Found Deceased CO - Dylan Nicholas Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 Nov 2012 *father arrested* #4

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  • #861
I am amazed more hasn’t been asked about the Debit card.


Dylan had it so the fact Mark ended up with that card means he killed Dylan. There is no other explanation on how he ended up with that card. It means that when he was tidying up the crime scene he took that card out of Dylan’s wallet.
YES!!!! You NAILED IT!
 
  • #862
When does a parent throw out a picture of their dead kid?

Very powerful statement.
 
  • #863
I sure hope someone will write a book on this terrible case.
 
  • #864
the defense tries to mock the small weight of the DNA swabs---but what did the expert say when asked---did you have enough to make a full DNA profile?

Yes
 
  • #865
all the evidence points to murder here. No one said it had to have happened in the living room, but it did happen because he is dead.
 
  • #866
wow----

mark threw Dylans pictures in the trash---but he kept this picture of the protest at his home, begging him to tell what he knew about where Dylan was

He couldn't wait to show you this picture of him being hassled but he threw away pictures of his missing son in the trash
I'm speechless!
Now I can't wait to watch this later!!
 
  • #867
When does a parent throw out a picture of their dead kid?

Very powerful statement.



I had forgotten he had thrown photos away of Dylan when he was 11 and 12 years of age. I think it’s symbolic of when Mark thinks their relationship broke down moooooo
 
  • #868
I am amazed more hasn’t been asked about the Debit card.


Dylan had it so the fact Mark ended up with that card means he killed Dylan. There is no other explanation on how he ended up with that card. It means that when he was tidying up the crime scene he took that card out of Dylan’s wallet.
I so hate to say this, but it it is entirely possible that Mark asked for it from Dylan that night, and Dylan gave it to him willingly because Mark said he needed the card to get the PIN number fixed. HOWEVER, even knowing this is a possibility, the fact that MR never mentioned he had the card (he didn't, right?) tells me he was trying to hide that he had it. It is a bit of circumstantial evidence that would lean me in Prosecutions favor.
 
  • #869
MR was last seen with Dylan, he had opportunity and reason to kill him---there was blood/DNA found under the rug, HRD dog alerted in living room, and vehicle

Mark was incredibly evasive and inconsistent, and the remains were found very close to the cabin

mark was only person who had reason to take all Dylans belongings, and he has the boy's debit card
 
  • #870
It's over. State rests.
 
  • #871
I wonder if it's possible for Dylan's picture to be hung in Mark's prison cell so he can see it everyday as a reminder of what he has done.
 
  • #872
Approximately 30 minutes of rebuttal from the state. Jury is ordered to deliberations
 
  • #873
I wonder if it's possible for Dylan's picture to be hung in Mark's prison cell so he can see it everyday as a reminder of what he has done.
Specifically copies of the ones he threw out
 
  • #874
I don't think I followed the case from the beginning. I first became aware of it from Tricia's True Crime Radio podcast, I think. From then, I began to follow on Websleuths. I may be wrong about that, but I just remember that it really hit home with me because Dylan looked so much like my son at that age.
 
  • #875
Pro tip for trial watchers: Mr. Bogan is much more tolerable on mute

You're welcome.
I tried watching it for a couple of minutes. Y'all are hands down better and more entertaining.
 
  • #876
I so hate to say this, but it it is entirely possible that Mark asked for it from Dylan that night, and Dylan gave it to him willingly because Mark said he needed the card to get the PIN number fixed. HOWEVER, even knowing this is a possibility, the fact that MR never mentioned he had the card (he didn't, right?) tells me he was trying to hide that he had it. It is a bit of circumstantial evidence that would lean me in Prosecutions favor.




Mark never mentioned this to the FBI or law enforcement and you would think if this had happened Dylan would of kicked off and texted his mum about it as he had given Dylan that card and the money in the account. I somehow doubt Dylan trusted him enough to give him back the card without a huge fuss being made. IMO


The most obvious answer is he took it back after he cleaned up the crime scene as he never had any intention of Dylan actually getting hold of that money.
 
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Attn : @Niner
Jury sent to deliberate at 3:41 Mountain time.

2 Alternates dismissed but still on standby.

EBM fix typo
 
  • #879
Yes Mark was suspected almost straight off the bat as his actions literally made zero sense. I can remember he did have some supporters but a lot also felt like he was guilty.
 
  • #880
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I rewatched Agent Grusing's testimony because I thought he was such a great witness. And early in his testimony, he was asked about his first interactions with MR.

And turns out he was brought in by the CBI to interview Mark because Grusing is very experienced at getting to the truth with witnesses. He was the one who first interviewed Chrystal Lee in the Patrick Frazee case and after one phone interview with her, he got search warrants on her place which blew open that murder investigation.

So he was sent to interview MR and he described how that interview went. He became pretty suspicious because of his demeanour and his inconsistent answers to questions, right from the start.
 
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