Found Deceased CO - BARRY ARRESTED AGAIN - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *Case dismissed w/o prejudice* *found in 2023* #117

[Magic8Ball]

Life insurance would be a huge one, if it exists. No 7 year wait with a body.

Getting access to the rest of her assets would be another one.

It's possible that he figured that her body being found in biking clothes, would help him with that lawsuit (being factually innocent probably helps somewhat).

If she was moved, which seems very, very likely, I just don't see any explanation other than him wanting her found, for one reason or another. You don't take a body that's been successfully hidden for two or so years, and put it in a shallow grave in a location where its eventual discovery is inevitable.

The other possibility is that LE really WAS onto something when they dismissed the charges the first time because they believed they were close to discovering her and she was located in "a remote and mountainous region nearby the Morphew residence."

If he was worried that the FBI had gotten additional digital/electronic analysis back since his arrest that had led them to discover her location, he would definitely have wanted to move her.

 

[Magic8Ball]

Yes !
Jeff Puckett (sadly deceased).

I posted about that in the previous thread, and although it was said the hotel claimed people had complained in the past about the smell-- the hotel also said the pool was closed while Barry was there and that they didn't use bleach to clean any rooms.
So, add it to the long list of Barry's fabrications ( my coworker is lying and the odor is the fault of the hotel cleaners).
Imo.

JP is deceased?
Someone needs to do a welfare check on MG.
Daily.

LE really needs MG's testimony about Barry's odd demeanor and last-minute scheduling changes that weekend, including both Saturday and Sunday. As well as all the Broomfield business with not having left the proper tools or equipment, the hotel room, all of it.

She's a key witness. Especially now that JP isn't around to corroborate her testimony.

 

[AmandaReckonwith]

Not sure if this big pic is allowed, but here is BAM with best description, from the maker.

 

[dkaras]

For what purpose would he want her to be found? Collecting on life insurance??

If a policy exists (I don't recall if the public ever knew?), then yes, I think it's all about the money.

I also can't stop thinking about that diamond ring (assuming it's real). Where is it?? I don't believe it was found with her remains. Did they have it insured? Has he collected on that? That large of a diamond, would it have a serial number, something to identify it? BM would not have just thrown away the ring. Either he still has it somewhere or he sold/pawned it and it's out there somewhere. How could it be traced if it's "out there"? Anyone know?

 

[charminglane]

A quick tour through gardening sites and I wonder about powdered lime. Seems to be a deterrent to garden pests. I wonder if it might play a role in decomposition and/or bleaching as well as scent masking?

Barry utilized what he knew and what he had on hand. Besides BAM, what other chemicals might he have had in his wheelhouse?

Every new detail points back to him.

JMO

Road salt?

 

[steeltowngirl]

It took a while, but I went back to @DizzyB’s fabulous “Today is the Day” post and read every post up to here to catch up. And boy was it worth it! Seeing so many of you again, who have followed this case for so long, and the glorious reactions to the news of Barry’s arrest. Also was a great refresher on the case details, theories, and our outstanding questions.

I do think it is likely there was a tip called in, and that Barry had help moving Suzanne’s body. Maybe even both times, first after her murder, then when he relocated her. But, since he got away with it for this long, it’s possible he pulled it all off solo. I think he first took Suzanne’s body up the mountain, perhaps up past the fire station. He’d have headed toward an area that he was already familiar with, given it was the dead of night.

Expecting trial witnesses to include Grusing, Suzanne’s sister MM, brother AM, best friend SO, the neighbor JR, worker MG, and more. Hoping the star witness will be SD in a spectacular tell-all. Would not surprise me if SD’s other ex-bf, FB, also made an appearance at trial. Those two knew things.

I do wonder if it was premeditated, and if he may have planned to take her on that “hike” on Saturday morning, and have her “fall” off the mountain, but plans went awry, and Plan B was the BAM.

Can’t wait for the trial. Looking forward to the likely wait of a year or more of discussion with you all leading up to trial.

For now, we can keep celebrating that Barry Lee Morphew, aka “Lee Moore” is now FREE NO MORE!

I hope he enjoyed Father’s Day in his trailer. It was his last ever as a free man. His new temporary home in Maricopa County, is Pod2 Cell3 Bed 1

Next up: Some jail cell in Colorado.
Then Life in Prison.

JMO

https://www.mcso.org/i-want-to/test-lookup-tools

 

[snooptroop88]

If a policy exists (I don't recall if the public ever knew?), then yes, I think it's all about the money.

I also can't stop thinking about that diamond ring (assuming it's real). Where is it?? I don't believe it was found with her remains. Did they have it insured? Has he collected on that? That large of a diamond, would it have a serial number, something to identify it? BM would not have just thrown away the ring. Either he still has it somewhere or he sold/pawned it and it's out there somewhere. How could it be traced if it's "out there"? Anyone know?

I can't tell here if they're talking about her ring or his/CBS:
Investigators recovered documents from Suzanne's iCloud account as part of evidence. One of those documents was a list Suzanne made on May 8, 2020 entitled "grievances." It included notes like "wedding ring," which Barry allegedly took and melted at some point. She also noted women on Facebook, which Barry told her was good for business, as well as an incident in Mexico where Barry tried to take her phone away and look at it.

Remains of missing Colorado mom Suzanne Morphew found in Moffat 3+ years after last seen

The remains of missing Colorado mom Suzanne Morphew have been found more than 3 years after she was last seen.

www.cbsnews.com

Evidently hers:
A note on Suzanne’s iCloud account, meanwhile, recorded a list of “grievances,” including an incident in which Barry allegedly melted her wedding ring.

What we know about the mysterious death and discovery of Suzanne Morphew

Police found the mother-of-two’s body, but say they still have ‘more questions than answers,’ Josh Marcus reports

www.the-independent.com

He's just... absolutely disgusting. (jmo)

 

[dkaras]

I can't tell here if they're talking about her ring or his/CBS:
Investigators recovered documents from Suzanne's iCloud account as part of evidence. One of those documents was a list Suzanne made on May 8, 2020 entitled "grievances." It included notes like "wedding ring," which Barry allegedly took and melted at some point. She also noted women on Facebook, which Barry told her was good for business, as well as an incident in Mexico where Barry tried to take her phone away and look at it.

Remains of missing Colorado mom Suzanne Morphew found in Moffat 3+ years after last seen

The remains of missing Colorado mom Suzanne Morphew have been found more than 3 years after she was last seen.

www.cbsnews.com

Evidently hers:
A note on Suzanne’s iCloud account, meanwhile, recorded a list of “grievances,” including an incident in which Barry allegedly melted her wedding ring.

What we know about the mysterious death and discovery of Suzanne Morphew

Police found the mother-of-two’s body, but say they still have ‘more questions than answers,’ Josh Marcus reports

www.the-independent.com

He's just... absolutely disgusting. (jmo)

Oh my. I have missed that. OK then, I will stop obsessing about that ring then. He is absolutely disgusting, I agree. He is going down. Finally.

EBM: But then my brain goes...."are we SURE he melted the ring?" and "diamonds don't melt, do they? hey google ... "

 

[Magic8Ball]

If a policy exists (I don't recall if the public ever knew?), then yes, I think it's all about the money.

I also can't stop thinking about that diamond ring (assuming it's real). Where is it?? I don't believe it was found with her remains. Did they have it insured? Has he collected on that? That large of a diamond, would it have a serial number, something to identify it? BM would not have just thrown away the ring. Either he still has it somewhere or he sold/pawned it and it's out there somewhere. How could it be traced if it's "out there"? Anyone know?

I know there's an open question as to whether her wedding ring was even still a thing (her grievance list reference to it), but my speculation is that IF the ring still existed, it was "found" in the house next to the kitchen or bathroom sink or next to her nightstand and Barry then explained its presence away to LE by saying that Suzanne routinely took off her ring before washing her hands/showering/at bedtime/riding her bike, whatever fit his staging.

There's 0% chance he would toss away something that had so much monetary value.

 

[Magic8Ball]

DBM. Duplicate post.

 

[al66pine]

Life insurance would be a huge one, if it exists. No 7 year wait with a body.

Getting access to the rest of her assets would be another one.

It's possible that he figured that her body being found in biking clothes, would help him with that lawsuit (being factually innocent probably helps somewhat).

If she was moved, which seems very, very likely, I just don't see any explanation other than him wanting her found, for one reason or another. You don't take a body that's been successfully hidden for two or so years, and put it in a shallow grave in a location where its eventual discovery is inevitable.

@MassGuy Thx for your post and making the point about BM likely wanting remains to be recovered so he could submit claim as beneficiary to life ins co (azzzzzuming there was a policy on SM's life & he was bnfcry) for the death benefit $$$ amt.

The post referred to "No 7 year wait with a body."
Hesitating to ask, but am curious about the source for a 7 yr wait if no remains are recovered.
CO. statute? Or __?

 

[gammagirl]

If a policy exists (I don't recall if the public ever knew?), then yes, I think it's all about the money.

I also can't stop thinking about that diamond ring (assuming it's real). Where is it?? I don't believe it was found with her remains. Did they have it insured? Has he collected on that? That large of a diamond, would it have a serial number, something to identify it? BM would not have just thrown away the ring. Either he still has it somewhere or he sold/pawned it and it's out there somewhere. How could it be traced if it's "out there"? Anyone know?

There is NO way that BM would have paid real money for a ring on her finger... it was a fake, IMO

 

[Seattle1]

@MassGuy Thx for your post and making the point about BM likely wanting remains to be recovered so he could submit claim as beneficiary to life ins co (azzzzzuming there was a policy on SM's life & he was bnfcry) for the death benefit $$$ amt.

The post referred to "No 7 year wait with a body."
Hesitating to ask, but am curious about the source for a 7 yr wait if no remains are recovered.
CO. statute? Or __?

A medical examiner/coroner must issue a death certificate for the long term missing person in order for his or her family to collect on life insurance policies, to remarry, and to settle legal issues such as disposition of property. The certificate will not be issued without a Presumptive Death being established first by a formal legal proceeding which can only be commenced after a period of years that varies from state to state.

In Colorado, the period is seven years but there are certain provisions to accept 5 years if proof of no communication, signs of life, etc..

https://cbi.colorado.gov/sites/cbi/files/Legal%20Presumption%20Of%20Death%20Pettem.pdf

 

[MassGuy]

@MassGuy Thx for your post and making the point about BM likely wanting remains to be recovered so he could submit claim as beneficiary to life ins co (azzzzzuming there was a policy on SM's life & he was bnfcry) for the death benefit $$$ amt.

The post referred to "No 7 year wait with a body."
Hesitating to ask, but am curious about the source for a 7 yr wait if no remains are recovered.
CO. statute? Or __?

So there are ways to speed up the process if there is evidence that a person is deceased, but I imagine it's pretty time consuming and not guaranteed.

The standard of 7 years is based on SS guidelines.

SSA Handbook § 1721

When is a missing person presumed dead?

www.ssa.gov

 

[Warwick7]

You cannot search to find out if a person has a veterinary prescription unless you are the owner of the pet and are requesting your own pet's records, or if there is a legal reason for the information to be disclosed.

Her brother wasn't searching if BM had a veterinarian perscription.
He was searching for his sister SM. He came with an astounding group and worked so hard.

 

[Megnut]

Life insurance would be a huge one, if it exists. No 7 year wait with a body.

Getting access to the rest of her assets would be another one.

It's possible that he figured that her body being found in biking clothes, would help him with that lawsuit (being factually innocent probably helps somewhat).

If she was moved, which seems very, very likely, I just don't see any explanation other than him wanting her found, for one reason or another. You don't take a body that's been successfully hidden for two or so years, and put it in a shallow grave in a location where its eventual discovery is inevitable.

One dumb turn deserves another.

How he could have thought her being found would help him...

Forgot to brush up on insect activity, animal predation, BAM metabolism, bone count, natural decomp, unnatural bleaching...

I wonder if he inadvertently transfered flora or soil/rocks from the prior location to the Moffat one, pointing LE toward it.

If I might add a quick footnote here to future felons, if you're going to stage a really poor bike ride turned abduction, don't double down and stage it worse, three years later.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

A medical examiner/coroner must issue a death certificate for the long term missing person in order for his or her family to collect on life insurance policies, to remarry, and to settle legal issues such as disposition of property. The certificate will not be issued without a Presumptive Death being established first by a formal legal proceeding which can only be commenced after a period of years that varies from state to state.

In Colorado, the period is seven years but there are certain provisions to accept 5 years if proof of no communication, signs of life, etc..

https://cbi.colorado.gov/sites/cbi/files/Legal%20Presumption%20Of%20Death%20Pettem.pdf

The paperwork should have been easy for Barry, to make a convincing case for the 5 year ruling. Proof of no communication, signs of life. He can lock that down from about 3 pm on Saturday, May 9, 2020. Of course, he'd have to gloss over some important details and admit some stuff...

For his trouble, I hope he'll soon join PatrickFrazee with a twin LWOP +156.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

I can't tell here if they're talking about her ring or his/CBS:
Investigators recovered documents from Suzanne's iCloud account as part of evidence. One of those documents was a list Suzanne made on May 8, 2020 entitled "grievances." It included notes like "wedding ring," which Barry allegedly took and melted at some point. She also noted women on Facebook, which Barry told her was good for business, as well as an incident in Mexico where Barry tried to take her phone away and look at it.

Remains of missing Colorado mom Suzanne Morphew found in Moffat 3+ years after last seen

The remains of missing Colorado mom Suzanne Morphew have been found more than 3 years after she was last seen.

www.cbsnews.com

Evidently hers:
A note on Suzanne’s iCloud account, meanwhile, recorded a list of “grievances,” including an incident in which Barry allegedly melted her wedding ring.

What we know about the mysterious death and discovery of Suzanne Morphew

Police found the mother-of-two’s body, but say they still have ‘more questions than answers,’ Josh Marcus reports

www.the-independent.com

He's just... absolutely disgusting. (jmo)

I always thought it was his ring. That would make way more sense. But... iirc he was wearing a ring in photos from MDW.

I wonder when/whether she stopped wearing her ring.

Which would incense him.

So maybe he took it, kept it for Suze 2.0. If Suze 1.0 asked for her ring, he probably lied -- melted it down for the precious metals. As if.

Where is it, Barry?

(JMO)

 

[snooptroop88]

I always thought it was his ring. That would make way more sense. But... iirc he was wearing a ring in photos from MDW.

I wonder when/whether she stopped wearing her ring.

Which would incense him.

So maybe he took it, kept it for Suze 2.0. If Suze 1.0 asked for her ring, he probably lied -- melted it down for the precious metals. As if.

Where is it, Barry?

(JMO)

Agreed, I really think it might be his, too. He seems like the type that would initially decide he's going to refuse to wear it, and then might well have melted it down. I suppose, though, it could be hers.

Either way, as BM has noted, his view is that"marriage is for life," so those rings should-- still be around.

Agreed on this that this is actually a pretty important point with the whereabouts of these rings. so where are they?? Both of them, his and hers.

 

[katydid23]

BBM:
This is incorrect. JG was never removed from the case. He retired from the FBI.
Retired LEOs frequently testify in criminal trials.
The prosecution will absolutely call JG as a witness.

A large part of this case will involve showing the jury the prolific lies and conflicting stories that BM gave to LE over the course of the investigation. Barry made numerous incriminating statements to JG in their interviews.

Jury needs to understand what they're dealing with here in terms of the defendant's statements and behavior post-offense. JG has done a masterful job of outlining that for jurors in other cases, most notably, the Letecia Stauch case, also out of Colorado.

His testimony won't confuse the jury.
His testimony will help make it crystal clear to them exactly whodunnit.

*ETA: I believe you may be thinking of JC, who was an investigator for the CBI, vs. JG, who worked for the FBI.

I agree with all of the above.

Agent Grusing is perhaps the best FBI agent I have ever seen in action, in terms of his interrogation skills, and his stellar trial testimony. He was heavily involved in many successful cases such as Mark Redwine, Leticia Stauch, Scott Kimball, Patrick Frazee.

FBI: Suzanne Morphew told Barry she was 'done' with the marriage

Barry Morphew says he was shooting squirrels in his backyard the day before his wife disappeared, according to an FBI agent.

www.9news.com

Later in the day, a now-retired FBI Agent, John Grusing, testified that on May 9 of 2020, the day before Suzanne went missing, Suzanne was in her backyard “sunbathing” and sending pictures online to Jeff Libler, a Michigan man with whom she had been having a nearly two-year long affair.
Grusing said cell phone data indicated that when Barry Morphew came home at that time, he began “moving in a pattern around the outside of the house.” Grusing said Morphew would later explain that he was shooting chipmunks on his property. Soon after, Libel sent Suzanne several messages online that she didn’t return.
On the witness stand, Grusing testified that about 12 hours later, around 3 a.m. on May 10, the day Suzanne disappeared, data captured by the electronics in Barry’s truck showed the truck’s doors opening and closing.
Grusing said Barry went to Broomfield a few hours later, presumably on a business trip. But Grusing said while he was in Broomfield, Barry made five trips to a dumpster, where video showed him throwing away numerous bags. Grusing said Barry has never been able to explain what was in some of those bags.