Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #43

[Cindizzi]

Correct me if I’m wrong on any of this.

TS is believed to have dumped Gannon’s body on the evening of the 28th. The tracking device put her back in the area on the evening of the 31st (between roughly 415 to 515).

The interview with Spencer was also on the 31st, and we know she had company (someone driving a moving truck).

So she must have left the interview, traveled to the dumpsite, and gathered Gannon’s remains then. My guess is that she hit the road immediately after that.

That’s how I’m seeing it. The AA states that TS utilized the rented Altima from January 30 - February 1. So if not that night, the next day they left town. IMO
Remember they had a tracker on that vehicle. So do you think they know for sure TS was the one to return the Altima on February 1 ?

 

[pcrum12]

I don't think it's a question of many being quick to dismiss what's given in the AA. The AA contains two elements: one, the factual evidence they have collected and two, the assumptions/theories/conclusions they made, at that time, based on the evidence they had. No one that I have seen disputes the evidence. What is up for discussion and what many challenge are the assumptions they made at that time, based on that evidence. For example, at that time, they had no body, but based on the evidence they had, they concluded he had been murdered. That's valid: blood, proof a violence occurred, no one seeing him after that date, her changing stories, etc. They built a pretty good case. But they at no time in the AA make the statement that the volume of blood they found was inconsistent with life. Hence, it's possible that the violence that resulted in the blood wasn't the cause of his death. Fact: blood. Fact: no one has seen him since. Fact: last person to see him keeps changing stories. Fact: bedding changed from morning to evening. Conclusion: Murder in the bedroom. Conclusion: he must have returned home with her. But none of those facts alone proves a murder took place. That conclusion came as a result of all the facts added up together. And the conclusion he must have returned home was arrived at as a result of the first conclusion. Point: we can accept the facts and even accept some of the conclusions. But all of those theories are up for debate, just as they will be for a jury.

Very well said

 

[MsBetsy]

rsabbm
I don't know that its plenty of time to clean up.
heres why.
the other day one of my usually adorable but snoopy fury friends scouted out the easter bunny stash and devoured an enormous easter egg including the foil.
was so sick she had probably about 4 projectile vomits in random places in my home.
it was all consuming cleaning up for 2 days to remove all traces and smell.
I was thinking about TS the whole time and wondering how frenzied the clean up must have been.
it makes more sense to me she had all night sunday and into Monday to get done what she had to.
that afternoon window just seems way too small for the crime and the clean up to satisfactory level ready to call police.
she didn't know when she rang at 7pm ish that they wouldn't arrive for 3 extra hours.
I still reckon she would have been a busy bee for every second waiting for them to rock up even then.

eta I'm not saying specifically she must have killed him so early but that blood bath in his room needed extensive time to pull together. and if there were droplets right through out the house. its just hard to see her having enough time in the arvo??

moo

Well, if KK managed to clean up Frazee's brutal murder scene in 3 or 4 hours, I'm guessing TS could, too.

 

[MassGuy]

That’s how I’m seeing it. The AA states that TS utilized the rented Altima from January 30 - February 1. So if not that night, the next day they left town. IMO
Remember they had a tracker on that vehicle. So do you think they know for sure TS was the one to return the Altima on February 1 ?

Hopefully they know. Most places have cameras, and phone data would also help make that determination.

 

[Feistyomi]

I know it’s trivial at this point but how could they possibly be earning over $180k? A teacher assistant and a Reserve? Doesn’t seem possible.

Gannon...

There is no way that figure is correct... but
it has to relate to something? Insurance
policy? Ransom...

ETA, I have family in the guard, even w/ re
enlistment bonuses...nope...smh

 

[RaspberryMama]

Correct me if I’m wrong on any of this.

TS is believed to have dumped Gannon’s body on the evening of the 28th. The tracking device put her back in the area on the evening of the 31st (between roughly 415 to 515).

The interview with Spencer was also on the 31st, and we know she had company (someone driving a moving truck).

So she must have left the interview, traveled to the dumpsite, and gathered Gannon’s remains then. My guess is that she hit the road immediately after that.

DBM Someone else already asked.

 

[HaikuMommy]

Reading thru this timeline, how did she get to the airport to get the tiguan? They note she left short term parking at 7pm. They assume HH picked her up at 10:30, likely she parked the tiguan somewhere at a shopping center. They don't say HH dropped her off at the airport, they note her phone showing her at home. They don't note that she left short term parking in the Kia at 11ish, which would mean she drove herself.


So why didn't she drive herself in the kia, and if not HH, who drove her to get the tiguan? And what the heck is she telling people at this point in the search for GS other than "I have his body in my car and need to dispose" such that no red flags were raised by these folks?

I assume she either got a ride to the airport from a family member (HH or auntie), or drove the Kia and returned it to the airport? Then she got into the Tiguan, drove it to where she dumped Gannon. She also washed the Tiguan right before the scheduled interview with investigators on the 29th. Surveillance video caught it at the car wash at 11:30am on the 29th. LS then arrived at EPSO office for the interview with detectives at 12 noon, two hours late (where they seized the still-wet Tiguan).

 

[GordianKnot]

Do we know what time the interview was? Could she have already gone back for the body by then? Which vehicle did she use and who was with her?

I'm wondering how she managed to retrieve the body, drive it all the way to Florida and dump it without anyone else knowing.

BBM:

It strikes me that TS is a person who's surrounded by people who live by the collective motto:
"See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil"

They turn a blind eye to her evil actions.
They turn a deaf ear and pretend they can't hear the lies spewing out of her mouth.
They stay silent rather than confront and/or disclose her vile behavior.

They're enablers.

As far as I'm concerned, the people who have enabled TS along the way are morally complicit in GS's murder.

Some of them may, in fact, be legally complicit.

I think some of the people closest to her suspected she was the one responsible for GS's disappearance, and helped her, anyway.

Shame on them.

JMO.

 

[DTPeke]

With other people in tow. The man in the van and the "aunt". TS in the other vehicle with HH and another "aunt". Then someone else knows something. And I absolutely believe someone or some people do.

The scary thing is Leigh Egan on Websleuths last night states one of LS aunts believes in her complete innocence.

Apparently in a conversation with an Aunt and then another with LS.

It was suggested Gannon had a secret watch that he communicated with Landen on. Some pea brained story that LH had him runaway or he ran away to get to her. He was picked up by someone and taken to her in South Carolina.

It was also implied blood was planted and crime scene was compromised by family living there.

Unsure of the timing of when Leigh had these calls but it is similar to things I/we have read online.

 

[Hatfield]

If she had killed him in the bedroom and moved him quickly, would the dogs have picked it up that fast? How long after death can cadaver dogs pick up the scent? Is it immediate?

Its a great question and I found an article that tries to answer it below. With that said, some dogs are better than others and more importantly some handlers are better than others, so we have to keep that in mind at all times when dogs are used in cases.

"One of the questions surrounding human cadaver dogs is how soon after death they can recognise a corpse"

"Several squares had been placed beneath a clothed corpse within three hours of death, when some organs and many cells of the human body are still functioning. Over the next month, the dogs did hundreds of trials in which they signalled the contaminated square with 98 per cent accuracy, falling to 94 per cent when the square had been in contact with the corpse for only two minutes. The research concluded that cadaver dogs were an "outstanding tool" for crime-scene investigation."

The CSI death dogs: Sniffing out the truth behind the crime-scene

 

[HaikuMommy]

So the story hit the news at around 6pm on the 31st. You have to factor in the interview process itself, as well as the lag time between the interview and it being distributed.

So I think the interview came first, but there’s no way to know for sure.

Unless someone on here wants to message Spencer...

Spencer Wilson on Twitter

At this link it says the story was posted at 2:41pm PST, 3:41 pm Mountain. Definitely prior to her car being at the dump site.
VIDEO: Letecia Stauch, stepmom of Gannon Stauch, spoke to 11 News on Jan. 31. She was arrested March 2

 

[wyome]

I know it’s trivial at this point but how could they possibly be earning over $180k? A teacher assistant and a Reserve? Doesn’t seem possible.

The average teacher assistant in CO makes between $25K-$29K. He was active duty Reserve? Can't imagine that pays $150K @ year.

 

[MassGuy]

At this link it says the story was posted at 2:41pm PST, 3:41 pm Mountain. Definitely prior to her car being at the dump site.
VIDEO: Letecia Stauch, stepmom of Gannon Stauch, spoke to 11 News on Jan. 31. She was arrested March 2

Thanks. I also didn’t factor in that Twitter shows the time for your time zone. I’m East Coast, so that’s two hours right there.

So the interview came first, then she went to retrieve Gannon’s body.

 

[Cindizzi]

BBM:

It strikes me that TS is a person who's surrounded by people who live by the collective motto:
"See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil"

They turn a blind eye to her evil actions.
They turn a deaf ear and pretend they can't hear the lies spewing out of her mouth.
They stay silent rather than confront and/or disclose her vile behavior.

They're enablers.

AFAIC, the people who have enabled TS along the way are morally complicit in GS's murder.

Some of them may, in fact, be legally complicit.

I think some of the people closest to her strongly suspected she was the one responsible for GS's disappearance.

JMO.

Spencer posted the link to interview at 4:10 p.m. on January 31.

Spencer Wilson on Twitter

prior to that tweet, he posted theses pictures and video at 3:05 pm.

Spencer Wilson on Twitter

I had heard that the interview was around Noon that day. The amount of daylight seems to suggest that to me. Have heard that he and his crew were out there covering the neighborhood “ turning it blue for Gannon “ and LS approached him, he did not seek her out. Boy did that backfire on her. JMO

 

[HaikuMommy]

Per the AA, this looks like the timeline regarding where Gannon's body was. Let me know if you think I got anything wrong!

Monday, January 27:
LS killed Gannon in his bed after 2:15pm. Put the particleboard into the trunk of the Tiguan to protect it. Loaded his body into a suitcase, wheeled it up the basement stairs to the garage, and then into the back of the Tiguan (atop the particleboard). A few drops of blood fell on the garage floor here. Gannon's body likely remained in the Tiguan until the 28th.

Tuesday, January 28:
At 8:30am LS rents a Kia in Colorado Springs, leaving Tiguan. 8:48 am Letecia texts and asks HH to move her car into the garage (parking over where a blood stain was). 8:50am Letecia picks up Al at airport. Tracking data shows the Tiguan later leave the Colorado Springs Airport at 7pm on the evening of the 28th. Then tracking shows between 9:15pm and 9:30pm, LS takes the Tiguan containing Gannon's body to the initial dump site where the particleboard was later found. This is likely when she first dropped off the suitcase with Gannon's body, along with the bloody particleboard.

Friday, January 31st:
Between 4 and 5:15pm according to the tracking device (AFTER the Spencer interview?*), Letecia returns to the dump site in her rented Nissan Altima. In the AA, it is supposed by LE she went back to the dump site to see if LE were there, survey how well hidden the body was. But this was before they found him 1400 miles away; now it seems obvious she RETRIEVED his body around 5pm on the 31st, leaving behind the bloody particleboard and a sock, which were found later on Feb. 15 when LE searched the area (after obtaining tacking data from the Tiguan and the Nissan Altima).

Sometime thereafter began the trip to the final dump site in Florida.

*This link shows the Spencer interview was posted at 2:41pm PST on the 31st (3:41pm in Colorado): VIDEO: Letecia Stauch, stepmom of Gannon Stauch, spoke to 11 News on Jan. 31. She was arrested March 2

Here's a timeline I came up with earlier today

 

[UnapologeticallyAspie]

I can no longer see the rest after David, can somebody please post the link for me again? Thank you so much!

 

[Cindizzi]

I can no longer see the rest after David, can somebody please post the link for me again? Thank you so much!

https://www.courts.state.co.us/user..._Paso/Stauch/Stauch FINAL redacted 040120.pdf

 

[UnapologeticallyAspie]

https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/El_Paso/Stauch/Stauch FINAL redacted 040120.pdf

Thank you so much!!

 

[MsBetsy]

Gannon...

There is no way that figure is correct... but
it has to relate to something? Insurance
policy? Ransom...

We need to know how to speak "Letecian" to figure that one out.

I think the number came directly from her imagination.

Imo

 

[k-mac]

Well, if KK managed to clean up Frazee's brutal murder scene in 3 or 4 hours, I'm guessing TS could, too.

hey msbetsy

yeah but that's all kk had to do. nobody knew she was there.

LS had to keep the wheels turning of normal life including taking care of a young child and alibiing her time up.
TS had 300% more to contend with that day.
I cant see the comparison.
moo