Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #43

[MassGuy]

Yes, I agree with you that this was their reason and that this has become standard practice.

However, it is my opinion, no matter how unpopular, that it amounts to misleading the public in a lie.

And that strikes you as being wrong?

 

[MemPat]

Yes, I agree with you that this was their reason and that this has become standard practice.

However, it is my opinion, no matter how unpopular, that it amounts to misleading the public in a lie.

I'm all for LE using tried-and-true techniques to get suspects spilling their guts or making mistakes and don't feel they owe the public a full reveal of what they know.

It's long been established with LE that you don't let a suspect know everything you know until it's useful or required by the court.

IIRC once one is named a suspect the clock starts ticking. Seems smart to hold off on that.

 

[Aloe]

Inyeresting, why do you say that?

Here it is: page 23 #147 in the Affidavit. https://ewscripps.brightspotcdn.com...fafdc11bbd78/stauch-final-redacted-040120.pdf

 

[Coloradokid]

I have missed a lot on here. What’s the most logical consensus explanation of the text about the sheet, the blood, and how hard it is to be a step-mom? That one was really odd. In fact, all of her half-sentences are so mysterious and just create more loose ends.

It is hard for me to believe she would have him in the back of her car and call the police, but stranger things have happened. So much doesn’t make sense. Petco. Leaving the phone. Explaining the video. We will have to wait, I guess. I still think she did it all alone. I still think she left that morning with the intention to get rid of him. I think there’s a reason no one heard anything from him... from the time she was up all night on Sunday through the next day - that no one spoke a word to him. So the last time anyone “saw” him was the pic in the morning and the neighbor’s video. The 4 hour trip. The weird call in. Not my “son is sick.” My step dad got hit and killed by a car. That’s an excuse you can only use twice.

I had an airtight theory at one point and my wife was telling me I had no clue. Haha. She was right.

 

[Aloe]

And that strikes you as being wrong?

I think it was wrong to lie for as long as they did, yes. After reading the AA it is pretty clear that they had it all figured out by the first week of February.

 

[MassGuy]

Here it is: page 23 #147 in the Affidavit. https://ewscripps.brightspotcdn.com...fafdc11bbd78/stauch-final-redacted-040120.pdf

She was clearly fishing. If you read the prior paragraph, it helps form the argument that no one told her a thing, but she knew she was a suspect because she killed Gannon.

Funny enough, she sent that text about an hour after likely dumping Gannon’s body.

 

[Boxer]

I couldn’t figure out what the gate lie was all about. I thought perhaps it was to explain blood evidence in the back yard. But This makes sense. It could have been in case a neighbor heard the door opening and closing 10x that day.

Since there is a door leading from the house into the garage and blood was found leading to it, why would she go to the much more exposed gate?
Is tbe door tbat opened 10x the door to the garage? I have to go back and look.

 

[Bbybluz]

IMOO: WARNING GRAPHIC THEORY

I am thinking poor G had to fight for his life! I think after the candle issue (recording broke my heart) he was either sent to his room or ran to it. My thought process is multiple theories. I am still gathering the little pieces for the details I can pinpoint down.

Bed away from the wall:
I could see him hiding under the bed (as I had done many times in my childhood) and being pulled out when he refused to come out because of being scared. If he hung on to the legs the bed would slide with him. He could very well have kicked her to get loose going back under & to the other side. She is furious & grabs a weapon of convenience to reach him. This would line up with the spray pattern & low enough to give blood access to the outlets & area below the mattress line.

“Truths within her lies” = twhl

TWHL- I do believe someone hit their head hard & passed out but it was G from her! Not her from Eg or QJ (forgot which one).

I think she put him in the bed & covered him up not tending to his wounds.

Goes to the store then starts cleaning.

Monday I think she cleaned him up, bandaged his head puts a hat on him & drugged him up some more. Helps him up the stairs to leave on their shopping trip.
The night before perhaps puts a tarp or spill proof cover on the back truck seat while out. The unaccounted timeframe in the afternoon was maybe spent scouting out the perfect place to dump him later. Also buying the bedding & pillow.
I also think she has kept him drugged to remain sleeping in the back seat. This is why she was looking nervous & out the window a lot at Petco to make sure he didn’t wake up & get out. They return home when they did & he was waking up scared in flight mode. Darts out the opposite rear door from her. She jumps out not knowing where he’s going or who will see. Chases him in the garage closes the door & takes poor G’s life right there in the pool of blood on the floor of the garage maybe with a hammer? I wouldn’t be surprised if they found him in a sealed off bag inside the suitcase. She then backs her car into the garage loads him up on top of the plywood & shuts the hatch at TIHL 3:15. It really is the last time she seen him in person. She then gathers all the discarding items & loads in her car through the 10x door alerts. The motion in up & down stairs is LS & dog. She finishes up around his bed & makes it with new bedding.

 

[MassGuy]

I think it was wrong to lie for as long as they did, yes. After reading the AA it is pretty clear that they had it all figured out by the first week of February.

We don’t know the precise reasons why they behaved the way they did. I can venture a guess though.

Had they informed the public she was a suspect, she may have lawyered up, and shut down.

Her lawyer would have told her to stop communicating with law enforcement, Al, and the media.

As we came to learn, she inflicted untold damage by not keeping her mouth shut. Law enforcement has many hours of recordings, something they likely wouldn’t have if she was receiving legal advice.

Those interviews with CrimeOnline certainly didn’t help either.

This is merely one possibility, and I’m sure there’s a lot more to their decision making than that.

Law enforcement owes us absolutely nothing, and there’s this bizarre sense of entitlement that plays out in cases like this (especially on social media).

I don’t understand why they should be expected to damage an ongoing investigation by providing information they don’t owe anyone, and contrary to achieving their goal.

Justice.

 

[Aloe]

She was clearly fishing. If you read the prior paragraph, it helps form the argument that no one told her a thing, but she knew she was a suspect because she killed Gannon.

Funny enough, she sent that text about an hour after likely dumping Gannon’s body.

Yes, she knew they likely had started collecting evidence other than her strange behavior and evasiveness. They were "hiding something" in the request for G-Man's toothbrush earlier on the 28th.

 

[Coloradokid]

Since there is a door leading from the house into the garage and blood was found leading to it, why would she go to the much more exposed gate?
Is tbe door tbat opened 10x the door to the garage? I have to go back and look.

97. “The back door of the residence.”

 

[LeBlack]

I have seen at least one photo of Gannon and HH together, looking happy. JMO

I've seen a video of the family on a trail. TS had to hog HH attention from the young ones.

 

[H73]

omg, that is eerie.

Her bandage story was about how she loaded him in the Tiguan, good to go.

The story of him checking the gate over and over was her opening and closing the door 10x in one hour.

Every story is twisted (really twisted) truth. Creepy.



jmo

kudos to linking the back door opening 10x to TS statement about gannon constantly checking the back gate.
I don’t remember hearing that theory before.
I kind of just dismissed it, but I should have known she was presplaining something significant.

 

[Bbybluz]

They suspected her from Day 2 (1/28) they never told the public they had a suspect or a POI until they arrested her on March 2. They were asked about it. JMO

If at day 2 they announced her as a POI she could have ran. Never leading them down her path of lies with hints of truths hidden inside. She has been giving them all the info (well most all) that they needed to find G’s body. To bring the best possible closure & peace to him and his loved ones. Plus JUSTICE FOR G in the best form of locking her up so no other children would ever fall prey to her.

For that outcome in the near future I will gladly remain in the dark & let LE do their job.

 

[Aloe]

We don’t know the precise reasons why they behaved the way they did. I can venture a guess though.

Had they informed the public she was a suspect, she may have lawyered up, and shut down.

Her lawyer would have told her to stop communicating with law enforcement, Al, and the media.

As we came to learn, she inflicted untold damage by not keeping her mouth shut. Law enforcement has many hours of recordings, something they likely wouldn’t have if she was receiving legal advice.

Those interviews with CrimeOnline certainly didn’t help either.

This is merely one possibility, and I’m sure there’s a lot more to their decision making than that.

Law enforcement owes us absolutely nothing, and there’s this bizarre sense of entitlement that plays out in cases like this (especially on social media).

I don’t understand why they should be expected to damage an ongoing investigation by providing information they don’t owe anyone, and contrary to achieving their goal.

Justice.

Good points, I agree with some and respect all.

 

[Coloradokid]

97. “The back door of the

Since there is a door leading from the house into the garage and blood was found leading to it, why would she go to the much more exposed gate?
Is tbe door tbat opened 10x the door to the garage? I have to go back and look.[/QUOTE

97. “The back door of the residence.”

also I just realized her story was to explain the ADT pings that she probably realized later.

 

[Aloe]

If at day 2 they announced her as a POI she could have ran. Never leading them down her path of lies with hints of truths hidden inside. She has been giving them all the info (well most all) that they needed to find G’s body. To bring the best possible closure & peace to him and his loved ones. Plus JUSTICE FOR G in the best form of locking her up so no other children would ever fall prey to her.

For that outcome in the near future I will gladly remain in the dark & let LE do their job.

She "ran" on day 2 to the location where she dumped blood evidence and/or G's body. And then on Day 5 to retrieve the body and take it to FL. If they had assigned a deputy to follow her they would have had the Tiguan and the body by Day 2.

 

[H73]

Yes, she knew they likely had started collecting evidence other than her strange behavior and evasiveness. They were "hiding something" in the request for G-Man's toothbrush earlier on the 28th.

Also I’m sure they came down on her hard for refusing to disclose the location of the Tig. I’m not sure how they were communicating with her at that point but I’m sure she knew either directly or thru Al that they wanted that vehicle immediately.

 

[Boxer]

I think it was wrong to lie for as long as they did, yes. After reading the AA it is pretty clear that they had it all figured out by the first week of February.

MOO Tbey didn't have Gannon yet so investigation was ongoing. Apparently they didn't have the car chip data till later as they started searching on Perry Rd. IIRC 2/12. Board found 2/15.
They arrested her 35 days after his murder.

 

[Bbybluz]

She "ran" on day 2 to the location where she dumped blood evidence and/or G's body. And then on Day 5 to retrieve the body and take it to FL. If they had assigned a deputy to follow her they would have had the Tiguan and the body by Day 2.

By “ran” in my post I meant she could have just left without his body, no clues where to start looking, no closure for the family.

Yes I agree with you if it were like the old days & not all this modern technology perhaps we could have had her & his body. But maybe not the best justice for G.

Remember without technology LE can’t work as fast as they can now. With technology the hands on tailing, stakeouts, and what have ya isn’t the mode of usefulness like it was. I see what ya mean too.