Clinton David Brink, 43 & Cristen Amanda Brink, 41 found on trail - Devil's Den State Park, AR- 26 July, 2025 #2 *Arrest*

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Bolded text also stood out to me.

I’m always a bit surprised when people with seemingly normal lives go off the rails but sadly it isn’t rare.

 

[indicolite22]

He criticized the messaging, not the investigation. He is a local resident, other local residents who were at the park called him. They shared tips with him because the TipLine didn’t work, it wasn’t fixed until Tuesday.

Did people calling him tip off the suspect? No, he was driving the same car in the city where he lived and went to get a haircut. He didn’t run.

The critics in the community were upset about the lack of communication, and calling him. It was the community, not just a PodCaster. He is a local, he lives there.

IMO

Another problem was him speaking to a 911 dispatcher.

 

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[justtrish]

Actually, one case is similar - Delphi. There was nothing to indicate Bridge Guy to be a troubled person who would murder two teens on a trail on a random afternoon, but he did. The only "red flag" was maybe a drinking issue. He drove home and continued his regular life too, after a double murder. Ordinary guy who killed ordinary strangers in an ordinary setting on an ordinary day.

In the Delphi case, I kept thinking something big was going to drop to explain the crime. But, nope. Didn't happen.

jmopinion

Good one!

I also recall Richard Allen hopping around jobs a bit IIRC. He was either hot or cold with how others described him. Some said he was quiet and stand offish, others said he sorta made inappropriate comments, others said he was nice.

I think RA never killed again because he could live right in that town and get a power trip off knowing nobody knew it was him. He could watch the entire town be afraid of the boogey man and all along he was the boogey man.

Maybe this guy here was going to be similar. If he got away with this crime and he lived right there, he could have a front row seat to everyone being afraid of the killer in the woods and he could relive his crime without committing another one.

 

[AngTxGal]

Another problem was him speaking to a 911 dispatcher.

Exactly, and in a vacuum where the public is not getting information and they feel they are danger, they are going to attempt to protect themselves.
That is what humans do when afraid, they fill the void.

We now know he was working alone, and didn’t attack someone else, and hadn’t already hurt some other people, and wasn’t baracaded with weapons, or on the run in another state.
The public did not know that until Wed evening or Thursday morning.

Tell the public- We have leads and have contacted multiple agencies and are working on it. Thank you for your tips, here is a new TipLine that works better. Please don’t share information to social media- call the line instead. We will update you when we have more information.

That is my take on the situation- and the sentiment I heard from the callers and my family in the area.
IMO

 

[gremlin444]

From link in quoted post:

"...public online archives in Illinois indicate that he (McGann) was a student at Oak Park’s Fenwick High School, from which he graduated in 2015 before moving out of state."



Oak Park is a nice neighborhood. The tuition for Fenwick is $18,750, which obviously wouldn't be the same as ten years ago, but we can get a sense of the cost. There is financial assistance available.

Fenwick has a rugby team as a club sport.

Fenwick High School | Private Catholic College Prep school in Oak Park, IL

Fenwick High School, sponsored by the Dominican Friars (Order of Preachers) from the Province of St. Albert the Great, has been equipping young people with the tools necessary for successful, meaningful and faith-filled lives since 1929.

www.fenwickfriars.com

jmopinion

ETA: Oak Park is where his high school was, it's a suburb just west of Chicago. The perp didn't live in Oak Park that we know of. His residence as written in the article was on SW side of Chicago.

Yup, I posted about this last night. I live in Oak Park. According to the WGNTV article I posted, he lived in the Garfield Ridge neighborhood of Chicago, which is actually south of Oak Park in about a 30 min drive with no traffic (Chicago proper is shaped quite oddly has all these area on its west side that jut out). With morning traffic, he would have had a nearly 50 min drive to get to Fenwick (factoring in also having to wait for Metra trains to pass by and if you are unlucky, a freight train. If he had taken public transit to get to school, you are looking at 1 hr 10- 1hr 30m commute.

The student population there tends to be, in my and my young adult kids' experiences, either kids with a fairly strong family Catholic background (and a lot of alumni's kids) or to be honest kids who were having problems/getting into trouble in the public school system and their parents wanted somewhere stricter and smaller to see if it would get their kids under control. For locals who are non religious but don't want to send their kids to the public high school (OPRFHS), some may send their kids to Fenwick but a lot opt for private non religious high schools in Chicago since we are literally right on the Chicago border.

The commute time makes it a bit of an odd choice to me, given that there is at least one closer Catholic school to where he lived. They do have some financial aid, but a lot of their scholarships there tend to be based on your entrance test exam scores but there are some based on financial need. So I do wonder if Mom or Dad were alumni or had other family ties to the school (aunts, uncles, etc).

 

[gremlin444]

Another problem was him speaking to a 911 dispatcher.

That one shocked me, I gotta say. I'm surprised that the 911 dispatcher would risk their job like that--they would be easily identifiable to their bosses by records showing who took the call.

 

[indicolite22]

Actually, one case is similar - Delphi. There was nothing to indicate Bridge Guy to be a troubled person who would murder two teens on a trail on a random afternoon, but he did. The only "red flag" was maybe a drinking issue. He drove home and continued his regular life too, after a double murder. Ordinary guy who killed ordinary strangers in an ordinary setting on an ordinary day.

In the Delphi case, I kept thinking something big was going to drop to explain the crime. But, nope. Didn't happen.

jmopinion

IMO he must have had prior dark ideations (fantasies, etc.), just didn't document them or he covered his tracks.

 

[Bounceycat]

What is the name of the podcast everyone is referring to, please?

 

[gremlin444]

Yes, the players get hurt. In the four years my son played in college, there were definitely injuries on the team and at least one player got a concussion.

But, with a club sport, when players get injured, they don't keep playing. It's not that type of atmosphere, that I noticed, like a high-stakes sports team for the school or a professional team. Student players wait until healed before playing again.

So, while it's reasonable to think he might have gotten a concussion while playing, I don't think he would've gotten them over and over again. Maybe one is enough? IDK.

jmopinion

While rugby isn't the number one sport at Fenwick, as a whole ALL their teams have an incredibly competitive attitude. And the other high schools that they would playing against are known for their aggressive competitive styles as well. And while now it's pretty common for coaches to actually have a high concern and have to follow strict guidelines about sports injuries, especially head injuries, in 2014-2015 when he was known to be on the team for sure things were more lax.

That is why I brought it up, as in wondering about the potential for any TBI from his time on the rugby team. The account from his teammate described a quite different personality than what is described in his twenties. Do I know for sure he got one or more than one--no. Is there a potential for it being a factor in whatever change took place--yes.

 

[Inthedetails]

Yup, I posted about this last night. I live in Oak Park. According to the WGNTV article I posted, he lived in the Garfield Ridge neighborhood of Chicago, which is actually south of Oak Park in about a 30 min drive with no traffic (Chicago proper is shaped quite oddly has all these area on its west side that jut out). With morning traffic, he would have had a nearly 50 min drive to get to Fenwick (factoring in also having to wait for Metra trains to pass by and if you are unlucky, a freight train. If he had taken public transit to get to school, you are looking at 1 hr 10- 1hr 30m commute.

The student population there tends to be, in my and my young adult kids' experiences, either kids with a fairly strong family Catholic background (and a lot of alumni's kids) or to be honest kids who were having problems/getting into trouble in the public school system and their parents wanted somewhere stricter and smaller to see if it would get their kids under control. For locals who are non religious but don't want to send their kids to the public high school (OPRFHS), some may send their kids to Fenwick but a lot opt for private non religious high schools in Chicago since we are literally right on the Chicago border.

The commute time makes it a bit of an odd choice to me, given that there is at least one closer Catholic school to where he lived. They do have some financial aid, but a lot of their scholarships there tend to be based on your entrance test exam scores but there are some based on financial need. So I do wonder if Mom or Dad were alumni or had other family ties to the school (aunts, uncles, etc).

Yes, I saw your post - but for some reason I thought it was about Oklahoma and didn't realize until today it was the Chicago area. (I lived in Oak Park for a couple of years as a young adult. Loved it.)

Yes, the commute to school would be a bear.

Thanks for the insights about the school.

jmopinion

 

[indicolite22]

Exactly, and in a vacuum where the public is not getting information and they feel they are danger, they are going to attempt to protect themselves.
That is what humans do when afraid, they fill the void.

We now know he was working alone, and didn’t attack someone else, and hadn’t already hurt some other people, and wasn’t baracaded with weapons, or on the run in another state.
The public did not know that until Wed evening or Thursday morning.

Tell the pubic- We have leads and have contacted multiple agencies and are working on it. Thank you for your tips, here is a new TipLine that works better. Please don’t share information to social media- call the line instead. We will update you when we have more information.

That is my take on the situation- and the sentiment I heard from the callers and my family in the area.
IMO

The 911 dispatcher revealed potentially sensitive information. That's like one of LE speaking to the media unauthorized.

 

[AngTxGal]

Yup, I posted about this last night. I live in Oak Park. According to the WGNTV article I posted, he lived in the Garfield Ridge neighborhood of Chicago, which is actually south of Oak Park in about a 30 min drive with no traffic (Chicago proper is shaped quite oddly has all these area on its west side that jut out). With morning traffic, he would have had a nearly 50 min drive to get to Fenwick (factoring in also having to wait for Metra trains to pass by and if you are unlucky, a freight train. If he had taken public transit to get to school, you are looking at 1 hr 10- 1hr 30m commute.

The student population there tends to be, in my and my young adult kids' experiences, either kids with a fairly strong family Catholic background (and a lot of alumni's kids) or to be honest kids who were having problems/getting into trouble in the public school system and their parents wanted somewhere stricter and smaller to see if it would get their kids under control. For locals who are non religious but don't want to send their kids to the public high school (OPRFHS), some may send their kids to Fenwick but a lot opt for private non religious high schools in Chicago since we are literally right on the Chicago border.

The commute time makes it a bit of an odd choice to me, given that there is at least one closer Catholic school to where he lived. They do have some financial aid, but a lot of their scholarships there tend to be based on your entrance test exam scores but there are some based on financial need. So I do wonder if Mom or Dad were alumni or had other family ties to the school (aunts, uncles, etc).

I thought the same thing about the distance of commute to his high school and came up with some reasons.
Maybe his family is Catholic?
Maybe the school has a rugby team and he wanted to get a scholarship to play rugby in college?

He did play rugby at Fenwick and did play in college.

IMO

 

[AngTxGal]

The 911 dispatcher revealed potentially sensitive information. That's like one of LE speaking to the media unauthorized.

Yeah, that is on her if she has a professional responsibility to keep that info private.
That is quite possible she violated expectations for her job. Not good there

IMO

 

[AngTxGal]

That one shocked me, I gotta say. I'm surprised that the 911 dispatcher would risk their job like that--they would be easily identifiable to their bosses by records showing who took the call.

Agree, she may have paid dearly for sharing.
She was afraid and upset. That is how my relatives were feeling- could they go to the grocery store or not? They had events they were to attend, with kids, and they didn’t know if they should go Monday, Tues, or Wed or not.

IMO

 

[AngTxGal]

What is the name of the podcast everyone is referring to, please?

I’m not sure we can share, but he was featured on Banfield- News Nation.

IMO

 

[Snortflea]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1951288691898392732

"Dressed in striped prison garb,
the teacher appeared in Washington County court Friday morning
where he was charged with two counts of capital murder.

He stood silently next to his public defender,
simply nodding his head when asked to confirm his name.

During the brief, minutes-long hearing,
the judge revoked his bond for the chilling murders.

McGann was ordered to return to court for his arraignment
on August 25.

Prosecutors also asked
that he be banned from making any contact with the victims' family."

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Is this normal for prosecutors to ask that no contact be made with the victims’ families?
I found that interesting. But maybe they always say that?

 

[justtrish]

Is this normal for prosecutors to ask that no contact be made with the victims’ families?
I found that interesting. But maybe they always say that?

Yes, I think it is. I recall recently with Brian Kohberger, the state requested a no contact order for 99 years. I believe one was also in place before the trial and once he was found guilty and sentenced, they asked for it to be indefinite.

 

[AngTxGal]

Is this normal for prosecutors to ask that no contact be made with the victims’ families?
I found that interesting. But maybe they always say that?

I think it is standard, but shouldn’t be necessary if he is kept in jail until the trial.

My hope is he has walked through a park, driven a car, and gotten a haircut using a hair dresser of his choosing - for the last time!

IMO

 

[Inthedetails]

dbm. I misunderstood. Oops