Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #43

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Something else I keep wondering about, is one of the searches regarding "Al picking family over her"....Al's mother had been visiting the week prior up until January 25th when apparently she and Al left for the Airport. This being Saturday, I can't help but wonder if Letecia was jealous of Al's mother as well..Did it anger her that maybe he left for the airport a little earlier that he may have if Mom wasn't flying out also???? Did something happen (in LS mind) that put her in the underdog position or was she just so insecure that she couldn't deal with anyone having her now ex-husbands attention but herself when he was in town? The timing of the search coupled with Al's mother being in town sticks out like a soar thumb to me. JMO
 
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Something else I keep wondering about, is one of the searches regarding "Al picking family over her"....Al's mother had been visiting the week prior up until January 25th when apparently she and Al left for the Airport. This being Saturday, I can't help but wonder if Letecia was jealous of Al's mother as well..Did it anger her that maybe he left for the airport a little earlier that he may have if Mom wasn't flying out also???? Did something happen (in LS mind) that put her in the underdog position or was she just so insecure that she couldn't deal with anyone having her now ex-husbands attention but herself when he was in town? The timing of the search coupled with Al's mother being in town sticks out like a soar thumb to me. JMO

JMO
It sounds to me that she ended up hating and getting into disagreements with practically everyone that was from AS side.

If this came from her........
"Al picking family over her"

That sounds to me that she was into arguments with his Mom and he of course would take his Mom's side because TS was probably in the wrong in whatever disagreement they may have been having.

She obviously had jealousy and control issues where she wanted AS all to herself. Anything or anybody from his side she would treat it as a threat to her being able to control AS and control how she wanted things to be "her way".
 
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I wonder by chance if there is an outside spicket by the gate?

Good thinking. I bet there is a hose back there.

jmo
Yes, good thinking. I wish we had a picture of the outside of the house and especially of the gate and how far it is from the garage.

I guess an outside hose would be located near the kitchen or a bathroom, or the utility room? What room is near the back door?

Also, I wonder if there is a sink in the garage and she used that for some of the cleanup?

I think the water spicket is on the exterior wall same as the sliding door (below cable dish).

The area behind the gate looks to be a short narrow walkway where the AC units are housed (possibly other water source but doubt it). House has sprinkler system.

I don't recall any blood mentioned outside of the house but I think she initially threw all bloody evidence out back.

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I’ve been wondering the same thing. Like they say, all it takes is one juror to disagree. But with all of the other evidence they have I believe an intelligent jury will conclude she is guilty. A defense attorney will try to poke holes in the timeline and dispute what the video shows but there is a ton of other evidence.
I don’t disagree. I would have absolutely no problem convicting her. IMO her numerous lies show such consciousness of guilt that I feel a jury, when adding her lies to all the hard evidence, will have to convict her. I think most everyone here feels the same. But we’re in a unique position here. Most of us have been through numerous cases from start to finish. A lot of us have specialized backgrounds that allow a better understanding of the way LE investigates and collects evidence and how that evidence is then interpreted and presented to a jury.

Then I think about Casey Anthony, a prolific liar. That jury did not convict. I do believe there is much more and better evidence in this case but there is just no telling what a jury will decide when they finally meet after all the evidence is in. Jeff Ashton thought he had an intelligent jury. Despite well-prepared jury questionnaires and voir dire, it’s pretty much a crap shoot.

I want LE and the DA take their time and investigate every little avenue to neutralize the efforts of the defense. I don’t care how many times they lie to or mislead the suspect or the public. I hope they interviewed every Edguardo, who works in construction, in a 50 mile radius. We all want a conviction and that takes time and diligence. I have no doubt these investigators and DA are doing just that.
 
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Something else I keep wondering about, is one of the searches regarding "Al picking family over her"....Al's mother had been visiting the week prior up until January 25th when apparently she and Al left for the Airport. This being Saturday, I can't help but wonder if Letecia was jealous of Al's mother as well..Did it anger her that maybe he left for the airport a little earlier that he may have if Mom wasn't flying out also???? Did something happen (in LS mind) that put her in the underdog position or was she just so insecure that she couldn't deal with anyone having her now ex-husbands attention but herself when he was in town? The timing of the search coupled with Al's mother being in town sticks out like a soar thumb to me. JMO
I totally think something like this happened, that she felt left out or possibly judged during the recent MIL visit. Then, the two of them leave and TS is left home to care for the stepkids, one of whom had a stomach problem. She probably felt like Cinderella.

jmo
 
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JUST IN: #LeteciaStauch -- accused of 1st-degree murder in slaying of 11yo #GannonStauch -- ordered to appear for a two-day preliminary hearing to be held June 5 and June 8, docket shows. Stauch's 4/14 court appearance was vacated earlier due to #coronavirus fears.
@csgazette

https://twitter.com/lancebenzel/status/1248663632226873344?s=21
 
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I'm shocked and in quite disbelief that LE missed the vw tig at the airport short term parking.
they know via AS that TS picked AS up at the airport in a strange car....it was a place she had frequented.
her picking AS up in a hire car wouldn't that lead them straight to checking the car park for how she got here in the first place???
seriously ...im not even gunna bring up the educated assumption by most here that gannon was in the trunk of the black tig in the garage more than likely when LE arrived for the 'runaway' narrative.
Lucky TS is dimwitted and handed the entire case to them on a silver platter because if she had of had some smarts........I just don't know :confused::confused::confused:

they even let her get to the other side of the country with him under their noses. with the resources thrown at this case.....its just not good enough:oops::oops:

lucky the DA was onboard early in the piece is all I can see positive here.

moo
It’s possible there wasn’t enough evidence at that point to justify a search warrant for the Tiguan.
 
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I don’t disagree. I would have absolutely no problem convicting her. IMO her numerous lies show such consciousness of guilt that I feel a jury, when adding her lies to all the hard evidence, will have to convict her. I think most everyone here feels the same. But we’re in a unique position here. Most of us have been through numerous cases from start to finish. A lot of us have specialized backgrounds that allow a better understanding of the way LE investigates and collects evidence and how that evidence is then interpreted and presented to a jury.

Then I think about Casey Anthony, a prolific liar. That jury did not convict. I do believe there is much more and better evidence in this case but there is just no telling what a jury will decide when they finally meet after all the evidence is in. Jeff Ashton thought he had an intelligent jury. Despite well-prepared jury questionnaires and voir dire, it’s pretty much a crap shoot.

I want LE and the DA take their time and investigate every little avenue to neutralize the efforts of the defense. I don’t care how many times they lie to or mislead the suspect or the public. I hope they interviewed every Edguardo, who works in construction, in a 50 mile radius. We all want a conviction and that takes time and diligence. I have no doubt these investigators and DA are doing just that.
Agree 100%.
 
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Hi MassGuy is there a stronger case against LS based on “Where, When or How”? Do they need all 3 to convict or just one?

Curious here & you sound like a smart cookie.
This is what the prosecution has to prove:

Murder in the First Degree (After Deliberation) The Elements of the Charge

The elements of the crime of murder in the first degree are:

That the defendant, in the State of Colorado, at or about the date and place charged, after deliberation, and with intent to cause the death of a person other than himself, caused the death of __________________.
 
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The EPCSO has laid the foundation for a case that LS murdered Gannon in his bedroom on the afternoon of 1/27, (if this has not changed due to now having the body as evidence).
There are some on WS that have posted what amounts to be beyond reasonable doubt.

What do you think a jury will do as such?

The jury isn't going to be reading offbeat theories on Websleuths. The defense attorneys have to choose a particular path for their client, they cannot tell the jury that Gannon ran away, that LS was raped and the rapist kidnapped Gannon, that there were 2 rapists, one of which lay down in the street, etc In fact, they cannot give evidence that someone else did this crime unless the judge says they can. I believe CO makes it so that the defendant must, at the preliminary hearing, introduce any facts to persuade the judge that they've got the wrong person.

That's not going to happen. This case will not be tried on Websleuths. And we on Websleuths are not permitted to discuss all of the (major) evidence in this case. The only problem is that there's so much evidence.

But I'm curious. Since a defense team cannot just throw spaghetti at the prosecution and hope it sticks - what defense do you think would convince even one juror? Truly curious.

Not a single theory posted here has convinced me (or most people) of "reasonable doubt." The definition of "reasonable" is not up to us, either. Judges give instructions regarding what it means. Then, juries come to group terms with what it means.

So while you may have found reasonable doubt somewhere in this case (prior to ever hearing the evidence, simply going on WS take on the evidence), a jury will be very very different.

First of all, they will all be from that county, where the crime occurred. They will be told to use a "reasonable person standard" based on what people in that area consider reasonable.

Is there any doubt that Gannon is dead? No. Is there any doubt that he was murdered? No. Is there any doubt that Letecia H. Stauch organized a caravan and drove to Florida? No. Is there any doubt that his body was found in a suitcase in Florida? No. Is there any doubt the suitcase came from the Stauch home? No. Is there any doubt that there was Gannon's blood on Letecia H. Stauch's trainer? No. Is there any doubt that there was blood in her Tiguan? No. Is there any doubt that she twice went to the place where a bloody particle board, used to transport Gannon's body and containing his blood, was found? No.

What else do you think a jury would need? What reasonable person would doubt that LS did this? Even without coming up with an alternate theory of who else could have done this, could a reasonable person doubt it was Letecia H. Stauch?

No.

And that's without the many phone calls, lies, texts, procurement of cleaning supplies, attempts to clean Gannon's room, fake polygraph test and much else.

She's dead to rights.
 
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It’s possible there wasn’t enough evidence at that point to justify a search warrant for the Tiguan.

The affidavit said both LE and AS were looking for the Tiguan though.

ETA Item 59 on page 8
 
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Something else I keep wondering about, is one of the searches regarding "Al picking family over her"....Al's mother had been visiting the week prior up until January 25th when apparently she and Al left for the Airport. This being Saturday, I can't help but wonder if Letecia was jealous of Al's mother as well..Did it anger her that maybe he left for the airport a little earlier that he may have if Mom wasn't flying out also???? Did something happen (in LS mind) that put her in the underdog position or was she just so insecure that she couldn't deal with anyone having her now ex-husbands attention but herself when he was in town? The timing of the search coupled with Al's mother being in town sticks out like a soar thumb to me. JMO
@Liltxtrndo , you got it! There is no dispute that TS displays attention-seeing behavior. If it is part of a personality disorder, then AS paying ANY attention anyone but her (and HH by extension) will trigger her rage. And it is not uncommon for such women to regard their MIL as a threat.

I imagine AS's mom was beaming and doting on her son and grandchildren (she doesn't get to see them often), and not so much TS and HH. AS's mother meant enough to him that she was standing by his side during that PC.

Also, it appears to me that TS was triangulating AS's relationship with Gannon. So, any attention AS paid to his children (in her mind) was attention taken away from her (and HH by extension). MOO
 
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No, they need to have good evidence backing up any charges. Those weapon-specific sentence enhancer charges were added soon after his body was found, almost certainly based on injuries found at autopsy.
:(:mad::(:mad::(:mad: G-man you are the bravest young man ever!!! I hope you kicked & punched her real good!! I hope you were able to say things to her that will haunt her for the rest of her days!!

If my outburst isn’t allowed I apologize. It won’t happen again. This is about true Justice for G not a grandma’s rant for a precious child.
 
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Here for Gannon.

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To me, the emphasis is on the going back and forth. Gannon didn't go back and forth. She did.

But, that's not a major point in all this.

I am interested in figuring out why she said the things she said (Quincy Brown laid down in front of her car? I'd love to know where she came up with that insane idea. Did she once lay down in front of someone's car?!) Her stories both revolt me and intrigue me (no worries - I have zero respect for liars).

Mainly, though, I just want evidence compiled that proves her guilt. My interest in her stories is secondary to that.

jmo
I immediately went to Diana Downs
 
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The jury isn't going to be reading offbeat theories on Websleuths. The defense attorneys have to choose a particular path for their client, they cannot tell the jury that Gannon ran away, that LS was raped and the rapist kidnapped Gannon, that there were 2 rapists, one of which lay down in the street, etc In fact, they cannot give evidence that someone else did this crime unless the judge says they can. I believe CO makes it so that the defendant must, at the preliminary hearing, introduce any facts to persuade the judge that they've got the wrong person.

That's not going to happen. This case will not be tried on Websleuths. And we on Websleuths are not permitted to discuss all of the (major) evidence in this case. The only problem is that there's so much evidence.

But I'm curious. Since a defense team cannot just throw spaghetti at the prosecution and hope it sticks - what defense do you think would convince even one juror? Truly curious.

Not a single theory posted here has convinced me (or most people) of "reasonable doubt." The definition of "reasonable" is not up to us, either. Judges give instructions regarding what it means. Then, juries come to group terms with what it means.

So while you may have found reasonable doubt somewhere in this case (prior to ever hearing the evidence, simply going on WS take on the evidence), a jury will be very very different.

First of all, they will all be from that county, where the crime occurred. They will be told to use a "reasonable person standard" based on what people in that area consider reasonable.

Is there any doubt that Gannon is dead? No. Is there any doubt that he was murdered? No. Is there any doubt that Letecia H. Stauch organized a caravan and drove to Florida? No. Is there any doubt that his body was found in a suitcase in Florida? No. Is there any doubt the suitcase came from the Stauch home? No. Is there any doubt that there was Gannon's blood on Letecia H. Stauch's trainer? No. Is there any doubt that there was blood in her Tiguan? No. Is there any doubt that she twice went to the place where a bloody particle board, used to transport Gannon's body and containing his blood, was found? No.

What else do you think a jury would need? What reasonable person would doubt that LS did this? Even without coming up with an alternate theory of who else could have done this, could a reasonable person doubt it was Letecia H. Stauch?

No.

And that's without the many phone calls, lies, texts, procurement of cleaning supplies, attempts to clean Gannon's room, fake polygraph test and much else.

She's dead to rights.
@10ofRods ... during the cousin IT interview, TS accentuated on HH being a chi-uld while at the same time professing that she is in the military defending our country.

Could a reasonable doubt be raised if the finger is pointed at HH as the actual killer, and TS was covering it up??

There is not enough evidence to convict HH, but maybe enough to raise a doubt which is all TS needs to walk out of that jail.

So, I beg of anyone to please put these fears of mine to rest!
 
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I think the water spicket is on the exterior wall same as the sliding door (below cable dish).

The area behind the gate looks to be a short narrow walkway where the AC units are housed (possibly other water source but doubt it). House has sprinkler system.

I don't recall any blood mentioned outside of the house but I think she initially threw all bloody evidence out back.

ETA: 6627 Mandan Dr, Colorado Springs, CO 80925 - realtor.com®
You’re awesome TY! :)
 
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@10ofRods ... during the cousin IT interview, TS accentuated on HH being a chi-uld while at the same time professing that she is in the military defending our country.

Could a reasonable doubt be raised if the finger is pointed at HH as the actual killer, and TS was covering it up??

There is not enough evidence to convict HH, but maybe enough to raise a doubt which is all TS needs to walk out of that jail.

So, I beg of anyone to please put these fears of mine to rest!
Nope, it still doesn’t work. HH has an alibi, and TS and Gannon were alone.

There is no way to insert someone else, while at the same time, removing TS from the equation.
 
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