Clinton David Brink, 43 & Cristen Amanda Brink, 41 found on trail - Devil's Den State Park, AR- 26 July, 2025 #2 *Arrest*

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I read that he graduated from college in Oklahoma, I can’t remember if it was Oklahoma State or University of Oklahoma.
Both have rugby teams, so maybe he played in college after high school.

Someone wondered about head injury playing rugby, yeah I think so. I don’t know a lot about rugby but I’ve played flag football and even it can become a contact sport. I can’t imagine rugby.

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I'm in the UK where rugby is pretty popular, and it's a very easy sport to get injured in even at the lower levels (my cousin had at least one surgery for a severely broken bone as a kid, for example). I went to the women's Oxford v Cambridge game a few years ago, and one player was knocked unconscious and another dislocated her shoulder
 
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The girls found their way to another hiker, who got the girls off the trail, then hiked to find the girls' parents. When the hiker found the two bodies, they hiked back off the trail to get cell service and called the police.

One witness told police they had seen a person come off the trail with what looked like blood on his face.
 
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On July 30, police found 28-year-old Andrew McGann getting his hair cut at Lupita's Beauty Salon and Barber Shop in Springdale when he was located and arrested.

McGann told police he owned the Kia Stinger parked out front and allowed investigators to enter his car, where they found what was possibly blood. The report added that police observed cuts on McGann's hands when they found him at the salon.

After his arrest, McGann was taken to the ASP Troop L Headquarters, where he "made statements indicating that he had committed the two homicides," the report said.

The report added that McGann "waited with deliberated purpose."
 
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All of the parents at the Texas school where he taught got a letter from the school describing what had happened, and that counseling would be available to anyone who needs it. The text is in this link below.

Don't forget that kids will also hear these stories from older siblings, and other people who are around them.

Those kids are middle schoolers now, they have access to their own electronic devices and will see the new themselves.
 
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This is the moment on Wednesday when Devil's Den State Park double homicide suspect pulled up to and walked into a Springdale, AR beauty shop for a haircut:

Source is a KNWA journalist.

The guy had no curls when he walked in. His hair was combed down his forehead.
In his second (curly haired) mugshot he looks like he has scratches on his nose and forehead (or it could be a rash).
 
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Great that he was getting a haircut and so some of his hair would be on the floor and LE could take it to do DNA testing. They wouldn't have been able to get a hair sample for DNA once arrested.
From the cut hair they would be able to get only mtDNA though. Not the unique profile that comes from nuclear DNA.
 
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I'm in the UK where Rugby is common in schools, but is it a common sport in schools in the USA? Or would you need to attend a more specialist school to play it?
Was in my area of Colorado since the early 70’s

Stepsons played in college in Oklahoma in the late 90’s
 
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I'm in the UK where rugby is pretty popular, and it's a very easy sport to get injured in even at the lower levels (my cousin had at least one surgery for a severely broken bone as a kid, for example). I went to the women's Oxford v Cambridge game a few years ago, and one player was knocked unconscious and another dislocated her shoulder
Yes, the players get hurt. In the four years my son played in college, there were definitely injuries on the team and at least one player got a concussion.

But, with a club sport, when players get injured, they don't keep playing. It's not that type of atmosphere, that I noticed, like a high-stakes sports team for the school or a professional team. Student players wait until healed before playing again.

So, while it's reasonable to think he might have gotten a concussion while playing, I don't think he would've gotten them over and over again. Maybe one is enough? IDK.

jmopinion
 
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Depending on the circumstances of the admission (like if it was made without a lawyer being present), I assume the defense could try and get it ruled inadmissible in court?
Also, if he'd been read his Miranda rights.
 
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It is haunting how deeply *angry* his expression is in so many pics. Im hoping those who've known him before his teaching years will find Websleuths and give us a glimpse of his earlier years. He seems like such a loner but may actually have a rich "other life" in his mind or online. The report of his cold clipped one word answers to parents of students who tried to converse with him might indicate he was *somewhere else" in his own mind while working.
A man assaulted me once at a Walmart & the stare in his eyes was like he was playing a video in his mind & almost unaware of even being inside a Walmart store. He turned out to be BTK the serial killer (i was soooo lucky that day) and he later said that's exactly what he did in his mind when stalking each woman. I'd like to know if Andy McGann fantasized so much he was nearly dysfunctional at his schools and also what happened that made him walk around so angry and off-putting. Angry to timid might be a regular pendulum swing for him? Keeping company at lunch with little girls in his classrooms might be his "social scene" comfort zone and if so, yeah, I'm guessing we'll see his attorney come out swinging with a tbi defense. It could be why he cant/hasn't been able to keep a job more than a year. There are tons of ways in which tbi can render one incompetent in each of the jobs he's had.
Are you just saying here that his lawyer may decide to use TBI (ie the Richard Allen kind with quotes included) as a strategy or are you saying there's actually reason to believe he has TBI?
 
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It is haunting how deeply *angry* his expression is in so many pics. Im hoping those who've known him before his teaching years will find Websleuths and give us a glimpse of his earlier years. He seems like such a loner but may actually have a rich "other life" in his mind or online. The report of his cold clipped one word answers to parents of students who tried to converse with him might indicate he was *somewhere else" in his own mind while working.
A man assaulted me once at a Walmart & the stare in his eyes was like he was playing a video in his mind & almost unaware of even being inside a Walmart store. He turned out to be BTK the serial killer (i was soooo lucky that day) and he later said that's exactly what he did in his mind when stalking each woman. I'd like to know if Andy McGann fantasized so much he was nearly dysfunctional at his schools and also what happened that made him walk around so angry and off-putting. Angry to timid might be a regular pendulum swing for him? Keeping company at lunch with little girls in his classrooms might be his "social scene" comfort zone and if so, yeah, I'm guessing we'll see his attorney come out swinging with a tbi defense. It could be why he cant/hasn't been able to keep a job more than a year. There are tons of ways in which tbi can render one incompetent in each of the jobs he's had.

I’m thinking he may have been hyped up on something? He worked himself up to carry out a diabolical plan and it went wrong and he lost it?

Of course I’m thinking the who was random, but the goal was premeditated and that goal was not murder. Jmo

Many professions require drug testing, teaching is not one of those professions.
We do know they have plenty of hair to run tests, and likely took cheek swabs, and blood.
This info probably won’t come out until trial.

I’ve worked with people who suffered an intense trauma, spouse killed in a car accident, and their affect became flat- they looked right through you. Reactions were abnormal if at all, and slowed down to a processing crawl.
His state and affect the hair dresser describes and the arrest video seems like this, which is completely opposite of what I would imagine during the murders.

I’m confuzzled for sure- I suppose a person who is bipolar could swing like that
Someone will have to chime in and enlighten us
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This is going to turn out to be really bizarre, IMO. Even more bizarre than it already is.
RSBM
I would love for you to opine further. Seems you have intriging observations.
 
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I’m thinking he may have been hyped up on something? He worked himself up to carry out a diabolical plan and it went wrong and he lost it?

Of course I’m thinking the who was random, but the goal was premeditated and that goal was not murder. Jmo

Many professions require drug testing, teaching is not one of those professions.
We do know they have plenty of hair to run tests, and likely took cheek swabs, and blood.
This info probably won’t come out until trial.

I’ve worked with people who suffered an intense trauma, spouse killed in a car accident, and their affect became flat- they looked right through you. Reactions were abnormal if at all, and slowed down to a processing crawl.
This state seemed where he was at the hair dresser, which is completely opposite of what I would imagine during the murders.

I’m confuzzled for sure
IMO
Really good point about testing the hair for drugs.

I'm wondering if LE would be able to take a hair sample if he didn't consent to providing hair?? But "discarded" hair on the floor of the salon is fair game. If so....wow, what a strange, lucky break to arrest him at the salon.

jmopinion
 
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I was thinking the same thing.

What about insanity defense?
For insanity a defense attorney would have to show he does not know the difference between right and wrong.
The is evidence that he does
Conceal identity with clothing
His fleeing the scene of the crime
Asking for a haircut that covers his face

It is possible he is nuts, but I don’t think he would qualify for Criminally Insane.

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This is the moment on Wednesday when Devil's Den State Park double homicide suspect pulled up to and walked into a Springdale, AR beauty shop for a haircut:

Source is a KNWA journalist.

The guy had no curls when he walked in. His hair was combed down his forehead.
In his second (curly haired) mugshot he looks like he has scratches on his nose and forehead (or it could be a rash).

Hands in his pockets entering the barber shop trying to hide his cuts.
 
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Hands in his pockets entering the barber shop trying to hide his cuts.
Aha. I was thinking he didn't want to sign his name at the salon reception desk because he didn't want to give that information. But maybe he just didn't want to reveal his hand injuries. He could, after all, use a different name. DREW has experience with that, right ANDY?

But hand injuries are not a crime. People get injuries. Wanting to hide the injuries shows he knows what he did was wrong. imo

jmo
 
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A 28-year-old teacher has admitted to murdering the married couple found stabbed to death on a walking trail in an Arkansas park over the weekend in what appears to be a "completely random" attack, police said.

Andrew James McGann, 28, of Springdale, Arkansas, was charged with two counts of capital murder.

His former teacher status in Lewisville, which is just north of Dallas/Fort Worth Texas has not been missed, what a way to end the summer and send kids back to school!

CBS News Texas- Murderer former Lewisville Teacher Texas Board of Education Response

I heard ASP say in the press conference they had no evidence that the little girls were a target, my guess is they seem to have reasons not to disclose these suspicions. What are the odds?

Keeping these little girls in my thoughts, and all of his former students
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So on the previous thread here on WS I speculated as crazy as it would be that maybe the image LE released of McGann was in fact in terms of timeline of events actually from *after* the murders had taken place. I thought this was perhaps the case because of the empty duffle and previous witnesses saying his totes were filled with items. Not dying on that hill by any means, however its interesting to note this lack of care or awareness even that he could be caught mere days after his offenses. The only things he actually did in terms of evading capture that I can tell is obscuring his license plate and leaving the park in a rush (but I don't know the actual timeline on that either.)

His lax demeanor once apprehended and lack of attempts to conceal his vehicle beyond leaving the park, covering his plate and then even going to get his hairs cut could be consistent with the behavior of someone who might not necessarily prioritize leaving the scene immediately after his heinous act. Still just a thought and not saying its for sure or anything.
 
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