Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #37

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  • #241
It also hit a raw nerve with Tee. She was so POed, she went as far as to say RD was paid $5 grand which is false. Her undies really got in a bunch over that video, that's without any sound being released. It sure did trigger her. MOO
LS unraveled after that. I’d say it was a success. IMO
 
  • #242
Yes, it's amazing! I can't remember what case it was, but I remember seeing where they were able to solve the case because LE found rare tree pollen in the wheel wells of the perp's car that was identified & traced to a very specific area based on the testimony from this type of expert!
I was trying to remember also as that was the first thing I thought of.
I believe it was Christina Morris ?? @MtnMama
 
  • #243
I just want to reiterate this:

"For the murder charge, the complaint alleges that on or about Jan. 27, Stauch “unlawfully, feloniously, and knowingly caused the death of Gannon Stauch, a child who had not yet attained twelve years of age, and the defendant was in a position of trust with respect to the victim.”

For the child abuse charge, the complaint states Stauch “unlawfully, feloniously, knowingly, or recklessly caused an injury to, or permitted to be unreasonably placed in a situation that posed a threat of injury to, the life or health of a child, namely: Gannon Stauch, and engaged in a continued pattern of conduct that resulted in cruel punishment, or mistreatment, that resulted in the death of the child.”

For the tampering charges, the complaint accuses Stauch of destroying, mutilating, concealing, removing or altering physical evidence."

Court document provides new details about charges in Gannon Stauch case | FOX31 Denver

Sounds more and more like she left him to die on his own. Then went back found him and moved his body.

Hmmm........
 
  • #244
Good Lord why can’t this evil witch just TELL THEM WHERE GANNON IS!?!

no need to answer, we all know why. Rhetorical, but it’s just so heartbreaking and frustrating.
BBM- I ask myself this daily. We all know why she wont, because she wants that control and if she tells, then she is admitting she killed him which she will never, ever admit to doing.
But yeah, I get so pi$$ed off daily at this question. Just UGH
#Gannonismyhero
 
  • #245
Agreed.

I appreciate the OP sharing a hypothetical; I understand that family members may have strong opinions on the importance of remains for burial. However, Landen's needs seemed all too clear at the PC following T's arrest. She stated that she intends T to pay 100% for her heinous crime, and added: "I know where my son's at without a shadow of a doubt." My heart breaks for them each and every day Gannon is still out there. I doubt, though, that either the parents or LE will allow that to deter them from #JusticeforGannon.

Please don't misunderstand me. I'm not supportive of a plea deal at all. As was stated, this was a hypothetical. Having worked with families, bringing a loved one home is tantamount. That is the place I am coming from. Personally, I want to see Gannon brought home without her input, and then justice served to the full. Ultimately, if there were such a scenario, I believe that Gannon's parents should call that shot. IMO, they are the sole decision makers for that.
 
  • #246
I'll be out most of today. Reading, but likely not posting up much, if at all.

My morning thoughts.

I smell a long list of excuses on the horizon.

Temporary insanity, yeah but's, that's not true, total insanity plea, coercion, blame, YEAH, lot's of blame coming on, character assassination, bringing up all sorts of allegations against others, throwing people under the bus, drug induced frenzy, yada, yada, yada.

wikipedia.....

arguing that the defendant is not responsible for his or her actions due to an episodic or persistent psychiatric disease at the time of the criminal act

defense of mental disorder, defense of mental illness or not criminally responsible by reason of mental disorder employed. Being incapable of distinguishing right from wrong


Or, a plea deal.
Gannon is my hero!
MOO Someone who is incapable of distinguishing right from wrong, does not engage in an elaborate process to cover up the crime... even if she hurt him badly in moment of rage or insanity, she functioned sanely in her decision to cover up that action, indicating she remembered her part in the injury...justice for Gannon!
 
  • #247
I wonder if dogs are being used in some of the current search areas?
 
  • #248
Yes. I wondered about that too. My reasoning was, if premeditation is conditional, then it might be possible. Help! Calling on lawyer members!

She isn't charged with M1 because of premeditation, she's charged with M1 because of the age of her victim.

"A person commits the crime of murder in the first degree if: The person knowingly causes the death of a child who has not yet attained twelve years of age and the person committing the offense is one in a position of trust with respect to the victim." 18-3-102(1)(f)) Colorado Revised Statutes Title 18. Criminal Code § 18-3-102 | FindLaw
 
  • #249
I just want to reiterate this:

"For the murder charge, the complaint alleges that on or about Jan. 27, Stauch “unlawfully, feloniously, and knowingly caused the death of Gannon Stauch, a child who had not yet attained twelve years of age, and the defendant was in a position of trust with respect to the victim.”

For the child abuse charge, the complaint states Stauch “unlawfully, feloniously, knowingly, or recklessly caused an injury to, or permitted to be unreasonably placed in a situation that posed a threat of injury to, the life or health of a child, namely: Gannon Stauch, and engaged in a continued pattern of conduct that resulted in cruel punishment, or mistreatment, that resulted in the death of the child.”

For the tampering charges, the complaint accuses Stauch of destroying, mutilating, concealing, removing or altering physical evidence."

Court document provides new details about charges in Gannon Stauch case | FOX31 Denver

Sounds more and more like she left him to die on his own. Then went back found him and moved his body.

Hmmm........
DBM
 
  • #250
She isn't charged with M1 because of premeditation, she's charged with M1 because of the age of her victim.

"A person commits the crime of murder in the first degree if: The person knowingly causes the death of a child who has not yet attained twelve years of age and the person committing the offense is one in a position of trust with respect to the victim." 18-3-102(1)(f)) Colorado Revised Statutes Title 18. Criminal Code § 18-3-102 | FindLaw
Thank you!:)
 
  • #251
LS unraveled after that. I’d say it was a success. IMO
Well she was already well on the way. That was the straw though. MOO
 
  • #252
Maybe, still don't need her to get off on a technicality,or have her claim she can't get a fair trial. If she's bound,and determined to take it that far. Let her. We saw what over confidence in a Slam dunk case can do for poor Caylee Anthony. MOO

I don't believe she'll get off on any kind of technicality, or that she'll ever be able to claim she can't get a fair trial.
I do believe, the state has ample evidence to ensure she pays the penalty for the crimes she's charged with.
(I never followed the Anthony trial, so I have no idea what really happened there, but I never believed it was "slam dunk" anyway.)
 
  • #253
I just want to reiterate this:

"For the murder charge, the complaint alleges that on or about Jan. 27, Stauch “unlawfully, feloniously, and knowingly caused the death of Gannon Stauch, a child who had not yet attained twelve years of age, and the defendant was in a position of trust with respect to the victim.”

For the child abuse charge, the complaint states Stauch “unlawfully, feloniously, knowingly, or recklessly caused an injury to, or permitted to be unreasonably placed in a situation that posed a threat of injury to, the life or health of a child, namely: Gannon Stauch, and engaged in a continued pattern of conduct that resulted in cruel punishment, or mistreatment, that resulted in the death of the child.”

For the tampering charges, the complaint accuses Stauch of destroying, mutilating, concealing, removing or altering physical evidence."

Court document provides new details about charges in Gannon Stauch case | FOX31 Denver

Sounds more and more like she left him to die on his own. Then went back found him and moved his body.

Hmmm........

Sounds very likely.

MOO as also maybe he died in the truck, she stopped at Petco to think about what to do.
While in there went to the door to pretend she was checking on a living child in the truck, not quite acting right.
 
  • #254
The Vapor Source is a smoke type products store isn't it? Could be wrong but we have those here.
 
  • #255
The Vapor Source is a smoke type products store isn't it? Could be wrong but we have those here.

There seem to be about 4 of them in Colorado Springs
The witness list just says Vapor Source.
 
  • #256
*Deputy District Attorney Handsome Michael Allen
I'm hoping this isn't too far off topic. Does anyone remember seeing him on a crime show being interviewed about a case?

I swear I've seen him on something, most likely Dateline. I've been trying to figure out which one.

Anyone know the other murder cases he's prosecuted?
 
  • #257
Please don't misunderstand me. I'm not supportive of a plea deal at all. As was stated, this was a hypothetical. Having worked with families, bringing a loved one home is tantamount. That is the place I am coming from. Personally, I want to see Gannon brought home without her input, and then justice served to the full. Ultimately, if there were such a scenario, I believe that Gannon's parents should call that shot. IMO, they are the sole decision makers for that.

Prison is not solely punitive. It serves many functions, one of which is keeping society safe.
A 5 year sentence for this crime does not serve that purpose. AT ALL. MOO That's a slap on the wrist for even just the tampering charge.
 
  • #258
Ok, now the "key" talk is sounding worse than I thought. I have racing thoughts of how TS used the key.
 
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  • #259
Thank you!:)

To expound on your question: does anyone know whether the M1 (age of victim) charge equates generally/legally with the death penalty? Since the death penalty is not yet off the table, it begs the question of whether this charge is deemed substantial enough for the DP, or whether premeditation can/will be proven. TIA and apologies if I'm rehashing anything I missed.
 
  • #260
Yes! Absolutely! Those swabs and vacuums can find things that we'd never find on our own!
Right. I joke with everyone I know. I would never get away with anything. ( not that I would want to) I could be easily traced by the trail of quilting threads alone. MOO
 
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