Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #43

[Megnut]

Great thought. Because what the hell would a cardboard box have to do with anything?

A suitcase for “Eduargo” to put Gannon’s body in, and a cardboard box for what?

So either the box is really that board, or he was put on top of cardboard as well. Who knows though?

It's good for us to remember that TS knows EVERYTHING that occurred, but what she DIDN'T KNOW was what LE KNEW! She is a volunteer! Volunteering all sorts of evidence before LE released it. I think it could be a 100% certainty that a cardboard box features into this sad story. Perhaps that's how the bedding left the house....

Consider this: she gathers up bedding, clothing, cleaning rags, etc on Monday morning (or afternoon, depending on which ordering of events you subscribe to) and dumps it in the utility room temporarily. Perfect place to find a moving box!

Another fine example of TS telling on herself.

JMO

 

[MerryB]

Great thought. Because what the hell would a cardboard box have to do with anything?

A suitcase for “Eduargo” to put Gannon’s body in, and a cardboard box for what?

So either the box is really that board, or he was put on top of cardboard as well. Who knows though?

I’m imagining a box from the utility room that might be noticed as missing. Perhaps it held old paint cans or tile remnants. She could’ve hidden bedding, clothing, the Switch, whatever needed hidden in the box until she could get rid of it.

 

[GordianKnot]

Great thought. Because what the hell would a cardboard box have to do with anything?

A suitcase for “Eduargo” to put Gannon’s body in, and a cardboard box for what?

So either the box is really that board, or he was put on top of cardboard as well. Who knows though?

BBM:

It's "Eguardo," dude. With a "g." How many times I gotta' tell you?

Your horrendous spelling notwithstanding, in answer to your question r/t why TS would need a cardboard box:

She may have used a cardboard box to transport all the bloody household items, e.g., comforter, sheets, pillows, etc., to wherever she tossed them.

It would have made a whole lot more sense for her to use regular plastic trash bags to dispose of that stuff, which is why I'm going to go with her using a cardboard box instead, on account of she's a complete and utter moron.

She's incapable of doing the most sensible thing in any given situation.

JMO.

 

[Angels Advocate]

Maybe, but knowing the logistics would help us reach a conclusion based on facts.

Was she alone? Where was the body? Is there a reasonable explanation for someone not knowing? Did she need help from a willing participant?

Things like that

Simply - she had help. We will learn the details later. Yes she did need help because she was brain dead before this happened. And yet she eluded arrest for over one month after the murder in spite of leaving behind so much forensic evidence ... and after driving all over the country. Someone knew what she did and helped her.

 

[MassGuy]

Simply - she had help. We will learn the details later. Yes she did need help because she was brain dead before this happened. And yet she eluded arrest for over one month after the murder.

She’s brain dead now.

The length of time that it takes to make an arrest is not a reflection of how well a crime is carried out. As we know, she couldn’t have possibly made any more mistakes than she did.

It took time to carry out that testing (to include that board that was found in mid February), and obtain enough evidence via phone tap.

She may have had help, but there is a difference between someone being an unwitting participant, and a willing accessory.

One is not a crime, the other is.

We don’t have the specifics with which to make a judgement.

 

[AmandaReckonwith]

If I'm not mistaken, it was AS, another man (his brother?) and his mother. If you look back in the media archives by @AmandaReckonwith at the beginning of this thread you can find it. It's in picture stills that were taken from a news report.

Dated 1/29/20. For sure it's Al and his Mom; idk about the other man, but brother, maybe.
1/29/20 Stauch home

 

[LietKynes]

Maybe she wants a military man because he would be away a lot. Gives her more time to herself without a husband to interfere in whatever she has going on.

bbm
Great point !
She could be selling expensive purses...or whatever she was doing.
My guess is not -- being a homemaker/caring for the kids.
Her internet searches showed dissatisfaction with her current life.
Whatever.
I could care less about her 'problems'.
She could have walked way !

 

[squareandrabbet]

Not sure they can include misleading information like that.

I don't think it has anything to do with "misleading" per se.

Primarily because I feel I've previously seen arrest warrants that list "John/Jane Doe(s)", I feel LE looks for information based upon what they have; and don't worry too much about whether or not it is accurate. I think they have such a name there only because LS gave it to them; and not because they have any feelings one way or another as to whether or not he exists, to be proven later.

Welp, I'm about 10 pages behind again. Do any of you ever sleep?

Can someone please help me out with the following?

I've read AA #55 over and over again. It is referencing the photo LS took Monday morning that shows the upper left corner of the bed pulled away from the wall.

The photo was taken that morning. Bear with me please. I know many are saying this means it is possible that an attack occurred Sunday night, the cleaning was done overnight and that's why the bed is out from the wall Monday morning.

I'm not sure because of the way #55 is worded...

"Another photo was recovered from Letecia's cell phone that shows his bed was not pushed directly against the wall by the head of the bed. This photo articulates the ability for blood to get onto the walls and floor in the corner of the bedroom. Mr. Stauch stated the positioning of the bed is unusual and the bed is usually pushed against the wall."

BBM. I am reading that bolded part this way:

This photo, the one specifically showing a space between the wall and the bed, speaks clearly (articulates) to how blood was able to get onto the walls and floor in the corner of the bedroom.

Honestly, I keep trying to read it another way and just can't. To me, it seems to be saying the bed was pulled away from the wall before any attack.

Now, I'm not saying no cleaning was done Sunday night... cleaning that area of some blood or vomit, etc. very well could have happened. I just think the bed was not yet pushed back into the corner when the main attack occurred.

@GordianKnot I'm tagging you because I know you've paid attention to this photo and the significance of it. I would love hear your thoughts about this as well as anyone else's.

If you're correct in your summation that an alternate explanation is required, I'm guessing that this explanation would be, "LS grabbed leg of bed with Gannon in it; and pulled the entire bed towards her in a fit of rage."

I think hockey stick is a possibility for Sunday, mainly because she specifically mentioned going to Play-it-Again Sports. (Whatever happened to that story? When did she say she went there?) As for the murder weapon, though, it would leave a big arc of blood spatter, I would guess, as a hockey stick is so long. I'm envisioning the blood on the bedroom walls as contained. But for Sunday, makes some sense.

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I also think he might have actually been burned since she mentioned it. She said his skin bubbled, though doesn't that usually take some into the healing process? Anyone know?

jmo

Do second-degree burns bubble skin and cause blood? The majority of people I know, would cause this effect "blistering", but then again, this is birdbrain Tee we're talking about. I, personally, know of no type of burn blister that leaks blood; and nor, it seems, does the medical industry, though I grant there may be some wiggle room in terms of the "dark shiny red" noted below:

Burn blister: First aid, treatment, and types of burns

to the best of my knowledge, the only type of remotely surface "blister" that results in bleeding, is a "blood blister", which is the result of pinching/compression.

If I were LE, and based upon my link, I'd be almost certain that zero blood issues from any small burn lesser than fourth-degree in nature; unless we're talking about new skin so fragile that it cracks if it dries while the body is trying to rebuild it.

 

[Inthedetails]

bbm
Great point !
She could be selling expensive purses...or whatever she was doing.
My guess is not -- being a homemaker/caring for the kids.
Her internet searches showed dissatisfaction with her current life.
Whatever.
I could care less about her 'problems'.
She could have walked way !

I don't know what her attraction to military men is, but perhaps she grew up in a home with unstable employment for her parents (I don't know if that is the case) and her own employment wasn't stable (her own fault), so the reliable paycheck and benefits of a military spouse might look really great.

jmo

 

[Megnut]

BBM:

It's "Eguardo," dude. With a "g." How many times I gotta' tell you?

Your horrendous spelling notwithstanding, in answer to your question r/t why TS would need a cardboard box:

She may have used a cardboard box to transport all the bloody household items, e.g., comforter, sheets, pillows, etc., to wherever she tossed them.

It would have made a whole lot more sense for her to use regular plastic trash bags to dispose of that stuff, which is why I'm going to go with her using a cardboard box instead, on account of she's a complete and utter moron.

She's incapable of doing the most sensible thing in any given situation.

JMO.

I think it's very possible she pitched all the bedding into the utility room between 8:15 and 10:15 (or 2:15 and later:15, if you prefer). Later stuffing it into an instantly repurposed cardboard moving box, and THAT is what left blood on the floor of the garage where she set it, on the tailgate where she hoisted it, and in her vehicle where her grubby little hands deposited it. If she had a soggy box on her hands, she may indeed have had the foresight to lay some plywood down in the back of her vehicle... which ultimately could explain how Gannon's DNA profile ended up on that board. Additionally, she may have transferred his DNA to the interior of her vehicle while folding and stowing seats to make room.... either way, I think the blood evidence in her car could be IMO explained by bloody sheets in a leaking box...

JMO but I think it's highly probable she was cleaning walls and floors between 2:15 and 6:15... I think the neighborhood surveillance will show that she moved her car into the garage and loaded it either while the girls were at the store or the park... or later that same evening.

What a SICK human being to claim Gannon cut his foot (because flower box, because Albert), Gannon sat on the edge of her car, Gannon walked back and forth to his exclusive gate when all along she knew that all that was left of him was blood soaked bedding, in an ever-dampening cardboard box.

Heinous.

JMO

 

[LietKynes]

Simply - she had help. We will learn the details later. Yes she did need help because she was brain dead before this happened. And yet she eluded arrest for over one month after the murder in spite of leaving behind so much forensic evidence ... and after driving all over the country. Someone knew what she did and helped her.

I think you have a very logical comment !
And I'm guessing there could be more arrests.

 

[squareandrabbet]

I've seen lots of photos of GS and Laina, and I've seen photos of HH and Tee together as well, but I don't think I've ever seen a photo where GS was with HH.

I'm concerned that there was a negative family dynamic in that household between step-siblings.

I don't know, HH seems pretty tractable; which would also work well for an incipient member of the military. Go take Laina here; go look for Gannon there; that doesn't sound like a hostile sibling relationship, though I suppose there's always room for a world in which HH spent the entire time verbally berating them for being pests, etc.

Agree. LS basically admits in her text (I’ve seen some say it was to her landlord, others have referred to her as a friend) that after the candle incident she & Gannon were covered in blood. I’m paraphrasing, but essentially she says they were under a blanket because of the smoke, and when she removed the blanket, she saw the blood. She doesn’t indicate how it happened, but admits she was afraid she’d get “fussed at” about it. She then says something like “you don’t understand how hard it is to be a step-parent.” IMO this is the most honest statement we have seen from her.

I don't understand this scenario, I really don't. It's like T is explaining a bomb detonation to the lady. If they're cowering in the corner together under a blanket; who's putting out the purported fire?

Agree. I’ve already posted on this, but I’m also sceptical that much can be gleaned from phots/SM evidence generated within a household so clearly controlled and choreographed by LS, especially tho perhaps not exclusively when AS was away. Who HH was or wasn’t photographed with, how “entitled” she may or may not have seemed in a YT vid — I understand the rationale but it reminds me a bit of those spot-the-blob exercises in the blurry BG video from the Delphi Murders.

My sense is that we won’t know much more about HH’s role until the case moves forward. I can’t see any circumstances under which she had sufficient power in the household to materially affect the adverse treatment and/or murder of Gannon, and I’d further guess that a fair bit of any earlier maltreatment happened out of sight, because it is a more attractive and safer option for an LS-type personality. I grew up in such a household, minus the murdering, and our recourse after years and years was to self-admit to hospital. We had tried nearly everything else. It is incredibly hard to turn against a lifetime’s habits in a few weeks, especially when those habits are founded on the ceaseless drumbeat of the victim complex of your primary caregiver. JMO and JME.

Yes, as I've said before so hopefully not too repetitive, there's a difference between the clear-headed, sharp-eyed individual who knows all their life that their parent is dishing out BS and can't wait to get away; and the "boil them in ever-increasing hot water, like they do the live frog". IMO, the frog-type of child takes a while to come out of the haze of confusion.

What a SICK human being to claim Gannon cut his foot (because flower box, because Albert), Gannon sat on the edge of her car, Gannon walked back and forth to his exclusive gate when all along she knew that all that was left of him was blood soaked bedding, in an ever-dampening cardboard box.

Heinous.

JMO

SABBM:

"Good to go."

 

[Inthedetails]

"Good to go."

omg, that is eerie.

Her bandage story was about how she loaded him in the Tiguan, good to go.

The story of him checking the gate over and over was her opening and closing the door 10x in one hour.

Every story is twisted (really twisted) truth. Creepy.



jmo

 

[Geneic]

Snipped.

I think you're on to something. It does make sense the bed was moved before the attack. The picture with Gannon sleeping shows it back in place, against the wall, though, doesn't it?

So - would it go something like this?

1. Gannon vomits during night.
2. TS moves the bed to clean.
3. TS takes a picture of bed moved after she cleaned but before returning bed to position. (Why take that photo?)
4. TS returns bed against the wall.
5. Gannon asleep - TS takes photos of him in bed.
6. TS murders Gannon and blood gets on wall.
7. TS cleans blood and changes linen.

Or are you thinking a different order?

jmo

The bed had to be pulled away from the wall at the time he was hit for blood spatter to be that low to the floor.

 

[MerryB]

I don't understand this scenario, I really don't. It's like T is explaining a bomb detonation to the lady. If they're cowering in the corner together under a blanket; who's putting out the purported fire?

Well, yes, it makes no logical sense, much like most of the scenarios Tee has given. But, like many have said, there is truth in her lies.
I imagine she was wailing on Gannon in a fury over the candle or whatever set her off, and he was the one crouching under his covers. She didn’t realize what she had done until she removed the blanket & saw blood. Then, she was afraid of what would happen if she sought him medical attention.
JMO on Sunday night‘s events.
“You don’t understand how hard it is to be a step-mom.”

 

[Catareeka]

I think Letecia has always been a pathological liar and that's why AS didn't believe anything she said about Gannon's disappearance. As someone who's lived with a pathological liar before, I can speak from experience that they will never take responsibility for their wrong doing and they will go to their grave acting like they are telling the truth because nothing is ever their fault. They make up lies about anything and everything. I think lying is a sickness that she's had for a long time and she has no morals. I just hate that AS got caught into her web.

 

[Catareeka]

Well, yes, it makes no logical sense, much like most of the scenarios Tee has given. But, like many have said, there is truth in her lies.
I imagine she was wailing on Gannon in a fury over the candle or whatever set her off, and he was the one crouching under his covers. She didn’t realize what she had done until she removed the blanket & saw blood. Then, she was afraid of what would happen if she sought him medical attention.
JMO on Sunday night‘s events.
“You don’t understand how hard it is to be a step-mom.”[/QUOTE

I think that you're onto something, maybe he did something to enrage her so he ran and got under his covers to hide from her and she chased after him and then beat him with something and she didn't realize the amount of damage until she took the covers off and saw he was seriously hurt.

 

[Geneic]

Great thought. Because what the hell would a cardboard box have to do with anything?

A suitcase for “Eduargo” to put Gannon’s body in, and a cardboard box for what?

So either the box is really that board, or he was put on top of cardboard as well. Who knows though?

Or maybe the bedding etc is in a cardboard box.

 

[susiQ]

BBM:

*"Eguardo."

There! Fixed it.

I finally make my way back here only to see you “two” are still at it “VOID?” You crack me up!

 

[Spartygirl]

I think you have a very logical comment !
And I'm guessing there could be more arrests.

Hmmm...I am on the fence with this. I dont think she had help but I wonder sometimes how the heck she pulled all this off without help.
Then I remind myself..she is a lunatic, an evil person, and YES, she could pull this off all by herself.
While there may be family member(s) that IMO, would have to have suspected something, I dont think they really knew. JMO