Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #43

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  • #201
Wasn't the initial report something like LE was in the backyard searching with flashlights, and a vehicle was pulled out of the garage? Or did this not happen on the day he went missing?

I bet LS was shatting herself when LE was searching the house and garage. I think in the least, the back of her suv was full of bloody evidence. I bet she was counting on LE taking her word for it, that she had thoroughly searched the home already.

Also, a lot of suv's have "cargo covers" that hide can hide what is in the cargo area. They are generally a flat panel at the height of the seatbacks. Many of them are removable or retractable. Also, tinted windows would require more effort to see what was inside.

JMO
I remember hearing that, too about LE in the backyard with flashlights and the car. Pretty sure it came from someone on social media because it was never confirmed anywhere in the media. And I don’t think it was the night GS went missing, maybe the night after that?

Here’s a pic of a “privacy cover” for a VW Tiguan.
 

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  • #202
Yes I’ve so wondered about those trips even more when they left out what she bought . Is there anything petco sells that could’ve used to....ugh well hurt him like pet medication or anything? Obviously she went twice which seems like it means something .
Petco sells all the varieties of products to clean up blood, pee, and vomit because....well......pets!

Wanna' bet T bought some?!
 
  • #203
I thought from the start that LS killed him in a fit of rage and then spent the rest of the time covering up the crime. I was absolutely stunned when the charges of premeditation were released, the whole thing is just too messy.

That said, there are a couple of things that seem to lend themselves to deliberate premeditation like the search for whether Nintendo can locate a switch or whether a ‘parent can track my phone’. Supposedly he was alive in the truck when this search was made. Either the event had already happened or she was staging for a future attack.

The ‘can my parent track my phone’ search, iirc, took place while she was at PetCo. Within minutes of Gannon texting AS and asking if he could play Zelda, there’s a search that sets up a potential runaway situation. He ran away because he wasn’t allowed to play his switch, for example.

The whole sequence of events seem like a set up to stage a runaway situation, which makes me think that whatever happened, it took place Sunday night.

Having seen the AA and the google searches for whether LS is allowed to leave a child unattended might be because she was planning on making it look like he a) runaway at an undetermined time because she was out when it happened, or b) there was a home invasion and an intruder killed him.

The photo of him in bed at 8 that morning is odd, unless it’s part of the staging and she has made sure there is no blood visible in the picture. But then it would have been stupid to then change the bedding before reporting him missing because it messes with her staging!

I can’t reconcile the fact that he was not only alive and walking but that he also supposedly dropped the switch in the RD Video of him leaving with her at 10ish. Wasn’t he banned from playing it as punishment?

So much of it is nonsensical. I can’t get over the amount of evidence they have against her to believe it was premeditated. But then, there is the video of him leaving in the truck, clearly walking and alive at 10am...

It’s chilling!
 
  • #204
Thank you @Seattle1 and @Cindizzi - for the info on the hearing change! Had not seen that. Changing my notes...
 
  • #205
The actual trial is so far away and we will likely hear so many rumors of HH and what her plans are as far as her cooperation. I doubt DDA Allen will tell us anything.

I am hoping there is something good and decent inside her that will cause her to just sit with LE and answer questions truthfully. Maybe she doesn’t realize that her answers would be crucial to finding the truth.
Just living daily with someone and knowing their routines can give LE a lot of answers.

I wonder if AS had to be gone a lot due to his job and it left him clueless.
I also wonder if he was fed up with life having to be about her one hundred percent of the time. She was certainly high maintenance.

He did say he gave more to her than anyone. I can’t imagine his anger and guilt right now.


I feel the same way -- AS has to be smothering under a cloud of guilt and regret. He's likely beating himself up over not recognizing the extent Tee would go to -- to protect herself and to get her way.

I also agree about HH. There could have been some dynamic in the home that pitted Tee and HH against GS. JMO. MOO. HH sure does show up assisting Tee a whole lot in the AA. I've known two blended families with wicked in-fighting between step-siblings.

Based on the AA, to me it is apparent that HH is in Tee's corner, and we are not privy to what went on in that house, so it's very difficult to judge it fairly.

What we do know is that Tee did something so horrible that she ought not see the light of day outside prison walls again. The trajectory of HH's life has been changed forever, and how she chooses to handle this situation will determine what kind of woman she eventually becomes.

I still want to know what a 17 year old was doing working on a school day -- the day GS likely perished.
 
  • #206
I’m with you on this one. I do believe she premeditated this and thought about it for awhile. She was full of rage and yet, I don’t think this killing was spur of the moment just to cover a one time abuse.


I agree as well. There was a personality conflict between the two -- the likes of which is extremely rare -- but deadly when it occurs.

That does not excuse what Tee did -- nothing can excuse that -- but it was likely a factor in her plan to off her stepson. The question for me now is what did HH know and when did she know it?
 
  • #207
The theory, proposed here by someone upthread, that makes the most sense to me, regarding the switch, is that it was spattered, impossible to clean, so she discarded it with the bedding. Later to worry it could be trackable.

JMO
 
  • #208
Pure speculation:

There seems to be a lot confusion about exactly how and when she lost her job. Unless her google searches were trying to set up an alibi (or something), then it seemed like she was conflicted about staying home with gannon or going to work and leaving him home alone.

Maybe she received an email monday morning informing her that she no longer had a job and this is what set her off? She felt that it was GS's fault that she got fired?

The fact that she called in sick means that she believed she still had a job.

Obviously, I'm basing this on nothing, so the odds of this being the case a slim. Also, by her searching for other jobs (flight attendant?), maybe she already knew that this teaching job wasn't going to work out? So would getting fired be that upsetting?

JMO
 
  • #209
I find it interesting that her lies INCLUDED LE at times. Like the cornering outside the store and they drew guns on her and her daughter... this woman cannot stop lying every time she opens her mouth, like it's honestly a total disorder at this point.
 
  • #210
You can see it in Gray Hughes video. He plays it several times so you can see the shadow appear and then go away over and over again. Imo

Sorry if this has been mentioned already, but if GS did return to the house after the shopping trip on Monday as LE has concluded & he got out of the truck on the other side, then it appears he exited the truck independently & quickly. Therefore, it appears the assumption that he was sluggish, drugged, or injured when entering the truck at 10am is incorrect. Has this been discussed here at all?
 
  • #211
What a mess TS made of her "American Dream."

In her own words, "A normal person doesn't do that."

Just like she uses words to create confusion, in this case, she also used cars, locations, bits of truths and mountains of deception.

Let's don't forget that, as of that Sunday night, she had the first mess to clean up. Carpet, couch, smoke, blood. That may have been BEFORE a second incident and possibly a third.

It's seemingly impossible to pin her down because her stories and her words are amped up.

Me personally, I think up to a point on that Sunday/Monday, she was still operating on damage control, clean up, cover up, call in sick and it wasn't until morning that she switched to premeditation for murder.

I think what's most confusing is how confused SHE was.

Leave her phone home to prevent tracking. But bring Gannon's. Use Gannon's phone to set up his fake text but then also use Gannon's phone (the text to HH) to presplain leaving hers (purposefully) at home.

Needing the appearance of Gannon being at home at 3:15, TO leave (to fit her runaway story).

She never intended for anyone to know they were gone from 10 to 2 IMO. Except for HH. That ONE TEXT stands out to me sharply. Why? Why did she need HH to be able to reach her?????

And leaving her phone at home? WAS it meant to show she'd been home all day? Surely she would have known her (lack of) movements would be recorded by ADT...

It remains, she was up to no good between 10 and 2, specifically 11 and 1.

He never came home with her. That's the one thing she fought hard to make us believe otherwise.

JMO JMO JMO
 
  • #212
The theory, proposed here by someone upthread, that makes the most sense to me, regarding the switch, is that it was spattered, impossible to clean, so she discarded it with the bedding. Later to worry it could be trackable.

JMO
Agreed. And at one point she was worried Nintendo could track that switch. Find switch then find bloody bedding.
 
  • #213
Pure speculation:

There seems to be a lot confusion about exactly how and when she lost her job. Unless her google searches were trying to set up an alibi (or something), then it seemed like she was conflicted about staying home with gannon or going to work and leaving him home alone.

Maybe she received an email monday morning informing her that she no longer had a job and this is what set her off? She felt that it was GS's fault that she got fired?

The fact that she called in sick means that she believed she still had a job.

Obviously, I'm basing this on nothing, so the odds of this being the case a slim. Also, by her searching for other jobs (flight attendant?), maybe she already knew that this teaching job wasn't going to work out? So would getting fired be that upsetting?

JMO
Yes, the fact that she called in sick means that she believed she still had a job.
I agree...
 
  • #214
**for clarification , below I'm pondering her initial report and there for initial idea/plan. not the revolving adaptable fluid follow ons.**

wondering why LS chose the after 3.15 time slot to establish the run away narrative.
what did she tell LE she was doing all day till that point?(she didn't know about RD video then)
why not have utilized that 4hours she was out and about in that theory??
if she left gannon at home because he was unwell at 11 years old isn't really that diabolical in my books. especially when we all have phones to check in constantly.
she had to be up to something nefarious to leave her phone behind.
the intention and time allowed for it.

that damn RD VIDEO makes everything not gel.
the candle video another layer of complication/implication.
the photo of gannon in his bed that morning bizzaar.

if gannon had of died through the night or before 10am Monday I think she would have utilized the time in the runaway theory.
so....her not including the middle of the day into the run away theory supports he was indeed with her as the video suggests.

hope that makes sense.
I wonder if there was the possibility she snuck home in that duration and cleaned or worse made the mess to clean o_O

moo
 
  • #215
One thing I haven't seen discussed, but I've had to skip a lot of pages so perhaps it was discussed, is whether she shot him in the house. The AA seems to suggest he died there if I'm reading it right, and her charges include use of a firearm, so did she shoot him while he lay in bed? That would explain the blood splatters on the wall, but she would have risked someone hearing the shot. Being in a basement, however, might have muffled the sound.
 
  • #216
What a mess TS made of her "American Dream."

In her own words, "A normal person doesn't do that."

Just like she uses words to create confusion, in this case, she also used cars, locations, bits of truths and mountains of deception.

Let's don't forget that, as of that Sunday night, she had the first mess to clean up. Carpet, couch, smoke, blood. That may have been BEFORE a second incident and possibly a third.

It's seemingly impossible to pin her down because her stories and her words are amped up.

Me personally, I think up to a point on that Sunday/Monday, she was still operating on damage control, clean up, cover up, call in sick and it wasn't until morning that she switched to premeditation for murder.

I think what's most confusing is how confused SHE was.

Leave her phone home to prevent tracking. But bring Gannon's. Use Gannon's phone to set up his fake text but then also use Gannon's phone (the text to HH) to presplain leaving hers (purposefully) at home.

Needing the appearance of Gannon being at home at 3:15, TO leave (to fit her runaway story).

She never intended for anyone to know they were gone from 10 to 2 IMO. Except for HH. That ONE TEXT stands out to me sharply. Why? Why did she need HH to be able to reach her?????

And leaving her phone at home? WAS it meant to show she'd been home all day? Surely she would have known her (lack of) movements would be recorded by ADT...

It remains, she was up to no good between 10 and 2, specifically 11 and 1.

He never came home with her. That's the one thing she fought hard to make us believe otherwise.

JMO JMO JMO

Just wanted to add one thing that may help with understanding why she took Gannons phone.
IMO I believe the moment she hurt him the first time, then that is the moment she immediately confiscated his phone from him so that he could not "tell Dad" about what she just did to him. She may have had it as early as Sunday night if that is when the first incident happened with the carpet and couch.

When we see him entering the car and looking injured or sick, I believe she had already confiscated his phone way before then. She had it the whole time and would not give it back to him because she needed to keep him from talking to his Dad and telling on her.

I think in the AA there is even a text from Gannon's phone to the Dad asking if he could play a game and I think by then she was catfishing and pretending to be Gannon but using his phone to the Dad.

So since she already had his phone then when she left the house on Monday she figured she could leave her phone at home and keep it off to prevent LE tracking her phone. Her mistake was having to use his phone to text the Dad to let him know to text Gannon's phone if he wanted to talk to her because that pretty much gave it away anyway what she was doing. She started worrying about the Dad trying to text her and things like that.
 
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  • #217
One thing I haven't seen discussed, but I've had to skip a lot of pages so perhaps it was discussed, is whether she shot him in the house. The AA seems to suggest he died there if I'm reading it right, and her charges include use of a firearm, so did she shoot him while he lay in bed? That would explain the blood splatters on the wall, but she would have risked someone hearing the shot. Being in a basement, however, might have muffled the sound.

IMO
Yeah, we have discussed and its still an open debate because its hard to tell for sure on that neighbors video if he may have exited out the other passenger side or not when LS got back.

I have flip flopped on whether she either killed him in the basement or whether he never came home from when we see them both leaving Monday on the neighbors video.

For the theory that he never came home after being seen leaving with LS on the neighbors video, I could see where maybe she clubbed or punched poor Gannon in the head with something which may have made his nose bleed and splatter everywhere in the basement. Then she may have cleaned him up as best she could ("good to go" she even said at some point) and told him they were going to the Doctor Monday. Which could explain why he looked so out of it if she had injured him badly in the basement. In that theory, he never returned.

But then we have the Affidavit and that describes a different theory of him being killed in the house. So I can see it either way and its tough to decide because the video is not totally conclusive if he came back or not.
 
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  • #218
I also don't see GS exiting his dad's truck in the video. However, I've learned that motion cameras do not always pick up every detail and when I see that LS backed the truck up in the driveway next to another vehicle, I think it's possible GS exited on the passenger side -- maybe even after LS-- and his actions may not have been detected, or recorded on the surveillance camera. MOO

We have a Ring doorbell that sometimes glitches and it is only a few months old. It will show a person come out of the house and then kind of stalls and then suddenly the person is ten feet away. You don’t see them walk the ten feet.

It sounds like there are different systems around the neighborhood so the LE should have video of what they need even though we haven’t seen it.

She probably never thought about surveillance when she told the stories about Eguardo and Quincy coming in and going out. I wonder if they ran into each other.

Does the house have a back door or do you always have to enter from the front?
 
  • #219
Maybe she "forgot" her phone at home so she didn't have to explain why she didn't answer it.

If she was planning on killing Gannon while out Monday, it would have been darned inconvenient for her phone to ring in the middle of it. But at the same time, if she was driving around lost or just running errands why wouldn't she answer her phone? (Because she "forgot" it at home).
 
  • #220
We have a Ring doorbell that sometimes glitches and it is only a few months old. It will show a person come out of the house and then kind of stalls and then suddenly the person is ten feet away. You don’t see them walk the ten feet.

It sounds like there are different systems around the neighborhood so the LE should have video of what they need even though we haven’t seen it.

She probably never thought about surveillance when she told the stories about Eguardo and Quincy coming in and going out. I wonder if they ran into each other.

Does the house have a back door or do you always have to enter from the front?
It has a sliding glass door into backyard.
 
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