Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #36

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Any theory on that neighbor?
Actually there are several but I can only link one to a news story which I’m trying to find.
 
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Just a thought i had. I haven't sleuthed anyone who is off limits, but i am just wondering since LS said that HH was at work that day, and there are 3 different Subways listed on the witness list, i wonder if HH works at one of these Subways and maybe LS visited her at work that day.

MOO.
 
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correct , to look for him leaving after 3pm to go play at a friends ... Roderick said SM said wasn’t interested in looking at video

Which supports the theory that by the time AS arrived back in CS, he would have already had many suspicions about LS. He talked to RD on Tuesday, RD would have told him of the offer the previous night (or that morning). Naturally, RD was first focused on the time from 3:15-4 pm and surely had watched that segment by Tuesday night.

So, on Tuesday, LS rents a car, uses a full tank of gas, has it for 28 hours, does not (to our knowledge) go "door to door" looking for Gannon. AS arrives sometime just before noon (and either is or isn't picked up by LS - we don't know), and at some point, he speaks to LE (and it wasn't just a 5 minute conversation, I am sure). Landen arrives sometime around 4-6 IIRC, and she then speaks to LE (and MSM says that was an "all night" conversation.) Where is LS during this entire time?

Tooling around in that rental car? I personally believe she took the red truck to the airport (to hide it).

Does anyone have a good idea of when LS gives her first interview to the TV reporter? I think it was on Friday, but my memory isn't perfect. It was the night of the first "blue vigil," which I think was Friday (there was a vigil on Wednesday as well, though - but it wasn't as large as the one on Friday, where the whole blue ribbon part was initiated).
 
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On Crimeonline RD says he didn't release the tapes. The news media did, and they were told not to. There is more footage that was given to LE that the public hasn't seen.
bbm

Re. the bolded : I think that's correct , that was on the msm News FB page as well. (Denver News 7 ?)
It's been a while. :p

So LE have much more evidence.
 
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Which supports the theory that by the time AS arrived back in CS, he would have already had many suspicions about LS. He talked to RD on Tuesday, RD would have told him of the offer the previous night (or that morning). Naturally, RD was first focused on the time from 3:15-4 pm and surely had watched that segment by Tuesday night.

So, on Tuesday, LS rents a car, uses a full tank of gas, has it for 28 hours, does not (to our knowledge) go "door to door" looking for Gannon. AS arrives sometime just before noon (and either is or isn't picked up by LS - we don't know), and at some point, he speaks to LE (and it wasn't just a 5 minute conversation, I am sure). Landen arrives sometime around 4-6 IIRC, and she then speaks to LE (and MSM says that was an "all night" conversation.) Where is LS during this entire time?

Tooling around in that rental car? I personally believe she took the red truck to the airport (to hide it).

Does anyone have a good idea of when LS gives her first interview to the TV reporter? I think it was on Friday, but my memory isn't perfect. It was the night of the first "blue vigil," which I think was Friday (there was a vigil on Wednesday as well, though - but it wasn't as large as the one on Friday, where the whole blue ribbon part was initiated).

Thursday-Here is another look at the raw interview from Jan. 31, 2020 with Gannon's stepmother Letecia Stauch.

KKTV 11 News
 
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Would you tho? If the video shows GS going & not returning, would you expose yourself to this monster. I wouldn’t TS any help, and I’d be concerned about my own family at this stage of search. Jmo

You misunderstood the context or I didn't explain very well.

If a child had JUST gone missing in my neighborhood and I heard that from the parents or from another neighbor, I would not say to the parent "do you want to search my video?" I would do that myself assuming I knew what the child looked like. No way in a neighborhood full of cameras do the parents or parent have time to view each neighbor's video. But it is being reported that's what RD did. He contacted TS on the 27th or 28th and asked if she wanted to review his video.

The truck video isn't in play at that point. RD has been quoted in multiple MSM outlets that he found it days later on Sat. Feb 1 and showed it to AS on Feb 2. TS was long gone by then.

If I found video that was ambiguous and might be the kid might not be, and it was right after the disappearance, yes, I likely would show it to the parent. If for some reason I feared the parent, I'd call LE. Since RD claims he asked LS if she wanted to look at his video, that suggests he wasn't afraid of her. But it still makes no sense to me he didn't just review it himself.
JMO
 
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So LE gave the media the tapes and not RD? Not imo.
I don't know. That's what he said. I don't know who to ask for clarification. But as you know, sometimes the media gets leaks from unlikely places.
 
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BBM

Locksmiths carry electronic key fob replacements for many popular makes/models of cars and can electronically reprogram them to work with your car if you loose your fob/transponder. I'm sure they need proof of ownership and the code info (from the dealership or from another spare) but getting a new one through them is cheaper and faster than through a dealership. I don't have personal experience, but have several friends who've done it this way.

ETA: Locksmiths can definitely program & provide a new key fob/transponder. This is not the one mentioned in witness list, but see the drop down box at the bottom of the page for explanation!
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MOO
Didn’t know that. Awesome. :)
 
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While we are not supposed to sleuth witnesses, is it okay to mention that some of the named parties might have certain kinds of businesses?
 
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She didn't call herself the punisher, she referred to herself as someone who would punish. (Paraphrasing) I was looking for someone to punish for this.
My response: "Who does she think she is to punish"? This is typical language of a person who is punitive. They are demanding and authoritative.

It was during the DAWP interview. It is too painful to listen to again.

Justice for Gannon!
Thank you for the explanation, I’ve avoided listening to it.
 
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Had that video not gotten out to the public, worldwide and local interest in the case would have been virtually zero. Other kids went missing in CS during the period Gannon has been gone, but it's the dramatic reveal of a lying stepmom that got everyone's attention.

This case would not be on thread 36 otherwise. And all the businesses that quickly cooperated and reviewed video tapes (and Petco employees who went public with their own observations) would not have been aware of the case. Going door to door is not enough - public attention is needed.

For every Gannon, there are 1999 other children reported missing, every day (of whom, about 200 are still missing after 48 hours).

I think LE's own statements to RD ("this is the break we needed") were meant to be public. And the public has responded with enormous concern and help.

Also, this method of pulling together citizens surveillance, route cameras is a new thing.
Like family DNA this is a tremendous new source of information to add to an investigation.
 
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The Switch auto connecting to Subway wifi makes a lot of sense.

Perhaps also LE had an idea of LSs direction of travel and used the Subways as a go-to for CCTV footage because Subway typically have high quality cameras and good backup processes.
 
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She didn't call herself the punisher, she referred to herself as someone who would punish. (Paraphrasing) I was looking for someone to punish for this.
My response: "Who does she think she is to punish"? This is typical language of a person who is punitive. They are demanding and authoritative.

It was during the DAWP interview. It is too painful to listen to again.

Justice for Gannon!
Oh, right. Delusions of grandeur. She was conducting her own internal investigation.

Looks like she may get her wish.

Imo
 
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While we are not supposed to sleuth witnesses, is it okay to mention that some of the named parties might have certain kinds of businesses?
im kind of lost on how far we can go on that. I’m assuming if I can find them in an approved media source concerning the case and they are on the witness list then I can mention them. I mentioned one last night that got deleted, so I guess I’ll only mention names if I can find a media source.
 
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The Switch auto connecting to Subway wifi makes a lot of sense.

Perhaps also LE had an idea of LSs direction of travel and used the Subways as a go-to for CCTV footage because Subway typically have high quality cameras and good backup processes.
Yes. Good point!
MOO anywhere Gannon had connected before was like to autoconnect when the switch got in range.
 
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I don't know. That's what he said. I don't know who to ask for clarification. But as you know, sometimes the media gets leaks from unlikely places.
Agreed. ^^^
Hopefully the media aren't getting anything from FB or other social media !
That would not only be inaccurate but unethical in a professional sense.
I am not referring , of course, to msm News Media FB pages which we can link to.
 
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I think just a general, "Hey, want my ring videos to see if you can see him?" He could have asked before he himself even saw any of it.
On our n'hood pages people always offer up their video surveillance to others after a car break-in or something.
The things that make you go ”huh”. I’d immediately begin reviewing the footage, she didn’t manage him very well. :rolleyes:
 
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In hindsight, I’m sooooo glad LS did not want to see RD’s footage because that just tells me that it did not occur to her AT ALL that all her movements might be caught on his camera.
 
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im kind of lost on how far we can go on that. I’m assuming if I can find them in an approved media source concerning the case and they are on the witness list then I can mention them. I mentioned one last night that got deleted, so I guess I’ll only mention names if I can find a media source.
I guess I can say that there are at least 3 neighbors on the witness list if i dont mention their names. If I find them in an approved news source concerning the case I suppose I then could say who they are..... do I have this right ?
 
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