Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #43

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[Error505]

Hello, I am a first-time poster. I joined Web Sleuths to follow Gannon's case and read the first 16 threads verbatim, thinking I might eventually catch up. When LS was arrested and Gannon's body was found, I knew that was a futile effort.

I read the arrest affidavit, and what astounded me, if true, is that LS drove to the airport to pick up AS on Jan. 28 with possibly Gannon's body in the trunk of her Tiguan. Then she left the Tiguan in the short-term parking lot and rented a car to drive AS home. During the ride home with AS, how could she act worried, knowing Gannon was in the Tiguan's trunk back at the airport? How could she calmly drop AS off at home, make excuses, and then retrieve her Tiguan to dispose of Gannon's body in southern Douglas County that same day in the evening?

If LE is correct and Gannon was murdered after 2:15 p.m. Jan. 27, I conclude that the four-hour shopping trip was actually a cover for LS to scout potential burial spots for Gannon. How horrible to think LS took Gannon along for this purpose! He had no idea during that car ride that he would be murdered in just a few hours.

There were other incredible facts revealed in the affidavit, like the false rape allegations and the attempt to get a fake polygraph test. I would have loved to see LS's face when she found out the polygraph company refused to email the fake report because of the nature of her desired questions and answers.

Those are just a few of my thoughts after reading the arrest affidavit. LE still has a long way to go, getting ready to prosecute LS. The biggest thing LE has to prove is exactly how LS removed Gannon's body from Douglas County and took it to Florida. I'm sure you all have already discussed various ways she could have done this.

Now, I've got more reading to do.

Hello, Panda. I’m new too. I don’t post often as I don’t have a lot to add, this is a smart group on this Forum, all looking for answers regarding justice for Gannon. #Here4Gannon

 

[Warwick7]

LS is the one who misled the public, LE, Gannon’s mother and father, her own daughter and relatives, neighbors and residents of CoS in my opinion.
My thoughts:
MOO LE owes the public nothing in the way of information that would compromise their ongoing investigation as long as the general public is not endangered by information not shared. I feel pretty certain when LE started trying to piece together the lies coming from LS, they had an educated guess that G was no longer alive. The lies told by LS wasted valuable time and resources (human and resource wise). There’s a ton of info in the AA but only what is needed to prompt an arrest.

LE was looking for the Tiguan as early as Tuesday evening, 24 hours after G “ran away”. They couldn’t locate the car and TS lies about where it was parked. There had to have been a few who were suspicious then.

By noon Wednesday, within 36 hours or so of G’s disappearance, TS puts on a real show during her interview with LE.

And again, this is just my own opinion.
Here4Gannon Happy Easter

Bam!!!!

 

[Warwick7]

MOO this is another way to look at it, calling a person a suspect in the media before police have at least enough evidence to convince a judge to sign an arrest warrrant seems like the greater infridgement on civil rights.

The fact this case started as a runaway --missing, bringing in S&A resources evolving to probable family murder with alibis of being kidnapped and raped means hundreds of search warrants for cameras and devices and thousands of hours of review and correlation of the data
When LS gave them a kidnap rape story, a story of a cut foot and nosebleeds to explain blood, the alibis needed to be confirmed or debunked with more review and for instance warrants for employment records looking for the existence of "Eguardo."
Add the already massive physical ongoing search with half a dozen agencies who were looking for body either dead from exposure or hidden by a killer.
IMHO 2/15 marks the first evidence AFAIK (board and sock) that squarely and unequivically pointed to LS, as the location correlated with the Tiguan and rental car, visits on two known occasions.

That week also marks the redoubling of effort by the forensic team at the Stauch house.
She was arrested 17 days later.
Probably 10 days after DNA confirmation from the Perry Park Rd. evidence.
Two and half weeks seems like barely enough time to accurately document assemble and present the evidence collected during the investigation to the court.

I dont think tthe EPSO was didsdainful, MOO to me it is more that they feared making mistakes with so many facets to the case.

MOO Without this huge effort this could have happened:
A boy ran away and was never heard from again. Some suspected the stepmom, but she moved away and the case went cold.

Bam! Bam!

 

[Warwick7]

The interview with the TV reporter was bizarre in the moment (no pleading with public was just one of the blaring red flags) but it is all the more bizarre now that we know in the days before that interview:
* she murdered a child
* hid the child
* washed the car which transported the murdered child
* kept the whereabouts of her car from her husband and LE
* said Gannon went to a friend's house
* said she was raped by Eguardo
* said she and Gannon both were raped by Eguardo
* said rapist Eguardo demanded a suitcase and cardboard box
* said Eguardo threw Gannon across the room
* said she hit her head once, possibly twice, during Eguardo assault
(the Quincy Brown rape story wasn't told until later)
* faked chest pain and shortness of breath during LE interview
* sneaked out of the hospital without telling LE

Despite those stories, during the interview, she:
* asked why are people saying Gannon is dead
* said people are complaining she didn't help search, but there was a reason for what she was doing
* said people will apologize to her when Gannon comes home
* asked that her daughter vouch that Gannon was alive on Sunday night
* said LE mistreated her during interview at police station

After the interview, she drove to the dump site, retrieved the body of a child she murdered, and drove with the body to Florida, imo.

BIZARRE.

jmo

Excellent post!!!

 

[Coloradokid]

The less EPSO shared, the more our suspect talked about things she should have no knowledge of.

They did talk when they needed to-
like to assure us here in the Springs that they did not believe there was a threat to the community after Leticia asked neighbors to try to remember and suspicious cars in the neighborhood. And that was it. Smart.

It was pretty easy to read between the lines. They weren’t using civilian volunteers for searches. It seemed clear pretty early on that they knew what was up, and they were building their case.

Sadly, the most important evidence turned up in that suitcase in Florida. Should be the largest piece of the puzzle, so we are going on old info at this point. We don’t know very much about what they have learned since the AA. I’m soooo glad. Because neither does she.

 

[Warwick7]

The less EPSO shared, the more our suspect talked about things she should have no knowledge of.

They did talk when they needed to-
like to assure us here in the Springs that they did not believe there was a threat to the community after Leticia asked neighbors to try to remember and suspicious cars in the neighborhood. And that was it. Smart.

It was pretty easy to read between the lines. They weren’t using civilian volunteers for searches. It seemed clear pretty early on that they knew what was up, and they were building their case.

Sadly, the most important evidence turned up in that suitcase in Florida. Should be the largest piece of the puzzle, so we are going on old info at this point. We don’t know very much about what they have learned since the AA. I’m soooo glad. Because neither does she.

Your post is really profound.

The begining is point blank.....

"The less EPSO shared, the more our suspect talked."

 

[DTPeke]

Wait, I'm confused. Are you suggesting multiple people set off the motion events? In other words, TS and Gannon were coexisting on multiple floors during the 25 minute period when they returned home?

I interpreted the AA to mean he was killed within minutes of returning home (motion downstairs), and TS running up and down several times setting the motion sensors off in both areas while she scrambled to clean and contain.

If I understand you correctly, than you are in the camp that Gannon did not return home from the 4 hr trip, or you believe he was killed later in the afternoon, perhaps after Laina came home and was sent outside?

I think he returned home with LS, but the camera did not capture him.

Yes, my belief is they co-existed within that time before he was murdered.

I think ADT logged activity from GS and LS which will show them on different floors proving he made it home.

Possibly a door opening plus motion activity in the basement or two motion events.

Many of the door and motion events are LS running around cleaning up but not all of them.

I think he was sent to his room and murdered in his bed likely before little LS arrived home.

The blood outline of his head and torso makes me believe he was unable to move, he was dead. The soaking of the blood through mattress to floor, the light socket. The blood spatters. The missing bedding.

Nothing at this point will surprise. I am open to all theories. Just my interpretation from reading the AA.

 

[AbigailHobbs]

Does anyone know why some of the charges are against a child under 12 and some aren't? I haven't seen much discussion on that but I may have missed it. I have seen articles mention it also, but I haven't seen an official document or anything.

 

[10ofRods]

Dbm duplicate


I am not sure how you feel mislead. Investigations are confidential.
EPSO detectives having suspicions, like everyone had of LS in early days was based on LS's behavior and their professional experience with other parents in the same situation.
By 1/30, she was looking pretty crazy and there was evidence starting to be processed from the Tiguan.
EPSO had blood, they had a crazy alibi, posibly true explanations for blood, a recently washed car and a highly public neighbor video that was inconclusive whether Gannon returned or not.
Seems like no comment is their best response.

I am seeing some unexplained slowness getting the car data that ultimately led to Perry Park Rd.

1/27 reported runaway
1/28 things not adding up
1/28 Tiguan trip to Perry Park Rd.
1/29 LS runs away from EPSO interview via hospital visit.
1/29 Tiguan impounded.
1/31 Rental trip to Perry Park Rd.
2/2 RD shows AS his video and reports it
2/4 EPSO presser. PIO basically says the public scrutiny can negatively impact the case and no comment.
2/12 search moves to Perry Park
2/15 they find evidence - board and sock - further process the home.
3/2 arrest.

Really good catch.

 

[dawnraks]

I think he returned home with LS, but the camera did not capture him.

Yes, my belief is they co-existed within that time before he was murdered.

I think ADT logged activity from GS and LS which will show them on different floors proving he made it home.

Possibly a door opening plus motion activity in the basement or two motion events.

Many of the door and motion events are LS running around cleaning up but not all of them.

I think he was sent to his room and murdered in his bed likely before little LS arrived home.

The blood outline of his head and torso makes me believe he was unable to move, he was dead. The soaking of the blood through mattress to floor, the light socket. The blood spatters. The missing bedding.

Nothing at this point will surprise. I am open to all theories. Just my interpretation from reading the AA.

Correct, the ADT according to the AA detected movement on both floors at the same time after arriving home. The AA states from the time they left in the morning until arriving home, no movement was detected in the house meaning LE does not believe anyone to be in the house until Gannon and LS returned.

 

[tmar]

I don’t know what happened that night or day but I don’t believe there was a fire that burned any large part of carpet by Gannon . I believe if there was carpet missing or destroyed it was her attempting yet again to cover up what she did. I believe those internet searches were intentional and she knew or hoped Al would see at them.

she was without a doubt an emotional abuser to Gannon . I believe what mostly likely occurred in that house started out as common or usual violence or abuse on Gannon to take out her frustration even when it had zero to do with Gannon . He just happened to be an easy target for her. Then she went too far and from that point she went in to over drive on how to cover it up even if it meant killing him. She believed people would believe her .

I’ve lived in a house like that and sadly you just want (no matter how old you get) for the abuser to love you, to like you, you want to make them happy even though they terrify you. I was Gannons age and terrible mental and unimaginable physical violence on a child so small occurred daily. I never told anyone except my mom and even then I struggled to explain and she stayed and it just got worse . To this day that abuser thinks that even as a child at starting at the age of 7 and 8 I was “a bad kid” and whatever he did to me I deserved .

I was warned not to tell anyone . I was told no one would believe me. I was told they’d pick up and dial CPS for me and take me to jail instead. I was told if I ran away they’d hunt me and kill me (I believe they would’ve ) . I also can very very easily see how one of those times he could’ve went too far (literally nothing had to set him off) . He could’ve done one of his usual “fun” games of picking me up by my throat , strangling me, holding me in the air , throwing me into a wall and at that point I’m down on the ground again. He’d kick , pull hair. My point is there could’ve been injuries that he or they couldn’t explain away. His job was LE. At that point it’s very easy to know what he would’ve done. He would’ve finished it. Packed me away and got hid of me and told everyone I ran away.

I think there’s a high possibility bc of his job and the town we live in that would've never been questioned at all. Bc he’s great at his job. Upstanding citizen. Great all around guy. In his mind then and now it would’ve been justified . He believes the stories he tells even when others tell him he’s wrong .

I’m really sorry. I need to have distance from this case right now. I feel tremendously guilty in doing that.

I know many people won’t understand this but I always try to remember we are all Gods children and it’s not only us who feels pain The Lord does as well bc we are all his children . Being a parent to two children I know I’d do anything for .I’m glad it’s not my job to judge to decide someone’s fate . Forgiving is a lot easier than forgetting. I am for “justice” but even when it comes it’s so hollow bc it doesn’t fix it, it doesn’t bring anyone back, it doesn’t undo the terrible unthinkable crimes. I do hope and pray she gets life in prison but she’s always going to be the type to not take accountability, to make herself the victim even when her victim was a defenseless child. Everyone involved in this needs prayer.

@SwiftTiff
So sorry to hear about your childhood.
So pleased you are able to post here, and give us info on perhaps the type of experiences poor Gannon had to deal with.

As you state, Justice doesn't fix anything, but bringing such cases, via Media to the public, further unthinkable crimes may be prevented, as many people become aware.
Thank you, for your painful post, bringing back memories.

 

[AbigailHobbs]

Gannon's description text associated with that video reads, "I will upload a video every Friday." That was posted April 29, 2019.

It never happened. No more videos. I've wondered why Gannon posted only one video.

At the tail-end of the one video we hear a whisper voice say something that, IMO, sounds like they're warning of someone's coming and then they stop recording. I can not determine exactly what is said (sounds like, "Stop recording") but clearly they don't want to be caught recording and/or playing the video game or whatever.

Whatever happened at that point may have resulted in Gannon not (permitted to?) posting of any more videos.

It was innocent fun. Who would squelch that, and why?

As a parent myself, I dont allow my daughter to put things on youtube. Who knows? It could be as simple as they were supposed to be doing chores or getting dressed to leave and were goofing off. Or the time they had to play was up. I have to remind my daughter that at x time she was supposed to start doing chores or school work.

And as far as no more videos, they might have just gotten bored with it. The videos kids watch are always like "I post videos on friday so subscribe!"

 

[AbigailHobbs]

Got it.
Any idea how someome would explain leaving their car at school? I don't believe minus a field trip how that could even be explained.

Hiding it from Gannon? I think she used that as the excuse for the rental car right? "Gannon is mad at me so if he doesnt see the car, he won't think Im here". I can't imagine what poor AS went through with the batshit lies. Right out the gate, he gets picked up in a rental when his son is missing. Then her car is at a school. Then she gets raped. I can't imagine having to play nice with someone you know murdered your son and it appears he was doing that in order to get information. God that must be so hard though to not lose it!

 

[DTPeke]

Correct, the ADT according to the AA detected movement on both floors at the same time after arriving home. The AA states from the time they left in the morning until arriving home, no movement was detected in the house meaning LE does not believe anyone to be in the house until Gannon and LS returned.

Thanks....
Posters are questioning if the activity happened at the same time, simultaneously, that is where the questions lies.

I believe it does show Gannon home but is stated as,
(AA44: During that 25-minute period there is motion activity both upstairs and downstairs on the ADT records.)

I think they would state/imply another crime scene location if they were not certain but who knows.

ETA: did anyone ever review the leaked ADT records? I know they were out on social media but never looked at them.

 

[Inthedetails]

Hiding it from Gannon? I think she used that as the excuse for the rental car right? "Gannon is mad at me so if he doesnt see the car, he won't think Im here". I can't imagine what poor AS went through with the batshit lies. Right out the gate, he gets picked up in a rental when his son is missing. Then her car is at a school. Then she gets raped. I can't imagine having to play nice with someone you know murdered your son and it appears he was doing that in order to get information. God that must be so hard though to not lose it!

That is a good idea that she might have said her Tiguan was by the school so Gannon wouldn't see it at home - he would assume she wasn't home. The school makes sense, I suppose, since she worked there (though I thought she was fired before she even started? Her place of employment is fuzzy to me.).

Good thinking.

Of course, it was a lie. Her car was at the airport, but the lie about at being by the school at least matches her lie about not wanting to drive her own car when searching for Gannon.

jmo

 

[MassGuy]

Does anyone know why some of the charges are against a child under 12 and some aren't? I haven't seen much discussion on that but I may have missed it. I have seen articles mention it also, but I haven't seen an official document or anything.

The initial first degree murder charge was filed under the “position of trust rule,” on account of Gannon’s age. That charge doesn’t require the prosecution to prove the murder was premeditated.

The amended charges also include first degree murder, but would require the prosecution to prove the murder was premeditated.

We saw something similar in the Patrick Frazee case, where he was charged with first degree murder (premeditation), and first degree murder (commission of a felony).

The jury found him guilty under the premeditated murder scenario.

 

[Angels27]

Bloodstain Pattern Analysis: Principles

Bloodshed Events
A crime scene where bodily injury has occurred is likely to have some amount of bloodstain evidence present; however, the amount will vary depending on the circumstances of the crime. The type of injury inflicted and the amount of force used will determine the volume and pattern of bloodstains:

• Sharp force injuries (stabbing) - these injuries are caused by an object with a relatively small surface area, such as an ice pick or a knife. Less blood is deposited on the instrument, resulting in a smaller, more linear pattern of stains.
• Blunt force injuries (hitting or beating) - objects inflicting this type of injury are usually larger, such as a bat or hammer. If the object impacts liquid blood, the larger surface area will collect more blood, producing drops of varying sizes.
• Gunshot injuries - mist-like spatter caused by bullets entering and exiting the body.

 

[DTPeke]

Hiding it from Gannon? I think she used that as the excuse for the rental car right? "Gannon is mad at me so if he doesnt see the car, he won't think Im here". I can't imagine what poor AS went through with the batshit lies. Right out the gate, he gets picked up in a rental when his son is missing. Then her car is at a school. Then she gets raped. I can't imagine having to play nice with someone you know murdered your son and it appears he was doing that in order to get information. God that must be so hard though to not lose it!

I am surprised we are not sleuthing two murders. I would not be able to hold my composure.

Vile representation of the human race.

The day after the family has their heartfelt plea, LS is packing up and giving her crazy cousin IT.

Even Kyron Horman's stepmom attended the first press conference and smartly dumb Casey Anthony never really deviated from her original statements to LE until trial.

 

[10ofRods]

Does anyone know why some of the charges are against a child under 12 and some aren't? I haven't seen much discussion on that but I may have missed it. I have seen articles mention it also, but I haven't seen an official document or anything.

I think (someone correct me if I"m wrong) that there are two different First Degree Murder Charges. One is the standard "premeditated" murder, which seems quite appropriate.

The other is a murder by a person who is the carer of a child under 12 - a law that CO and other states have, to provide strong prosecution against any person who is supposed to care for a child, but harms them to death.

She will face those two First Degree Murder charges and can be convicted on one or both. The "under 12" one seems like a complete slam dunk.