Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #43

[Aloe]

The EPCSO has laid the foundation for a case that LS murdered Gannon in his bedroom on the afternoon of 1/27, (if this has not changed due to now having the body as evidence).
There are some on WS that have posted what amounts to be beyond reasonable doubt.

What do you think a jury will do as such?

 

[Aloe]

MOO Tbey didn't have Gannon yet so investigation was ongoing. Apparently they didn't have the car chip data till later as they started searching on Perry Rd. IIRC 2/12. Board found 2/15.
They arrested her 35 days after his murder.

I definitely see your point. I'm just feeling like all this digital and electronic data hasn't always been around and LE functioned without it in the past by using their heads and legs...and cuffs.

And actually 35 days isn't a long time for to make an arrest but a long time to mislead in the way that they did JMOO

 

[Bbybluz]

The EPCSO has laid the foundation for a case that LS murdered Gannon in his bedroom on the afternoon of 1/27, (if this has not changed due to now having the body as evidence).
There are some on WS that have posted what amounts to be beyond reasonable doubt.

What do you think a jury will do as such?

Good question! I don’t feel qualified to give my opinion on that since I haven’t seen or heard the facts to base that on yet. Did I miss that in the AA? I’m old & might have skipped right over that.
I know they have had field experts in their doing their thing. So I’ll trust their reports.

 

[Bbybluz]

I definitely see your point. I'm just feeling like all this digital and electronic data hasn't always been around and LE functioned without it in the past by using their heads and legs...and cuffs.

I hear ya there! I really like the technology & system better these days myself. Don’t you think like anything else we need to keep our minds crisp & never forget past tried & true methods to weave together?

Like one day I would like to work in Forensic Genealogy. Bring closure to cold cases. Combining old & new methods for one result.

 

[Cindizzi]

Yes, she knew they likely had started collecting evidence other than her strange behavior and evasiveness. They were "hiding something" in the request for G-Man's toothbrush earlier on the 28th.

LS felt they were hiding something by telling her nothing was wrong by them asking for GS toothbrush. They didn’t lie to her.

The FBI has a plan in place for missing persons cases. They follow it by the book, step by step. Especially a missing child. They request something with the missing persons DNA or a family members DNA early in the case. Whether they suspect runaway, kidnapping or foul play, they will have DNA waiting to match to any evidence found.

Her consciousness of guilt made her think something wasn’t right with their request. An innocent parent would be more than happy to help LE .

LE didn’t have a lot of evidence pointing towards her in the first 24 hours, but they definitely had data and statistics that leads to scrutinizing the last adult to see a missing child.
I see no fault in the amount of time local LE and FBI took to build their case.
MOO

 

[Cindizzi]

The EPCSO has laid the foundation for a case that LS murdered Gannon in his bedroom on the afternoon of 1/27, (if this has not changed due to now having the body as evidence).
There are some on WS that have posted what amounts to be beyond reasonable doubt.

What do you think a jury will do as such?

I can’t see anyone on here who doubts that LS is guilty of all charges. IMO.
We may be speculating on WHEN she killed him due to the neighbor’s surveillance footage being confusing right now.

But we all realize that the AA is only 32 pages out of 1000+ and this is not the entirety of the State’s case that will be brought to trial.
JMO

 

[Aloe]

LS felt they were hiding something by telling her nothing was wrong by them asking for GS toothbrush. They didn’t lie to her.

The FBI has a plan in place for missing persons cases. They follow it by the book, step by step. Especially a missing child. They request something with the missing persons DNA or a family members DNA early in the case. Whether they suspect runaway, kidnapping or foul play, they will have DNA waiting to match to any evidence found.

Her consciousness of guilt made her think something wasn’t right with their request. An innocent parent would be more than happy to help LE .

LE didn’t have a lot of evidence pointing towards her in the first 24 hours, but they definitely had data and statistics that leads to scrutinizing the last adult to see a missing child.
I see no fault in the amount of time local LE and FBI took to build their case.
MOO

Thanks. Her quote about the "hiding something" was a reference to her text to Al and her, as you said, consciousness of guilt. I have no question about that and don't think they lied to her either. They needed DNA from Gannon, it was a routine request to obtain that DNA.

 

[MassGuy]

I can’t see anyone on here who doubts that LS is guilty of all charges. IMO.
We may be speculating on WHEN she killed him due to the neighbor’s surveillance footage being confusing right now.

But we all realize that the AA is only 32 pages out of 1000+ and this is not the entirety of the State’s case that will be brought to trial.
JMO

I could convict her based on that affidavit alone. Hell, I could convict her based on just a few pages.

This is one of the few cases I’ve followed on here where everyone atleast agrees that the suspect did it.

Many people have slightly different theories regarding how this all went down, and if she had help or not, but her guilt is not in question.

Nor is the result.

 

[Aloe]

I can’t see anyone on here who doubts that LS is guilty of all charges. IMO.
We may be speculating on WHEN she killed him due to the neighbor’s surveillance footage being confusing right now.

But we all realize that the AA is only 32 pages out of 1000+ and this is not the entirety of the State’s case that will be brought to trial.
JMO

The case being made so far in this AA, submitted before the additional evidence of the body, is that LS murdered Gannon in his house in his bedroom sometime on or around 1/27. Also that the video surveillance provided by the neighbor is unclear and inconclusive.
I have read posts on WS in which the poster believes, due to said video, that Gannon left the house alive on the morning of 10/27 and did not return; this is where there is doubt. If she killed him within the 4 hour trip away from the house then she couldn't have killed him in the house.

I am just curious about what posters think a jury would believe if the case were presented as it has been in the AA. vs the doubt created by the neighbors surveillance video.

That is all I was asking. I was not asking if "anyone on here doubts that LS is guilty of all charges" as you stated in your interpretation.

 

[ZoriahNZ]

Just a quick reminder that there is no back gate. There is no exit from the back or side of the property.

The only exits from the property are: the front door, the double garage door, the 'side gate'. All of which face the front, towards Mandan Drive.

There is a back sliding door, which opens into the backyard. The backyard is fully enclosed except for the 'side gate' which exits onto Mandan Ave.

You can see the gate to the left of the garage in the attached pic.

 

[MassGuy]

The case being made so far in this AA, submitted before the additional evidence of the body, is that LS murdered Gannon in his house in his bedroom sometime on or around 1/27. Also that the video surveillance provided by the neighbor is unclear and inconclusive.
I have read posts on WS in which the poster believes, due to said video, that Gannon left the house alive on the morning of 10/27 and did not return; this is where there is doubt. If she killed him within the 4 hour trip away from the house then she couldn't have killed him in the house.

I am just curious about what posters think a jury would believe if the case were presented as it has been in the AA. vs the doubt created by the neighbors surveillance video.

That is all I was asking. I was not asking if "anyone on here doubts that LS is guilty of all charges" as you stated in your interpretation.

Doubt as to where the murder occurred, doesn’t change the game. A juror could doubt that she killed him in his room, and it’s not like that creates reasonable doubt as to her guilt.

This is almost certainly going to be a moot point come trial, as the prosecution will have more test results, to include the autopsy and blood splatter analysis.

I don’t anticipate the murder scene changing, but we’ll see.

 

[BeckyF]

The case being made so far in this AA, submitted before the additional evidence of the body, is that LS murdered Gannon in his house in his bedroom sometime on or around 1/27. Also that the video surveillance provided by the neighbor is unclear and inconclusive.
I have read posts on WS in which the poster believes, due to said video, that Gannon left the house alive on the morning of 10/27 and did not return; this is where there is doubt. If she killed him within the 4 hour trip away from the house then she couldn't have killed him in the house.

I am just curious about what posters think a jury would believe if the case were presented as it has been in the AA. vs the doubt created by the neighbors surveillance video.

That is all I was asking. I was not asking if "anyone on here doubts that LS is guilty of all charges" as you stated in your interpretation.

I’ve been wondering the same thing. Like they say, all it takes is one juror to disagree. But with all of the other evidence they have I believe an intelligent jury will conclude she is guilty. A defense attorney will try to poke holes in the timeline and dispute what the video shows but there is a ton of other evidence.

 

[Jessthinkin]

I'm all for LE using tried-and-true techniques to get suspects spilling their guts or making mistakes and don't feel they owe the public a full reveal of what they know.

It's long been established with LE that you don't let a suspect know everything you know until it's useful or required by the court.

IIRC once one is named a suspect the clock starts ticking. Seems smart to hold off on that.

And she had stopped talking (on the record, at least) and they needed her to keep talking. And posting. Etc...

 

[Cindizzi]

The case being made so far in this AA, submitted before the additional evidence of the body, is that LS murdered Gannon in his house in his bedroom sometime on or around 1/27. Also that the video surveillance provided by the neighbor is unclear and inconclusive.
I have read posts on WS in which the poster believes, due to said video, that Gannon left the house alive on the morning of 10/27 and did not return; this is where there is doubt. If she killed him within the 4 hour trip away from the house then she couldn't have killed him in the house.

I am just curious about what posters think a jury would believe if the case were presented as it has been in the AA. vs the doubt created by the neighbors surveillance video.

That is all I was asking. I was not asking if "anyone on here doubts that LS is guilty of all charges" as you stated in your interpretation.

I did misinterpret when I read the line about reasonable doubt and I apologize for that. Even if a jury couldn’t all agree on G being seen returning to the house, I can’t see them not agreeing that she killed him. She was the only one who could have. I guess you are asking if we were on a jury right now with only this AA , what would happen?

For me, the blood evidence in the house, garage and the Tiguan coupled with her known movements plus the fact that she had so many different stories to LE = Guilty of all charges beyond a reasonable doubt.
MOO
JMO

 

[Jessthinkin]

I think it was wrong to lie for as long as they did, yes. After reading the AA it is pretty clear that they had it all figured out by the first week of February.

LE having it "figured out" (if they did) and having evidence sufficient to support an arrest and hopefully a conviction is quite another thing...

 

[BeckyF]

By “ran” in my post I meant she could have just left without his body, no clues where to start looking, no closure for the family.

Yes I agree with you if it were like the old days & not all this modern technology perhaps we could have had her & his body. But maybe not the best justice for G.

Remember without technology LE can’t work as fast as they can now. With technology the hands on tailing, stakeouts, and what have ya isn’t the mode of usefulness like it was. I see what ya mean too.

Wow - can you imagine how many unsolved homicides would have been solved if there were tracking devices such as we have now? I can think of so many cold cases that wouldn’t have gone cold had the technology been around then. But I’m sure LE worked very hard to solve them. It just took longer.

 

[Aloe]

Doubt as to where the murder occurred, doesn’t change the game. A juror could doubt that she killed him in his room, and it’s not like that creates reasonable doubt as to her guilt.

This is almost certainly going to be a moot point come trial, as the prosecution will have more test results, to include the autopsy and blood splatter analysis.

I don’t anticipate the murder scene changing, but we’ll see.

I hope you're right.

I wish she would just confess. I hate the thought of Gannon's parents having yet to endure what is to come with the trial.

 

[Aloe]

Wow - can you imagine how many unsolved homicides would have been solved if there were tracking devices such as we have now? I can think of so many cold cases that wouldn’t have gone cold had the technology been around then. But I’m sure LE worked very hard to solve them. It just took longer.

Agree. 100%.

 

[Aloe]

I did misinterpret when I read the line about reasonable doubt and I apologize for that. Even if a jury couldn’t all agree on G being seen returning to the house, I can’t see them not agreeing that she killed him. She was the only one who could have. I guess you are asking if we were on a jury right now with only this AA , what would happen?

For me, the blood evidence in the house, garage and the Tiguan coupled with her known movements plus the fact that she had so many different stories to LE = Guilty of all charges beyond a reasonable doubt.
MOO
JMO

Yep, I agree, no doubt in my mind.

I am just glad that I was able to make myself understood...hard for me to articulate sometimes (so please, no apologies). I'm learning much from all of you here and very grateful.

 

[k-mac]

Also I’m sure they came down on her hard for refusing to disclose the location of the Tig. I’m not sure how they were communicating with her at that point but I’m sure she knew either directly or thru Al that they wanted that vehicle immediately.

I'm shocked and in quite disbelief that LE missed the vw tig at the airport short term parking.
they know via AS that TS picked AS up at the airport in a strange car....it was a place she had frequented.
her picking AS up in a hire car wouldn't that lead them straight to checking the car park for how she got here in the first place???
seriously ...im not even gunna bring up the educated assumption by most here that gannon was in the trunk of the black tig in the garage more than likely when LE arrived for the 'runaway' narrative.
Lucky TS is dimwitted and handed the entire case to them on a silver platter because if she had of had some smarts........I just don't know

they even let her get to the other side of the country with him under their noses. with the resources thrown at this case.....its just not good enough

lucky the DA was onboard early in the piece is all I can see positive here.

moo