Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #37

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  • #261
I just want to reiterate this:

"For the murder charge, the complaint alleges that on or about Jan. 27, Stauch “unlawfully, feloniously, and knowingly caused the death of Gannon Stauch, a child who had not yet attained twelve years of age, and the defendant was in a position of trust with respect to the victim.”

For the child abuse charge, the complaint states Stauch “unlawfully, feloniously, knowingly, or recklessly caused an injury to, or permitted to be unreasonably placed in a situation that posed a threat of injury to, the life or health of a child, namely: Gannon Stauch, and engaged in a continued pattern of conduct that resulted in cruel punishment, or mistreatment, that resulted in the death of the child.”

For the tampering charges, the complaint accuses Stauch of destroying, mutilating, concealing, removing or altering physical evidence."

Court document provides new details about charges in Gannon Stauch case | FOX31 Denver

Sounds more and more like she left him to die on his own. Then went back found him and moved his body.

Hmmm........

While it's certainly possible that's exactly what she did, the way the law is worded it allows for/includes various scenarios under the child abuse charge.
It could be read several different ways, depending on what she actually did, or allowed to happen.

jmo
 
  • #262
I just want to reiterate this:

"For the murder charge, the complaint alleges that on or about Jan. 27, Stauch “unlawfully, feloniously, and knowingly caused the death of Gannon Stauch, a child who had not yet attained twelve years of age, and the defendant was in a position of trust with respect to the victim.”

For the child abuse charge, the complaint states Stauch “unlawfully, feloniously, knowingly, or recklessly caused an injury to, or permitted to be unreasonably placed in a situation that posed a threat of injury to, the life or health of a child, namely: Gannon Stauch, and engaged in a continued pattern of conduct that resulted in cruel punishment, or mistreatment, that resulted in the death of the child.”

For the tampering charges, the complaint accuses Stauch of destroying, mutilating, concealing, removing or altering physical evidence."

Court document provides new details about charges in Gannon Stauch case | FOX31 Denver

Sounds more and more like she left him to die on his own. Then went back found him and moved his body.

Hmmm........

I had wondered at first if she left him alive and that's why she kept saying he would be back. To me that's so cruel, I tried to get away from it. But, oh my gosh, you got me thinking again. What if that's the real reason she rented the car? To go look for him in a vehicle he wouldn't recognize? That part of what she said would be true. She returned in the rental and found he had passed, put his body in the trunk and moved him, hid the body. The cadaver dogs picked up the scent in the trunk of the car and that's how LE is sure he's passed (murdered)? Speculation 100% and I don't like it, but, what if?? Moo
 
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  • #263
Witness list:
Widefield Water and Sanitation district. 8495 Fountain, security camera visible from street view.
MOO they think her driving around was diversionary.
MOO the net is tightening.
bbm
Agreed.

All of the effort to mask her crimes when the truth is so much easier.
If she'd injured him and then finally decided to do the right thing and bring him to the ER; yes, she'd face abuse charges and do some time but she'd get out and still have her life back.

Who wants to spend the rest of their days behind bars ? Which may very well be her fate ?
Was it worth it, TS ?
Why ? Revenge ?
No amount of anything is usually worth getting the DP or life w/o parole.
 
  • #264
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If you are responsible for a child (parent guardian babysitter) and fail to report them missing for hours, days, weeks, or months and they die, you are responsible for their death. MOO. There are several cases going on NOW like that - if you sell or loan a child to someone you should be JUST as responsible as whatever happens to them in the aftermath. MOO
 
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If you are responsible for a child (parent guardian babysitter) and fail to report them missing for hours, days, weeks, or months and they die, you are responsible for their death. MOO. There are several cases going on NOW like that - if you sell or loan a child to someone you should be JUST as responsible as whatever happens to them in the aftermath. MOO
Agree 100%
 
  • #266
I'm hoping this isn't too far off topic. Does anyone remember seeing him on a crime show being interviewed about a case?

I swear I've seen him on something, most likely Dateline. I've been trying to figure out which one.

Anyone know the other murder cases he's prosecuted?
I know he has tried 8 murder cases since joining the DA’s office and they all ended in convictions. Can’t find any news reports with him being interviewed though. It DOES seem we’ve seen him somewhere. He was on Dan May’s team for the Kelsey Berreth trial, maybe that’s it? JMO
 
  • #267
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In this case I suspect once her defense team sees the evidence against her, it'll knock the legs out from under whatever "defense" they might have been planning on using.
No doubt they'll go through all the expected motions & formalities, but truly, what defense can they possibly have?
That hacking and coughing looked to me to be one of those situations where a sip of water goes down the wrong "pipe".
It's happened to everyone, and it looked like that's what happened to that lady. Terrible timing too, but what can you do?
I honestly do NOT think they will be any kind of formidable opponent.

All entirely jmo.
 
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I had wondered at first if she left him alive and that's why she kept saying he would be back. To me that's so cruel, I tried to get away from it. But, oh my gosh, you got me thinking again. What if that's the real reason she rented the car? To go look for him in a vehicle he wouldn't recognize? That part of what she said would be true. She returned in the rental and found he had passed, put his body in the trunk and moved him, hid the body. The cadaver dogs picked up the scent in the trunk of the car and that's how LE is sure he's passed (murdered )? Speculation 100% and I don't like it, but, what if?? Moo

BBM
Before the arrest, I chose the scenario that she left him on the side of the road--then seconds later someone rescued him. I didn't believe that; I had this sickening "knowing" almost from minute one. I hoped it with everything in me (as did we all). It is still difficult to accept. It would not do for me to be a jury member in the quintessential example of whether a defendant is guilty...when the PD says: "HERE IS THE VICTIM NOW!" (then points out that since you looked at the door in expectation, my client must be innocent). I would look for Gannon every time, because I so need him to be safe with his family.
 
  • #269
Yes. I wondered about that too. My reasoning was, if premeditation is conditional, then it might be possible. Help! Calling on lawyer members!
Yeah, I don't think it will be a problem. Even if she did not intend to kill him, there is intent behind the abuse and/or neglect. She was in a position of trust and care of a minor child. If she injured him severely but failed to seek immediate care, then she made a decision which resulted in his death which can be seen as premeditation.

Imo
 
  • #270
I do feel for the people who have to keep her incarcerated and deal with her.

Most jails have entire "wards" (for lack of a better term) for difficult prisoners (suicidal prisoners, prisoners who attack guards, prisoners with a history of violence toward other prisoners, psychotic prisoners) and I vet that's where she is - now. She's now got a few days to pull it together and adjust/adapt.

She's in a very strange situation. My view of her is that she's someone who thrives on attention from others and frantically avoids being alone. She's going to be alone a lot, eventually. Right now, she's probably got someone stopping by her cell every 15 minutes or so. She will want to appease the jail staff in order to have conversation and make requests/demands. I assume she's able to pretend to be many different things to many different people, but the jailers know not to let their guard down. She won't get anywhere in ingratiating herself to staff (staff will change constantly, thwarting any attempts to "befriend" them, they're used to manipulative people).

She does indeed have to get used to looking at herself in the mirror, without her eyebrow pencil and other makeup. That'll be when she gets a chance, it'll be rare until she's permitted into a different setting than the one she's in. Her lawyers are going to have to dig her out of the hole she's in, security-wise, to ever get her anywhere close to being allowed makeup or hair dye (for trial). She gets no privacy for things like the toilet right now, I'm guessing. These are huge things to adjust to, especially for someone who expects apologies and privileges.

Meanwhile, at morning and evening report in the jail, her jailers will discuss her and keep their own counsel about how to deal with any problems that arise.

Can she adapt or will she become flagrantly psychotic? I sure hope she manages to remain mentally healthy (to the degree she's been functioning in the past) and doesn't end up in the psych ward, claiming she's unfit to participate in her own defense.

At any rate, I look forward to her next public appearance. She may well transform herself into a "model prisoner" which, if I were on staff at the jail, would be really worrying as she's clearly capable of pretending to be someone she's not. She also thinks she's invincible and so, I think she'll find a way to regard herself as "Queen of the Jail" if she's permitted. That's the point at which introducing her into the regular population would be the usual antidote, but in her case, there will have to be serious discussion about the advisability of treating her like a regular inmate. I bet everyone in the jail hopes for a speedy trial and to transfer her and her entire circus of problems to the prison system.
@10ofRods ... I want to add, There are no secrets in jail,” and an inmate's file jack is always available for staff to read. Attacking an officer is not something to want appearing on the face sheet.

Corrections staff are out numbered by inmates, and they do not carry weapons, only handcuffs. A large part of their training is threat assessment and they are taught to never trust an inmate. TS cannot un-ring that bell because word's out!

The consequences of her attack can vary from being ostracized by other inmates (to maintain favor of officers) to guards turning a blind eye to attacks, and anything in between. Until the trial is over, prison life for her is the best it will ever be.
 
  • #271
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In this case I suspect once her defense team sees the evidence against her, it'll knock the legs out from under whatever "defense" they might have been planning on using.
No doubt they'll go through all the expected motions & formalities, but truly, what defense can they possibly have?
That hacking and coughing looked to me to be one of those situations where a sip of water goes down the wrong "pipe".
It's happened to everyone, and it looked like that's what happened to that lady. Terrible timing too, but what can you do?
I honestly do NOT think they will be any kind of formidable opponent.

All entirely jmo.
The Hare didn't think the Tortouse was a threat. MOO
 
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  • #272
BBM
Before the arrest, I chose the scenario that she left him on the side of the road--then seconds later someone rescued him. I didn't believe that; I had this sickening "knowing" almost from minute one. I hoped it with everything in me (as did we all). It is still difficult to accept. It would not do for me to be a jury member in the quintessential example of whether a defendant is guilty...when the PD says: "HERE IS THE VICTIM NOW!" (then points out that since you looked at the door in expectation, my client must be innocent). I would look for Gannon every time, because I so need him to be safe with his family.

Same here. If only.
I had the bad feeling from the beginning but would have loved for anything else to be true.
 
  • #273
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And she's going to further 'smear' AS and LH in court; I'd bet.
I hope the prosecution will shut her down if TS tries to bad mouth these grieving parents !
She's already tried to do that.
I'm not buying it.

Show me the perfect parent who has made no mistakes in their personal life, ever.
Gannon's parents loved their children.
The interview showed how unbelievably cold TS is. "Owed an apology...."
Makes me want to hurl. :mad:
 
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In this case I suspect once her defense team sees the evidence against her, it'll knock the legs out from under whatever "defense" they might have been planning on using.
No doubt they'll go through all the expected motions & formalities, but truly, what defense can they possibly have?
That hacking and coughing looked to me to be one of those situations where a sip of water goes down the wrong "pipe".
It's happened to everyone, and it looked like that's what happened to that lady. Terrible timing too, but what can you do?
I honestly do NOT think they will be any kind of formidable opponent.

All entirely jmo.
How I hope you're right !
 
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  • #275
To expound on your question: does anyone know whether the M1 (age of victim) charge equates generally/legally with the death penalty? Since the death penalty is not yet off the table, it begs the question of whether this charge is deemed substantial enough for the DP, or whether premeditation can/will be proven. TIA and apologies if I'm rehashing anything I missed.

Felony 1 Murder in Colorado is a minimum of LWP and maximum DP.
Killng of a child under 12 is Felony 1.
DP ends in June 2020. DA has indicated he willing to seek DP
 
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In this case I suspect once her defense team sees the evidence against her, it'll knock the legs out from under whatever "defense" they might have been planning on using.
No doubt they'll go through all the expected motions & formalities, but truly, what defense can they possibly have?
That hacking and coughing looked to me to be one of those situations where a sip of water goes down the wrong "pipe".
It's happened to everyone, and it looked like that's what happened to that lady. Terrible timing too, but what can you do?
I honestly do NOT think they will be any kind of formidable opponent.

All entirely jmo.
It’s going to be very interesting to see what the defense has planned. I don’t know anything yet about Strobel (the one coughing) but Kim Chalmers (the blond blocking our view of TS) is not new to defending murderers. She got this guy a not guilty on 2nd degree murder charges in 2010. Not that this case compares at all in regards to evidence JMO.
Lack of blood implicates man who put father's body in trash
 
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  • #277
The Hare didn't think the Tortouse was a threat. MOO
Gannon is my hero! MOO I understand the points you are making, however I think the roles might be reversed here, the prosecution has made a slow and meticulous( tortoise) case against a hurried, rapid defendant / Letecia ( hare)...The defense, assigned since her arrest, have much ground to catch upJMO, but I think what you are saying: never underestimate your opponent... Very sound advice, I really do understand.Justice for Gannon!
 
  • #278
Maybe I missed it but why would there be witness from Florida? I’m prayiNg Gannon is found soon!
 
  • #279
I know he has tried 8 murder cases since joining the DA’s office and they all ended in convictions. Can’t find any news reports with him being interviewed though. It DOES seem we’ve seen him somewhere. He was on Dan May’s team for the Kelsey Berreth trial, maybe that’s it? JMO

No, I don't think that's the one.

I don't recall DDA Allen being part of the Kelsey case at all.

I can't remember reading his name once in association with Frazee's trial.

I'll see what I can find online about his other successful murder prosecutions.

JMO.
 
  • #280
All caught up (I think) and I thank everyone here for all the links!

Gannon Stauch Case Archive:
Gannon Stauch -CO- by amanda reckonwith

Justice for Gannon:
Justice For Gannon by amanda reckonwith


The main archive has everything until March 2. The, all the "justice" stuff is archived in the Justice for Gannon section.
The main archive continues to be updated with things like the memorial at Lorson Ranch, street name, church video,
basically anything that doesn't pertain to that stepmother.
You ROCK @AmandaReckonwith
Thank you for all the hard work you put in for Gannon's case and all the other cases.
We appreciate you :)
 
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