Clinton David Brink, 43 & Cristen Amanda Brink, 41 found on trail - Devil's Den State Park, AR- 26 July, 2025 #2 *Arrest*

[SMK777]

RSBM
Isn't it odd many of us thought the man 'looks unusual in a way that is difficult to put into words' before we saw his face, by just looking at his back!

That's extremely telling, yes!

 

[serosanguineous_drainage]

Yes, your scenario would definitely make sense.
Some posters had pointed out that in addition to being a loving wife she was a registered nurse and went back to help him medically. But what tools did she have? Your scenario makes more sense.

CPR doesn’t require “tools” . You can place a tourniquet with any scrap of fabric/clothing on-hand. I absolutely understand her going back for her husband.

 

[SMK777]

CPR doesn’t require “tools”.

Ha! You're right. I was thinking stab wounds, blood. But I'm not up on medical protocol.

 

[SMK777]

I would not doubt it. Many sex predators know their prey- whether children or adults.

Knowing the prey means being aware of the habits of the targets as well, as their likes and dislikes, what approaches work, and what approaches do not work.

Thus, they can become pretty popular with the target audience.

Predatory grooming. Trial and error.

 

[SMK777]

Devil’s Den murder suspect Andrew James McGann would ‘tickle’ girls, told one, ‘I wish you could be my girlfriend,’ parent at his former school says

Exclusive | Devil’s Den murder suspect Andrew James McGann would ‘tickle’ girls, told one, ‘I wish you could be my girlfriend,’ parent at his former school says

“This monster was around our children,” Zacharri Polyak, whose son attended Andrew McGann’s former Texas school, told The Post Friday.

nypost.com

 

[Arkay]

Devil’s Den murder suspect Andrew James McGann would ‘tickle’ girls, told one, ‘I wish you could be my girlfriend,’ parent at his former school says

Exclusive | Devil’s Den murder suspect Andrew James McGann would ‘tickle’ girls, told one, ‘I wish you could be my girlfriend,’ parent at his former school says

“This monster was around our children,” Zacharri Polyak, whose son attended Andrew McGann’s former Texas school, told The Post Friday.

nypost.com

NO!!!!! No no no no no!

In NY, if a child came home with this allegation, the teacher would be immediately removed from the classroom and an investigation would be initiated. Full pay and benefits while the investigation is ongoing.

If it turned out to be baseless, the teacher would be reinstated and maybe sue, (I’m not sure about that part).

But once that was stated, by a parent or the child, that teacher would be removed for safety’s sake. Even if it turned out to be a child’s lie—-they would not take the chance. In the interim an accused teacher would be sent to do busywork at a district office. If it was founded, of course he’d lose his license and probably be imprisoned—-I’m not positive about that, if nothing physical happened, but I would guess “yes.”

I feel sick that there were apparently several disturbing incidents and he cleverly jumped from school to school and state to state.

JMO and experience.

 

[New Penny]

I can't find the exact post now but somebody here suggested (before LE even mentioned the make and model of the actual car used by the perp) that the car may not be a Mazda but rather a Kia Stinger. Whoever that was - impressive skills!

Websleuthers are the absolute, hands-down the best. No matter the subject.

Proudly MOO

 

[OneLove]

So you are curious if the choice to attend an inconvenient private Catholic school had something to do with behavioral issues, in high school and trying to get him on the straight and narrow??

I worked at a private boarding school when I was in college, and the students were a mix of kids with money and kids with money that had been kicked out of other schools. Little angels… all of them. Oh the stories, resourceful snots.

Well he went to college and graduated, maybe he grew up.

If I have to ignore what I think is a perv motivation, I’m at a loss. Something is quite off
He doesn’t fit any of these categories my brain has explored.
- on the spectrum, high functioning
- spoiled and entitled, never worked a day in his life or accepted consequences
- financial issues and struggling to make ends meet
- incel
- history of physical violence

At this point these, or multiples of these coupled together) seem plausible
- mental illness, meds interactions, or off meds, or new illness
- substance abuse
- traumatic brain injury
- incompetent teacher
- loner, hasn’t quite found his tribe
- suffered too many failures, giving up on life

Does not compute, need more info
IMO

All of this! I'd bet on it, every single item.

 

[SMK777]

NO!!!!! No no no no no!

In NY, if a child came home with this allegation, the teacher would be immediately removed from the classroom and an investigation would be initiated. Full pay and benefits while the investigation is ongoing.

If it turned out to be baseless, the teacher would be reinstated and maybe sue, (I’m not sure about that part).

But once that was stated, by a parent or the child, that teacher would be removed for safety’s sake. Even if it turned out to be a child’s lie—-they would not take the chance. In the interim an accused teacher would be sent to do busywork at a district office. If it was founded, of course he’d lose his license and probably be imprisoned—-I’m not positive about that, if nothing physical happened, but I would guess “yes.”

I feel sick that there were apparently several disturbing incidents and he cleverly jumped from school to school and state to state.

JMO and experience.

It is deeply disturbing, yes.

 

[Interested_But_Confused]

RSBM
Isn't it odd many of us thought the man 'looks unusual in a way that is difficult to put into words' before we saw his face, by just looking at his back!

I feel silly even saying this, but ever since I first saw pictures of AM (and particularly the video) he has reminded me of something I was struggling to remember. And now I think I have remembered:

Akhenaten - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Ghostwheel]

So in this link it says he showed up with a girlfriend to see his old Chicago home.

https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/teacher-charged-in-arkansas-devils-den-double-murder-grew-up-in-chicago/

Interesting area. Not what I would call affluent (why the girlfriend would be "impressed" I have no idea, except for the brick houses). Looks similar to where I grew up where someone would buy a house, tear it down and put up apartments until the city put a stop to that. Now the area is a mix of houses and apartments on house lots.

 

[justtrish]

CPR doesn’t require “tools” . You can place a tourniquet with any scrap of fabric/clothing on-hand. I absolutely understand her going back for her husband.

I would also imagine she was thinking someone that is stabbing her husband is likely going to run after the encounter. Who would think the guy was sticking around to stab more people? I just think instinct for most people would be to run after they killed someone and for some reason he hangs around.

One thing I do wonder is if he was leaving the same way she and the girls did, maybe she encountered him some distance away from her husband?

I too understand going back to help.

 

[Keleah]

I’m always a bit surprised when people with seemingly normal lives go off the rails but sadly it isn’t rare.

I don’t think there was anything normal here, just intermittent appearances of normalcy.

 

[gremlin444]

So you are curious if the choice to attend an inconvenient private Catholic school had something to do with behavioral issues, in high school and trying to get him on the straight and narrow??

I worked at a private boarding school when I was in college, and the students were a mix of kids with money and kids with money that had been kicked out of other schools. Little angels… all of them. Oh the stories, resourceful snots.

Well he went to college and graduated, maybe he grew up.

Yes, I am curious. As I mentioned, I live in Oak Park where his high school is and have lived here for 25 years. I have a 23 yo (in a month) and a 18 yo who went to the public schools in Oak Park, I volunteered a lot in the schools and the community, and have been a private tutor in ASL for several local teens. Kids talk. Parents talk. You get to hear enough to see some trends in the population of each school (any grade level or district) near you. While my eldest is 5 yrs younger than AM, there hasn't been much change in the trends at that school since AM graduated in 2015, nor for my youngest who just graduated from high school this spring.

One part of crime that has always interested me is criminal psychology...what are the things that shaped the criminal? What life experiences, mental illnesses, health conditions, environment, etc...

For all I know, he was a perfect saint through out his k-12 years, got straight As, and his parents were alumni of Fenwick.

But because there are other Catholic schools in the area that are a bit closer (and at that time, cheaper) that also have rugby teams, it does make me wonder why his folks picked that specific school in addition to why Catholic school....based on the trends I have seen in Fenwick's student population. It could mean absolutely nothing, or it could give an insight into his back story or the timeline. Which is why I also brought up wondering about the potential for TBI from rugby, after I read the account by his high school rugby teammate who described him as:

...a quiet but friendly team leader and athlete.

“He led by example. He wasn’t the loudest guy in the room, but he kept things light,” Bailey said. “We carpooled to rugby practice together all the time, cracked jokes. He seemed like a totally normal guy.”

https://www.kark.com/crime/former-teammate-recounts-shock-after-arrest-of-suspect-in-devils-den-double-homicide/

Sure, it could be just this one guy they interviewed who would say that AM.

But I think about BK, and how even his friends from high school or classmates in college didn't say anything as nice as this about him. Even the girl who considered herself a fairly good friend of his in high school said that even in high school she knew he was an outsider, odd, had a temper, could be bullying, and manipulative (conning her into giving him a ride to get to his cousin's house and then to a pharmacy to get insulin needles for his diabetic aunt when it turns out he was actually buying heroin nearby and getting needles for himself). While she had some positive things to say about him in high school, she couldn't have described him as nicely as AM's teammate did.

So I wonder when things switched for AM...and what led to the switch.

 

[fred&edna]

I don’t think there was anything normal here, just intermittent appearances of normalcy.

i've had the same thoughts. i suppose that's why i've been so curious to hear from any of his friends/acquaintances outside the school setting... to know how 'normal' they found him to be over the last few years.

jmo

 

[Inthedetails]

Yes, I am curious. As I mentioned, I live in Oak Park where his high school is and have lived here for 25 years. I have a 23 yo (in a month) and a 18 yo who went to the public schools in Oak Park, I volunteered a lot in the schools and the community, and have been a private tutor in ASL for several local teens. Kids talk. Parents talk. You get to hear enough to see some trends in the population of each school (any grade level or district) near you. While my eldest is 5 yrs younger than AM, there hasn't been much change in the trends at that school since AM graduated in 2015, nor for my youngest who just graduated from high school this spring.

One part of crime that has always interested me is criminal psychology...what are the things that shaped the criminal? What life experiences, mental illnesses, health conditions, environment, etc...

For all I know, he was a perfect saint through out his k-12 years, got straight As, and his parents were alumni of Fenwick.

But because there are other Catholic schools in the area that are a bit closer (and at that time, cheaper) that also have rugby teams, it does make me wonder why his folks picked that specific school in addition to why Catholic school....based on the trends I have seen in Fenwick's student population. It could mean absolutely nothing, or it could give an insight into his back story or the timeline. Which is why I also brought up wondering about the potential for TBI from rugby, after I read the account by his high school rugby teammate who described him as:

...a quiet but friendly team leader and athlete.

“He led by example. He wasn’t the loudest guy in the room, but he kept things light,” Bailey said. “We carpooled to rugby practice together all the time, cracked jokes. He seemed like a totally normal guy.”

https://www.kark.com/crime/former-teammate-recounts-shock-after-arrest-of-suspect-in-devils-den-double-homicide/

Sure, it could be just this one guy they interviewed who would say that AM.

But I think about BK, and how even his friends from high school or classmates in college didn't say anything as nice as this about him. Even the girl who considered herself a fairly good friend of his in high school said that even in high school she knew he was an outsider, odd, had a temper, could be bullying, and manipulative (conning her into giving him a ride to get to his cousin's house and then to a pharmacy to get insulin needles for his diabetic aunt when it turns out he was actually buying heroin nearby and getting needles for himself). While she had some positive things to say about him in high school, she couldn't have described him as nicely as AM's teammate did.

So I wonder when things switched for AM...and what led to the switch.

Failure to thrive outside a strict structure?

I know it's more than that, but he might have been floundering and could not control obsessions when on his own. (Which is one reason I think he might not mind going to prison.)

jmopinion

 

[Vaderman]

Devil’s Den murder suspect Andrew James McGann would ‘tickle’ girls, told one, ‘I wish you could be my girlfriend,’ parent at his former school says

Exclusive | Devil’s Den murder suspect Andrew James McGann would ‘tickle’ girls, told one, ‘I wish you could be my girlfriend,’ parent at his former school says

“This monster was around our children,” Zacharri Polyak, whose son attended Andrew McGann’s former Texas school, told The Post Friday.

nypost.com

It's going to be insane if the motive for the murder wasn't related to children the more stories like these trickle out.

 

[arielilane]

By my count, this is the FIFTH school district that Mcgann was hired by since 2022.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1951276618955059507

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1951418995841647069

“Mr. McGann was giving a lot of special treatment to girls in particular. He was giving them candy, bringing them Sonic drinks, playing tag with them, tickling them, just really suspect behavior,” Polyak said.

Exclusive | Devil’s Den murder suspect Andrew James McGann would ‘tickle’ girls, told one, ‘I wish you could be my girlfriend,’ parent at his former school says

“This monster was around our children,” Zacharri Polyak, whose son attended Andrew McGann’s former Texas school, told The Post Friday.

nypost.com

 

[Inthedetails]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1951418995841647069

“Mr. McGann was giving a lot of special treatment to girls in particular. He was giving them candy, bringing them Sonic drinks, playing tag with them, tickling them, just really suspect behavior,” Polyak said.

Exclusive | Devil’s Den murder suspect Andrew James McGann would ‘tickle’ girls, told one, ‘I wish you could be my girlfriend,’ parent at his former school says

“This monster was around our children,” Zacharri Polyak, whose son attended Andrew McGann’s former Texas school, told The Post Friday.

nypost.com

I hate tickling. If you were a girl who was tickled by an older boy or man against your will, this is INFURIATING to read. It felt horrible, it felt like being trapped, and it felt weird because tickling was "supposed" to be fun and funny. "What's wrong, you don't like to laugh?!"

just my pissed-off opinion