Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #48

[SleuthBee]

Thank you!

Very valid points. However, I don't believe every allegation in her letter! It's my understanding that video conferences have replaced in-person meetings --for all defendants. LS isn't special.

I also recall that when her defense brought up issues of limited contact with LS when she was on lock-down after the escape communication (but before it was public), concessions were made and her attorneys are able to video conference with LS after normal hours. MOO

These were all reasons her lawyers brought up when they asked for the preliminary hearing to be delayed. So I think they’re doing what they need to to make sure she gets an adequate defense. I don’t think they want to see her get off on a technicality any more than anyone else does.

 

[casesensitive]

As I read her letter to the judge, I saw her employing her master manipulation on him. It has worked throughout her life, and she thought, why not give it a shot? She thought long and hard about writing this judge. This is what she came up with-- appeal to his perceived ethical value system, appeal to his authority for finding injustice, appeal to shared American patriotism, note her devotion to Christian beliefs, her reputation as a pillar in her community, her lack of drug use, her Phd degree and intelligence, and of course her innocence, and then figure out how to get his immediate attention. She really did cover everything she thought was important to him.

1--This needs your immediate attention. (My life is danger because someone is poisoning my food)

2--My nutritional health is in danger (I can't eat food except for Ensure)

3-The 8th amendment is being abused in my case (this amendment is for excessive bail or fines and resulting cruel punishment)

4-Covid 19 has prevented me from seeing my attorneys and reviewing massive files. (This could be legit)

5-I've been under scrutiny causing mental distress (she was caught hatching an escape plan)

6-I've been abused in transport, including ankle and wrist bleeding (she previously got out of her handcuffs and attacked an escort officer in the vehicle).

I don't doubt that her life behind bars is a nightmare for her. She is her own worst enemy and is suffering more due to the consequences of her escape plan...let alone the reality of what happens to you when you kill an innocent child.

 

[MsBetsy]

You came up with possibilities I hadn't considered. Thank you for that.



Thank you for the welcome! I didn't know that LS was in isolation. Your relative may be right about threats making LS afraid to eat. I had never heard of air trays; it is always good to learn something new.

The main reason I asked my question is because LS has been proven to be a constant liar. Good and practiced liars often interject grains of truths in their statements to make their more outlandish claims seem more believable. I thought that possibly attempted poisoning attempts might just be that grain of truth in that long, self-promoting letter.

I doubt anyone has tried to poison her. She thinks people are sending her threatening messages in her peanut butter because she has provided evidence that not only shows her innocence but will show who the real killer is through her PI. Because of this, she assumes there are runners who use people in trusted positions in the jail to send her threats in her food.

Of course none of that makes sense since she's the one sitting in jail while the real (imaginary) guilty person is free.

Although it's possible that inmates are putting something in her food I think most of her beliefs stem from delusions and paranoia. She believes her rights are being violated and she has been abused when she is the one who attacked an officer during transport and put her in the hospital.

I don't think her complaints will amount to anything. It's probably not the first time the judge has dealt with someone like this. I'm sure they will make sure she has plenty of time with her lawyers before she goes to trial. If they last that long.

IMO

 

[Seattle1]

One really has to feel for LS's public defenders. The fact that she wrote that insane letter to the Judge tells me that by now, her attorneys have contact with her on a need to know basis. They can't afford to get sidetracked with her manipulative behavior. LS is starved for attention and knew this would get her in the next news cycle. MOO

 

[heartandsoul]

Over 30,000 pages of discovery....
But they’ve got the wrong person....

I thought the same thing. She really thought that would help her argument!

"Sir, they have an excess amount of discovery in my case, but did I mention that I'm innocent? Did I say that yet? That I am innocent. But, Sir, I need more opportunities to go over the absolutely excessive amount of discovery, of which I am most definitely innocent. Remember, I am innocent."

You can't make this up

 

[Megnut]

My take is different. She has lost complete control. Of her narrative, of her former life, of facebook, of her normal drama.

What she CAN control is eating. So she creates drama -- people are pushing her nutter butter -- because she WANTS PANERA. Jail doesn't mind. She doesn't want PB&J, they're happy to provide manufacturer-sealed meal replacements. IMO NOT the outcome she was hoping for.

T can't handle being treated like one of many. IMO

Also IMO, she's LEGALLY CAPABLE of participating in her own defense, but she's JMO JMO JMO eating up all of her attorneys' time blathering about her PI, about poison, about constitutional violations, about knowing who did this but not saying.

The sooner she controls her mouth, the sooner she can let her defense team get a word in, so she can effectively participate in her own defense. Then she can maybe have an ounce of say over WHERE she spends her LWOP.

She still thinks she's getting out.

Newsflash: (IMO) THAT'S not happening. Stuff napkins in your pants, claim a peanut allergy, spout constitutional violations, wrap yourself in a flag, it's not happening.

I'm just sorry she's able to continue inflicting pain on Gannon's family.

May it somehow provide them a piece of peace to know that T isn't garnering any sympathy, just showing the world what's she's made of. And it'd not pretty.

Pilar of nothing but desparation.

JMOJMOJMO

 

[Lovethesouth]

OMG, if I had to read it in her presence, I'd be cracking up!

Wasn't it determined that TS did not have a doctorate degree?

I am glad her letter was entered into the court system as an official document. She may regard that as an invitation to write more. She writes as if her and the judge are peers or acquaintances. But I suspect that she is a thorn in his side or a pain in his A.

I agree she is a thorn in his side to she just won’t shut her trap ..... like I already said I knew it wouldn’t be long before she would either do or say something but it’s always right before court date how ironic.

Ah, it was fun saying the word with an s, lol!
I agree with you completely. Whether it be a drink or medication, I would need some form of anesthetization to deal with her on a daily bases. To dispute the evidence, they have to go over it with her, can you imagine? Do they have to dispute all of the evidence to provide effective counsel? I don't know.

I don’t know either but knowing LS b/c she claims she is innocent she will dispute it all imo. Plus she claims she had a PI and knows who did it... I know that if I were in her shoes and I knew I would certainly tell it and not talk about it

 

[katydid23]

Also, I don't think she is allowed or expected to see and touch and read all 30k pages of discovery.
Her attorneys share with her what their case will be, but she is not going to see every single sword of discovery.

Chase Merritt decided to be his own attorney in the McStay case, just so he could get his hands on all of that evidence. It helped him craft a nice set of lies to use in his Capitol Murder trial, once he finally agreed to allow a defense team to take over.

 

[NCWatcher]

Both posts are a base for good discussion as there is no precedence or room for error in this case.

I think jurors sitting in the gallery is a bad idea. We know that the layout of a courtroom is universal throughout the country. The reason is worth research. As a juror, I want to see the expressions and reactions of the defendant.

Even though rapid test results take 30 min, if folks are able to leave (potential exposure) it will have to be taken every day. And what happens if there is a positive result? I'm not asking you directly NCWatcher, just throwing in the question as a boost to your position

Sequestering may be the only option to get the wheels of justice moving. Given COVID, many of us are living that way already. Perhaps there are jurors that are willing to serve under sequestration. Given a nice hotel and good meals, I would volunteer. Yes that is costly as the entrees I like seem to always be among the most expensive, lol! But so is boarding, feeding and providing healthcare to an inmate awaiting trial due to a pandemic. I believe TS will run up the largest tab of all cases in CO's history $$

Hey Sleuth Bee,

I personally would be surprised if the jury for TS's trial were sequestered. Maybe fear of a COVID-infected juror mid-trial will make a difference. I agree that would be a big deal. But by that standard, all juries for trials lasting more than one day would have to be sequestered. And not only is that just not going to happen, even sequestration wouldn't be a guarantee against juror infection. (A false negative test result could happen with a juror at the beginning, for example. Or a baliff could pass the virus on as baliffs, the jury bus driver, hotel personnel, and so forth won't be sequestered.)

Sequestration is also costly and there have already been lots of court-related expenses for COVID (Cleaning courthouse, retrofits, etc.) Testing is also costly and rapid tests are not available everywhere. Finally, rapid COVID test results are less accurate than the takes-days slower PCR tests. Some estimate that half of the rapid negative results are wrong. In other words, half of the people who are told they are negative for COVID are positive. But even the slower PCR tests can be be wrong too. One study showed a 29% false negative rate.
Here’s Why We Can’t Rely on Rapid Coronavirus Testing

While we feel THIS trial is incredibly important (and it is) any criminal trial is important for the people involved and for the long-term maintenance of social order. So I don't think a decision can be made for sequestration based on the perceived "importance" of a given trial. And if there was a ranking of trial importance, how could that be done? If it's a murder trial, number of people killed? Only one person here. Would this trial be less important than a trial that involved two murders? Or three? Ugh. Public interest? Yikes. Bad precedent.

I agree there are issues related to rearranging the courtroom seating. But I disagree that all courtrooms are set up the same way. When we saw TS in court in March, she was seated in the jury box. Had jurors been seated there, it certainly appeared they would have had a full frontal view of the faces of all those at the defense and prosecution tables. All jury boxes are not like that.

Jurors can definitely see at least the sides of the faces of witnesses (although experienced witnesses often turn towards the jury during testimony) when I've been on juries in two different NC counties. But the faces of the defense and prosecution members were mostly viewable from the side depending on where one was seated in the box. And defense attorneys usually blocked the side view of defendents as their facial expressions aren't evidence unless they are on the stand. (On the other hand, some regard the defense's success in positioning Casey Anthony facing the jury as key to her aquittal. Certainly she behaved differently in the presence of the jury. Others blame sequestration. Still others blame the state for overcharging.)

When I've been a juror, those seated at one end towards the middle of the jury box had a good view of the judge and witnesses, side view of everyone else. Seated at the other end of the box, better view of defense/prosecution, less good view of the judge and witnesses.

I understand that sequestration affects the lives of those who are sequestered. And some legal experts have argued that sequestration can lead to poor decision-making by juries, in part because sequestration is so disruptive. Leaving that argument aside, I don't see how one could possibly "ask for volunteers." That's just not how jury selection works. And if that were done, I think it could constitute reversible error.

Finally, Rule 24 of the Colorado Rules of Criminal Procedure state (my italics):

"The court should only sequester jurors in extraordinary cases. Otherwise, (J)urors should be permitted to separate during all trial recesses, both before and after the case has been submitted to the jury for deliberation. Cautionary instructions as to their conduct during all recesses shall be given to the jurors by the court."

The jury wasn't sequestered in Colorado in the James Holmes case even though the defense requested it because of concerns over media influences during trial and potential juror exposure to inadmissable evidence. And that case involved the killing of 12 people and injury to 70 others.

Earlier someone posted sequestration was needed because TS is violent and bribes people. I can't find that post now, but it's not clear to me how sequestering the jury would be prevent TS from trying to exhibit violence in the courtroom. I also am drawing a blank on when she's been convicted of bribery (and how she could actually bribe an un-sequestered jury. What resources does she have? She's hardly a Mafia boss.)

I don't know what the solution is re: COVID. But I don't think sequestration is a magic bullet. And even if it was, there's still the issue of everyone else-- prosecution, defense, judge, witnesses, court reporters, baliffs, family members....

JMO

 

[10ofRods]

What would a person do if reading this in her presence? Laugh and laugh and laugh, with each sentence. She is such a joke. She gets peanut butter to eat with messages? LOL. Well, that’s more than Gannon is getting.

A Doctorate? If so, the school should be ashamed. She must have purchased her degree wherever she was able to buy that phony polygraph test.

Leticia, shut up. Just shut up. You aren’t going anywhere ever, except to prison. You never cared about Gannon’s rights.

The judge must be shaking his head.

IIRC, it was Liberty University. It's got its own problems right now.

 

[Panda Steps]

In response to those who replied to my post, a video conference is completely different from a phone call. When LS wrote about "phone calls," I pictured her only being able to talk to her defense team. She claims she cannot see videos, read documents, take notes, etc. I personally would hate being deprived of taking notes if I was LS because I learn better, studying the written word. However, I wouldn't have attempted to escape or assault a police officer, like LS did, making tighter security necessary. LS could be lying about everything, and I hope she is. The letter can be used against her in court as more proof of her habitual lying.

 

[Love Never Fails]

IIRC, it was Liberty University. It's got its own problems right now.

Sure does! People amaze me every day. And not in a good way.

 

[MsBetsy]

IIRC, it was Liberty University. It's got its own problems right now.

Yes, it's an online Christian College that 'was' run by Jerry Falwell. That's probably where she got all of her religious references.

All her talk about the constitution and the flag "getting a hole in it at Flanders Field" and "turning blood red in WW2" sound straight out of a sixth grade text book. She's like a psychopath who borrows terms and phrases from what's she's read or learned.

Her only original thoughts are delusional. People are poisoning her food and sending her messages in her peanut butter. She probably refused to eat and that's why they had to give her Ensure. She's nuttier than a squirrel.

 

[crhedBngr]

Whoever gave her a doctorate needs to take it back.

JMO

If (and that's a BIG If!!) she has a doctorate, she probably received it through an online degree mill.

I'll believe she has a Ph'd when you-know-what freezes.

 

[crhedBngr]

Now, for our morning beverages and donuts!



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[PorcelainCoveredInTinFoil]

Just gonna lay this link right here. Considering T deprived Gannon his right to life, justice, and the pursuit of happiness I'm not really appreciating T quoting/paraphrasing Cash at anyone.

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[Tealgrove]

Omg I have been busy and just really saw this... I knew it .. I knew it would not be long before she would have something to say

She just can't help herself. LOL It must be killing her not being able to get "her story out". It also looks like her lawyers are trying to keep her under wraps and quiet. Good Luck with that!

Never in my life have I followed a case with such a bizarre person at the centre of it all. NEVER.

MOO

 

[Tealgrove]

As I read her letter to the judge, I saw her employing her master manipulation on him. It has worked throughout her life, and she thought, why not give it a shot? She thought long and hard about writing this judge. This is what she came up with-- appeal to his perceived ethical value system, appeal to his authority for finding injustice, appeal to shared American patriotism, note her devotion to Christian beliefs, her reputation as a pillar in her community, her lack of drug use, her Phd degree and intelligence, and of course her innocence, and then figure out how to get his immediate attention. She really did cover everything she thought was important to him.

1--This needs your immediate attention. (My life is danger because someone is poisoning my food)

2--My nutritional health is in danger (I can't eat food except for Ensure)

3-The 8th amendment is being abused in my case (this amendment is for excessive bail or fines and resulting cruel punishment)

4-Covid 19 has prevented me from seeing my attorneys and reviewing massive files. (This could be legit)

5-I've been under scrutiny causing mental distress (she was caught hatching an escape plan)

6-I've been abused in transport, including ankle and wrist bleeding (she previously got out of her handcuffs and attacked an escort officer in the vehicle).

I don't doubt that her life behind bars is a nightmare for her. She is her own worst enemy and is suffering more due to the consequences of her escape plan...let alone the reality of what happens to you when you kill an innocent child.

All this^^^^^

 

[kittythehare]

Greetings, all.

I dumped FB for months but found with my kids back in school, that is the best way to stay on top of school-related things. I haven't been reading much on the Gannon pages, though. I see updates from LH's aunt that I read to keep sort of up to date. But have sort of been trying to avoid it. I must admit, I am feeling anxious about the upcoming trial and even coming here. I want to keep up, but this case sent me into such a major emotional spiral and I just don't know if I can go there again. Then I feel selfish and callous. If his family can be strong, I should be strong for them.

How do you veterans do it?

There are two questions there really.
The first is why we do it and every person is different and has different individual reasons.
How has many variants too, some connected with the why.
I do it because a victim seems to fly straight into my heart and lodge there.
I do not do it for 'justice' because I believe the only justice is the person getting their stolen life returned and that does not happen.
A part of me does feel that collective sharing of the burden lessens the load for the survivors and the victim too, if I'm feeling all spiritual and believe that human love transcends realms..
How? Methodology. Facts. Notes More Notes. Knowing where to find what is needed. Distance, Frequent breaks. Detachment.

 

[kittythehare]

Letecia Stauch files letter claiming mistreatment in jail

LS is claiming mistreatment.

ETA: link in the article to the letter isn’t working for me. But it’s on the court site.

https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/El_Paso/Stauch/Letter dated 8-12-20.pdf

here's another link
Letecia Stauch files letter claiming mistreatment in jail