade classroom in Flower Mound, Texas, and described him as the “most standoff teacher she had ever met.” ..."Pretty cold. You could ask him a question and he would give you a one word response,” she said. “Overall just pretty disinterested in his students....”"

https://fox5sandiego.com/news/teacher-charged-with-killing-couple-who-were-hiking-in-arkansas-park-with-their-kids/

Imagine the impact on children to have a teacher that is ‘disinterested’ in you for an entire year.
Any attention he gave those little girls would make them feel more comfortable if he was cold and distant.
What did he do during evaluations, a new teacher would be on probation and be evaluated. Admin would come sit in their classroom.
Surely someone could see that the kids were uncomfortable?

IMO

 

[OneLove]

I don’t see how he could do that on his own using only his teacher salary.
He would need a down payment and that would be more than half of his income on house payment.
And he is likely still paying on that Kia Stinger.

I wonder if he has a side hustle?

IMO

Drug drop gone terribly wrong?

 

[AngTxGal]

Just have to pause a moment to say the discussions on this thread have been really great. I am learning quite a bit and I appreciate how, collectively, we are theorizing, re-thinking, gathering new info, sharing knowledge, etc.

Good group here.

jmopinion

Absolutely agree, as horrific as this case is chatting with others trying to figure it out is quite helpful. I too am learning a great deal from all the different perspectives and questions.

And my guy is out of state, so I don’t have to watch his eyes roll back into his head if I try to talk it out with him. I’ve completely disappeared in the rabbit hole.

It is a good group

IMO

 

[The Zookeeper]

Absolutely agree, as horrific as this case is chatting with others trying to figure it out is quite helpful. I too am learning a great deal from all the different perspectives and questions.

And my guy is out of state, so I don’t have to watch his eyes roll back into his head if I try to talk it out with him. I’ve completely disappeared in the rabbit hole.

It is a good group

IMO

I laughed out loud when you said “I don’t have to watch his eyes roll back in his head.” My husband does the same thing!

 

[CuriousCricket]

After listening to the hairstylist, I'm getting a different perspective of him.

I assumed he would have a "mask" of an affable school teacher. But the stylist said he was scary and soulless, which is not a huge surprise for a double-murderer. The surprise is he didn't want to or couldn't pretend to be sociable and friendly in an atmosphere where it's normal to be at least a little friendly.

Now I'm wondering if he isn't intelligent? I know he would have to be for his career, but I guess I thought he'd present himself better, to be able to fake sociability.

If LE asked, "Did you kill them?" did he answer "yes" because he's kinda dumb?

Is he all there?

(Yes, I know his crimes indicate he isn't "all there," but I hope ykwim.)

Sorry for all the random, rambly thoughts.

jmopinion

The hairdresser also said: " He was very timid, he was always with his head down, long hair covering his face."

My guess would be that none of us know how we would react after killing two people. It's not been a week yet. Perhaps the event has really affected him?

'Soulless' | Springdale hairstylist recalls moment when Devil's Den murder suspect was arrested

Adriana said while difficult to describe, McGann's eyes looked sunken, or even "soulless," and he refused to sign in at the salon.

www.thv11.com

 

[gremlin444]

https://www.kark.com/crime/former-teammate-recounts-shock-after-arrest-of-suspect-in-devils-den-double-homicide/

But here we have a discrepancy in dates of high school. This ex teammate says he was at school with him from 2016-2018.

I can probably find stuff in Fenwick archives to get the correct dates.

Multiple years playing rugby makes me wonder about any potential for TBI (traumatic brain injury).

 

[AngTxGal]

https://www.kark.com/crime/former-teammate-recounts-shock-after-arrest-of-suspect-in-devils-den-double-homicide/

But here we have a discrepancy in dates of high school. This ex teammate says he was at school with him from 2016-2018.

I can probably find stuff in Fenwick archives to get the correct dates.

Did he play in college?
If he is 28, then he would be 18 around 2015 and that is near high school grad age.

IMO

 

[darkstar105]

So the car WAS a Kia Stinger after all: Police: McGann admitted to killing the couple, DNA match found at the scene

 

[airportwoman]

Yes, that thought has not escaped me.
Parents will be talking about it so no way the kids don’t find out. If one finds out they will tell the others eventually.
Some principals have teachers write handwritten cards to each of the kids in their class and send them through the mail a few weeks before school starts.
So- this class of kids could have a handwritten note sitting at home from this murderer.

That is incredibly creepy
IMO

All of the parents at the Texas school where he taught got a letter from the school describing what had happened, and that counseling would be available to anyone who needs it. The text is in this link below.

Don't forget that kids will also hear these stories from older siblings, and other people who are around them.

The man charged in this deadly park attack once taught 4th grade in Texas

A Texas connection to a double murder case that shocked a state park.

www.khou.com

 

[mlhenn]

Yes I think that is right, Arkansas and Oklahoma have agreements with teacher licenses, a person wouldn’t have to take another test to get licensed as their certification requirements are similar.

That’s correct but when getting his AR licensure in October 2024 he still had to go through the full background check, child maltreatment, and finger printing.

It appears his last “Employability Check” for AR was done on July 15 2025 and the status is “Under Review”

Search

aels.ade.arkansas.gov

 

[Interested_But_Confused]

I'm in the UK where Rugby is common in schools, but is it a common sport in schools in the USA? Or would you need to attend a more specialist school to play it?

 

[marloweclover]

OSU-Tulsa appears to be an urban branch of the main campus at Stillwater, designed for people with full-time day jobs. It only takes transfer admissions and only offers upper division and graduate classes; you get your first two years of credits somewhere else, like community college. They only offer classes in late afternoon and at night. No sports.

About OSU-Tulsa - Oklahoma State University

 

[LadyL]

I know this is so far down the list of things to wonder about, but can someone explain the curls in the 2nd mug shot? He went in the salon with straight hair…

I’m confused

if it got wet from sweat, the curls would come back


ETA: I just saw and added the other booking photo

What happens now that Andrew McGann was arrested in connection with the Devil's Den murders

Prosecutors tell 5NEWS McGann could be in court as early as Friday morning.

www.5newsonline.com

 

[fred&edna]

It will be interesting to hear what his psychiatric evaluation reveals. Many patients with mental illnesses, even schizophrenia, are very intelligent. Many younger people don’t show signs of a severe mental illness until their late teens or early 20’s. When a patient is psychotic, they can hear “voices” that tell them to do things (like hurt or even kill themselves or others) that they would never think of when they are not in an episode of psychosis. I’ve had patients who were very distressed to hear of things they had said or done while psychotic, and had no memory of it. It’s possible that Andrew had symptoms of mental illness but it had not been identified and treated yet. Or, he could have a history of mental illness and non-compliance with his medication. The fact that he had a cat that he apparently cared for very much, and that there are reports that he was described by a classmate as a “normal guy” make me lean towards him not exhibiting sociopathic traits. I am in no way excusing his heinous crimes, I just always look at it first as a possible mental illness, which a patient may not have full control over. My heart breaks for this poor family and the three girls left without their loving parents. No one should have to endure this. Yet I also have empathy for the mentally ill who never chose to have this terrible sickness. But, again this is my humble opinion only and I am interested to see what the situation turns out to be in this very, very sad case.

does mcgann have an attorney, yet. unless, he exhibits behaviors while in custody that suggest a reasonable suspicion of mental illness, i don't see a psych eval anytime soon. seems it would take his legal counsel to have an evaluation... which i suppose could take place soon after arraignment. i'm not a lawyer so this is all jmo/guesses.

eta... maybe his attorney will have psychiatrist ready next week, and maybe that's soon enough.