Clinton David Brink, 43 & Cristen Amanda Brink, 41 found on trail - Devil's Den State Park, AR- 26 July, 2025 #3 *Arrest*

  • #441
Well look at this…
Evidently CTE may be a form of defense!? Even if the person has shown they understand they did something wrong? It is rare but yes, holy crap! And this is old, let me see if it has moved from 2022 to be more common…
Hmm

CTE might be used as a legal defense
@AngTxGal Your link goes to Duty of Care and not CTE might be used as a legal defense

Sorry if this has already been noted.
 
  • #442
Good gravy, a fish kissing picture would be better!

In addition to the absent clothing in his car, and the face, doesn’t he look like he needs a shower!?

IMO
 
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Just a couple of thoughts on his finances.

I personally don’t find a Kia Stinger (that is at a minimum, a couple years old or so) to be a “nice” car. Just a meh car. They aren’t expensive. Not being judgy. I drive something of similar value.

As for his nice house, it’s a rental and it’s a super tight rental market here right now. He likely had next to nothing to choose from. That house is newer. It’s also on the very edge of town with several counties worth of Devil’s Den type wild land right behind it. Couldn’t help my brain thinking of his future in that location. But as for $$, he had to take what he could get. There are apartment waiting lists for months and few houses available.

IMO
That’s a 2023 Kia Stinger, and I don’t know what your version of expensive is, but it’s the most expensive Kia. Up to $70k depending on the model. You might be confusing it with the Optima or the K5 that have a similar body style. The Stinger is a high-performance muscle car that was designed by engineers poached from BMW and Audi.
 
  • #445
Really? Wow, I’ve been operating under the assumption that it was an Kia Stinger older model with high mileage he bought used. I looked those up and found one for $15,

That is crazy!
IMO
No, it has the new Kia logo on the front. The one with the silver letters that are outside of the black circle. So it is a 2023. Sure, every car loses value, so if he bought it used, it would’ve been cheaper, but it is still relatively new.
 
  • #446
No, it has the new Kia logo on the front. The one with the silver letters that are outside of the black circle. So it is a 2023. Sure, every car loses value, so if he bought it used, it would’ve been cheaper, but it is still relatively new.

2023 Kia Stinger Review, Pricing, and Specs​

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kia stinger prices from www.caranddriver.com
Pricing and Which One to Buy. The price of the 2023 Kia Stinger starts at $37,865 and goes up to $54,065 depending on the trim and options. ... The right way to ...
$37,865.00 · 3.8 · Review by Austin Irwin

There are old used ones- 2018, 2019 for around $15K. So you are both right. Also KIA stopped making this model in 2023... not sure if that makes them more pricey because they are no longer available.
 
  • #447
I have this same vehicle and I’m curious how he afforded it on a beginner’s teacher salary. It’s a $60,000 car (if it’s the GT1, more if it’s the GT2). It’s also somewhat rare. They only manufacture 7500 of them each year. Once they had the description of the car, and compared it to the DMV database to see who owned one, it had to be really easy to find him.
Maybe it was a college graduation gift in 2022 from parents or a grandparent?

The last production date of the Kia Stinger was 4/2023. So if new as a gift, that timing could work.
 
  • #448

2023 Kia Stinger Review, Pricing, and Specs

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https://www.caranddriver.com › Kia




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Pricing and Which One to Buy. The price of the 2023 Kia Stinger starts at $37,865 and goes up to $54,065 depending on the trim and options. ... The right way to ...
$37,865.00 · 3.8 · Review by Austin Irwin

There are old used ones- 2018, 2019 for around $15K. So you are both right. Also KIA stopped making this model in 2023... not sure if that makes them more pricey because they are no longer available.
Yes, but once everybody found out that Kia was discontinuing the Stinger after 2023, dealers started putting a significant markup onto them. I wanted to trade mine in for a newer model and they wanted $10,000 on top of sticker because of the demand (and limited supply.) I said no, obviously, lol.
 
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Ok. It sounds like this is OK to post. There were a series of home invasions in February in South Tulsa area with video of the intruder, including a shot from behind. The intruder appears slim with wide shoulders IMO.

This report also mentions intruder being found standing at the foot of a child’s bed...
RSBM
Thanks for posting these case links.

Home invasions are terrifying to hear. Talk about brazen! The most worrying of course, as it relates to AJM, is the story of the perp in a child's room.

That said, IMO, the body structure of the perp in these video clips - most from behind - appears different from AJM.

In T#2, IIRC, we discussed ad nauseum the body structure of the back of AJM, as seen in the 7/26 image of him at Devil's Den Park. This isn't the best quality snip, but many folks here saw a man with narrower than normal male shoulders and wider than normal male hips. And I think that is consistent with the salon pics.

The perp in the home invasion videos, IMO, has wicked narrow hips and broad shoulders, so possibly not a match.

I don't want to dissuade you from bringing this to the attention of the AJM FBI investigators. None of us can know for sure. So leave it to the experts.

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  • #451
RSBM

That said, IMO, the body structure of the perp in these video clips - most from behind - appears different from AJM.
Hmm. Maybe so. I was looking more at the arrest video from hair salon. I can’t make much out in trail cam image. I do feel like AM is a bit of a shape shifter.
 
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  • #453
RSBM
Thanks for posting these case links.

Home invasions are terrifying to hear. Talk about brazen! The most worrying of course, as it relates to AJM, is the story of the perp in a child's room.

That said, IMO, the body structure of the perp in these video clips - most from behind - appears different from AJM.

In T#2, IIRC, we discussed ad nauseum the body structure of the back of AJM, as seen in the 7/26 image of him at Devil's Den Park. This isn't the best quality snip, but many folks here saw a man with narrower than normal male shoulders and wider than normal male hips. And I think that is consistent with the salon pics.

The perp in the home invasion videos, IMO, has wicked narrow hips and broad shoulders, so possibly not a match.

I don't want to dissuade you from bringing this to the attention of the AJM FBI investigators. None of us can know for sure. So leave it to the experts.

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Yes I agree the body type of AJM seems larger- stockier- as compared to the videos of the perp in the Bixby, Tulsa break-ins.
Also AJM seems to be taller, his arrest affidavit (attached) shows 6’ and 200lbs.

Still it seems completely like something he may do considering the clothing he was wearing at the park. I noticed other break-ins for the Tulsa area, it looks like purses were taken and even cars have been stolen.
Those were in Feb 2025, so not that long ago!

I do not see a thread here on WS for those breakins, maybe contact a mod so one can be started? This way others who want to look into it have a place to post updates, and discuss?

Great connection, AJM did spent a great deal of time in the Tulsa, OK area going to school, and working as a sub. Also mentioned are breakins occurring in Broken Arrow. He taught in Broken Arrow.

IMO
 

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Hmm. Maybe so. I was looking more at the arrest video from hair salon. I can’t make much out in trail cam image. I do feel like AM is a bit of a shape shifter.

Absolutely somewhat of a shape shifter, and the backpack and duffle in the photo from the back make him look broader in the middle.
If I had to guess based on door heights and wall hanging heights- that break-in perp is 5’10” or shorter and 170lbs, moving quickly and agile like a teenager.
I hope they catch the Tulsa perp, how terrifying to imagine someone coming into people’s homes! Lock your doors for sure, and so surprised he hasn’t gotten shot or attacked by a dog.
Do you think it is more than one person?

The hair salon video makes AJM look smaller than 6’ tall 200 lbs to me, because the cops that came in to arrest him look larger.
To make him look smaller those guys must be big men, 6’2” 200 lbs or larger.
Just my best guess- but AJM may be 6’ tall but he isn’t 200 lbs. If I compare him to a guy I know very well (my son) who is about 6’1” and 185lbs he is about that size but AJM is a stockier build in the shoulders.

The intake videos for AJM do not show a 200lb guy either, imo. Did the fill out the arrest affidavit with the info after weighing him?

Or maybe it is his demeanor at the salon with his head kinda down that makes him appear smaller?

Fox 5 Devil’s Den Arrest video

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  • #455
I doubt the autopsy was leaked. Nancy Grace often speculates with her guests about hypothetical situations and alludes to other cases.

The "waited" part in the preliminary report makes me think of an ambush. He either was hiding and surprised them or stopped on the trail and pretended he was busy with something, until they reached him at which point he pounced.

A Report?
So does anyone. know what this ‘Preliminary Report’ may be that is referred to in the article linked above?
If a reporter got it, shouldn’t we be able to get it?

IMO
 
  • #456
A Report?
So does anyone. know what this ‘Preliminary Report’ may be that is referred to in the article linked above?
If a reporter got it, shouldn’t we be able to get it?

IMO
IIRC, it has been posted on this thread before (I can't remember by who). It's a pdf with a basic synopsis.

ETA: It's the preliminary probable cause affidavit
 
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I think, the intruder might be him possibly.

I noticed:
Relatively little feet (video with dog). AJM seems to have little feet (video at the barber, when he climbs the stairs).
Under the shirt, the intruder (seen from the back) is wearing, there might be something on his shoulders. The shirt fits so tightly, even though the armholes seem large. Something seems wrong with how a shirt normally is fitting a broad-shouldered man. So I think, the intruder isn't as broad-shouldered as it looks. The shirt collar is also fitting in a special way, with a little distance to the neck. If there were something like shoulder pads under the shirt, the collar would look like this.
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  • #459
covering his license plate says something.... but a lot of people walk around with knives and never cut anyone up. Really no idea why these people at this time. No smiles in any of the pictures we have seen of him.

(If he was just trying to kidnap the girls, that would be a motive... LE would know more about that.)

in some youth pics he was smiling
 
  • #460
in some youth pics he was smiling
Or even in the pic with his cat which he used to get his first teaching job in Texas in 2022. He was probably not too bad in job interviews.
 

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