Clinton David Brink, 43, Cristen Amanda Brink, 41 found on trail- Devil's Den State Park, AR- 26 July, 2025 *Arrest*

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  • #741
What are the odds it was actually someone else if the poi is based only off the couple who identified him as acting sus
 
  • #742
The impression I get is almost of someone who is carrying their entire life's belongings with them. Or at the very least someone who is carrying enough belongings to last days and days.

Perhaps they live in their car?
I agree, though then, why not leave all the clothes,/carrier in the car?

I'm leaning towards him intending to quickly remove his outer layers of (bloody) clothing/weapon and stash them in the bag, before anyone could see him, and to avoid getting any DNA in his car.

I heard a highly respected criminologist speculate that Lizzie Borden got away with killing her father by wearing only his heavy greatcoat, inside out and back to front, and then laying it under his body...was how there was no blood on her clothing...

If Lizzie could think of such a thing...

But in this case, if the killer was injured, he may have left his own blood behind.

JMO
 
  • #743
I agree, though then, why not leave all the clothes,/carrier in the car?

I'm leaning towards him intending to quickly remove his outer layers of (bloody) clothing/weapon and stash them in the bag, before anyone could see him, and to avoid getting any DNA in his car.

I heard a highly respected criminologist speculate that Lizzie Borden got away with killing her father by wearing only his heavy greatcoat, inside out and back to front, and then laying it under his body...was how there was no blood on her clothing...

If Lizzie could think of such a thing...

But in this case, if the killer was injured, he may have left his own blood behind.

JMO
I really like this line of thinking, it explains the bag and unusual clothing choice.

I’m very encouraged by the statement that he may be injured; I think he cut himself.

It may not help them catch him in the near term, but it’ll nail him when they do.
 
  • #744
To me, the way the shirt hangs in the back is very feminine and makes it look as if the shoulders are feminine. Meaning, the neck line is sort of scooped lower in the back.

But closer inspection, IMO, suggests the broader shoulders of a biological man. But, I am open to the possibility that I’m wrong.
Yes, I see what you mean. It is initially a confusing image which needs closer inspection.
 
  • #745
The people who first described him and who actually made the frontal drawing specifically said he had black shorts on.

He could have had black pants on underneath really wide shorts that might give the same lower hemline that we see on the back of his upper legs. These dont appear to be the zip-off type that have the zipper just above the knees, as there is clearly no continuity of line seen in the photo from the rear.

But what a pain to have to remove your pants then put shorts back on while trying to escape just murdering two people.
Or he could have taken off some very hot layers while he was scoping out the scene, but maybe putting outer coverings back on just before the crime.
 
  • #746
I really like this line of thinking, it explains the bag and unusual clothing choice.

I’m very encouraged by the statement that he may be injured; I think he cut himself.

It may not help them catch him in the near term, but it’ll nail him when they do.

It's really the only way to explain the large bag and what appear to be several clothing layers so very inappropriate for the conditions that day. One cannot explain it off as saying he was just preparing for heavy rain.
 
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I agree, though then, why not leave all the clothes,/carrier in the car?

I'm leaning towards him intending to quickly remove his outer layers of (bloody) clothing/weapon and stash them in the bag, before anyone could see him, and to avoid getting any DNA in his car.

I heard a highly respected criminologist speculate that Lizzie Borden got away with killing her father by wearing only his heavy greatcoat, inside out and back to front, and then laying it under his body...was how there was no blood on her clothing...

If Lizzie could think of such a thing...

But in this case, if the killer was injured, he may have left his own blood behind.

JMO

I could easily see someone wearing multiple layers as you suggest, enabling them to strip off the top layer and avoid contamination after they have committed the crime.

But in this case it seems so ramshackle. The person may be wearing gaiters, but if so one appears to be rolled down to the ankle. They seem to have something tied both around their neck and around their waist, but it seems to be hanging loose where it would just get in the way. Fingerless gloves presumably wouldn't prevent fingerprints, bloody or otherwise.

If this was a perpetrator intent on committing a murder and then stripping off the incriminating layer of clothes to disguise what they had done... they don't appear to have thought it through very well. Thankfully.
 
  • #749
The impression I get is almost of someone who is carrying their entire life's belongings with them. Or at the very least someone who is carrying enough belongings to last days and days.

Perhaps they live in their car?
First thing I thought of when I saw the get-up was homeless. They typically wear a lot of layers, even in the summer. Also, drug/use abuse can screw with your temperature regulation, especially opioids. I see a lot of thick black hoodies in 30 degree weather (Celsius, obv, otherwise that would make sense!)

I'm guessing this is a random unprovoked act by a mentally unstable individual, but I work in mental health, so that probably biases me, lol. We all see these mysteries through the lens of our own lived experiences. Parents probably focus more on the kids, see potential abduction because that's one of their worst fears. They're all valid hypotheses until we know more!
 
  • #750
scarf makes sense if distinct neck tattoo ?
 
  • #751
seeing some rumors on you tube and fb , re police having IDed the POI as a RSO from nearby ? any confirmation?

Hey @MassGuy *wave*
Just a rumor with no confirmation as far as I can tell. I don't see any legitimate sources saying this.
 
  • #752
What are the odds it was actually someone else if the poi is based only off the couple who identified him as acting sus

I feel sure the children had some input on his description.
 
  • #753
Do we have a neighbourhood RSO tracker in the UK as well ? can someone share a link ? feels like all parents should have this posted to them ?
 
  • #754
I agree, though then, why not leave all the clothes,/carrier in the car?

I'm leaning towards him intending to quickly remove his outer layers of (bloody) clothing/weapon and stash them in the bag, before anyone could see him, and to avoid getting any DNA in his car.

I heard a highly respected criminologist speculate that Lizzie Borden got away with killing her father by wearing only his heavy greatcoat, inside out and back to front, and then laying it under his body...was how there was no blood on her clothing...

If Lizzie could think of such a thing...

But in this case, if the killer was injured, he may have left his own blood behind.

JMO
Bbm.
Yes, it sounded from earlier reports that LE believe the perp may be injured ?
Anxiously waiting for an update.

Poor girls.
Physically unharmed, but the trauma .... 😭

IF the focus was on the kids... how idiotic does one have to be to try to grab/abduct them in the presence of their parents ?
And if it was someone who just wanted to kill--he/she decided to carry out their attack at a public park in broad daylight ?
Imo, that hypothesis would lean towards a mental illness.
 
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  • #755
It's really the only way to explain the large bag and what appear to be several clothing layers so very inappropriate for the conditions that day. One cannot explain it off as saying he was just preparing for heavy rain.
The gaiters or whatever on the legs may have been protection against snakes? Just checked and there are three different types of rattlesnakes in the area. Does the over dressing indicate someone inexperienced in being outdoors in nature?
 
  • #756
Someone's got to recognize the picture and think, "Hey, that's......." Also possible someone would remember him buying that very new bag.
 
  • #757
First thing I thought of when I saw the get-up was homeless. They typically wear a lot of layers, even in the summer. Also, drug/use abuse can screw with your temperature regulation, especially opioids. I see a lot of thick black hoodies in 30 degree weather (Celsius, obv, otherwise that would make sense!)

I'm guessing this is a random unprovoked act by a mentally unstable individual, but I work in mental health, so that probably biases me, lol. We all see these mysteries through the lens of our own lived experiences. Parents probably focus more on the kids, see potential abduction because that's one of their worst fears. They're all valid hypotheses until we know more!
I agree and have a similar line of thinking to what you posted.

I feel like it might be similar to the Stephen and Wendy Reid case. (Someone else mentioned it earlier in this thread too.)
 
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I'm guessing this is a random unprovoked act by a mentally unstable individual, but I work in mental health, so that probably biases me, lol.
I would agree, except that he got away - not just obscuring his license plate, but also not being a regular, recognized visitor at the park, slipping out and driving off without being seen, not attracting attention for several days now ... to me that seems like someone who is in his right mind.

JMO
 
  • #760
Couple of paradoxes with the clothing. Perp clearly has a lot of hiking/trail gear, The North Face long sleeve, the backpack, the shoes look like proper hiking ones, somebody mentioned waterproof hiking trousers. This would mean perp at least tried to match the cloting to the place they were in. Yet on the flip side, he's carrying this weird hokey type duffel bag, cap that seems way too small, scarf or buff, and fingerless gloves which makes him/her stand out as a sore thumb in the park with the temperatures as they are. In other words, it looks like he/she at least tried to blend in and "look the part" (or at least intended to spend some time roaming this environment) but had absolutely no idea how to make the clothing work in practice. Thoughts?
 
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