Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #48

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Good Morning.

I like to think justice is one step closer for our G'Man today.

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Good Morning.

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I am sorry but I am very impatient and I know I shouldn’t be, but I can’t help it. I know the virus has an impact .. but dang a family has lost a child, brother, grandson, nephew, cousin and I feel like the wheels are turning backwards... this trial needs to get moving .. b/c nobody has anything to say ...I thought she would have acted up in jail by now .. she must be highly medicated and she would have to b/c she always has something to say ...jmo
 
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Thank you. That's possibly the reason she chose daughters second and third names.

I believe LS's first husband was also Lumbee. Certainly his last name is a common name in the Lumbee tribe. I'm not sure what the daughter's "second and third names" are. And we're supposed to use initials on WS anyway so I can't ask. But the last name/family name I've always seen for her daughter is the same as LS's first husband's. And so far as I know, there's absolutely no reason to think he wasn't the child's father. And no reason to think he had no input in choosing his child's name.

JMO
 
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I had a huge reality check today about jury trials in the county where I live, which has about 2/3 the population of El Paso County CO. YMMV.

I attended a Webex meeting for my boss today, of our county's Elder Justice Center Board of Directors. The Prosecutor's office recently conducted a mock jury trial, in order to figure out how it could work in today's pandemic reality.

For starters, they used a large exhibition event space at the county fairgrounds to conduct the jury selection with masks and social distancing. Once they had their jury selected, all the jurors had to make their own way downtown to the courthouse - no group transit.

More details:

No sitting in the jury box - can't maintain social distancing. So the jurors all sit in the gallery six feet apart and wearing masks. The prosecution and defense thus have their backs to the jury, wearing masks, making it even harder for jurors to hear.

Witnesses have to be there in person (6th amendment). They cannot wear masks when they are on the witness stand, and each witness sits in the jury box when it's their turn to testify.

Since the gallery is used for the jury, the community (who can't be barred from the trial) sit in another courtroom - socially distanced and wearing masks - watching a live stream of the proceedings. So that means two courtrooms are required for every trial!

Hearing all of this was so eye-opening, and gave me a new appreciation for just how complicated and time-consuming it will be to conduct jury trials for the foreseeable future.
 
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Sheesh! I wonder whether Al knew of her past and believed she was rehabilitated, or whether he had no idea. I’m in no way suggesting that he turned a blind eye, quite the opposite. I don’t believe for one second that he would have let LS in to his life and the lives of his children if he believed she was capable of this. His “hey buddy” texts to Gannon suggest to me that he felt something was wrong, parents intuition. I’m just wondering whether on top of losing his son, he has also had to deal with finding out all of this info about his wife and her past.

If sleuthing has taught me one thing, it’s to make full use of my amateur sleuthing skills to look up any prospective dates, prior to dating them. It’s sad to have to do this, but time and time again we are forced to realise the evil that exists in the world.
So true. When my daughter was dating, they first met for coffee or lunch and I had her do a background check before she went on a second date with anyone.

I imagine there is a certain amount of “what if” for AS. I think Leticia fed him a good line of bull and then kept up the pretense that she was devotedly caring for his family in his absence. Evil wormed her way into his family but I hope he always remembers that he was an involved, loving father. I bet Gannon wanted to grow up to be just like him.
 
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I'm rather impressed with Michael Allen.
I'm looking forward to seeing him deliver justice for Gannon's family, even though I'm not really looking forward to learning the brutal details of what this evil witch did to that sweet boy.
I absolutely agree ... Michael Allen is very professional and I am looking forward to the same thing ... he is straight up and to the point .. the voters did the right thing putting him in.
 
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So true. When my daughter was dating, they first met for coffee or lunch and I had her do a background check before she went on a second date with anyone.

I imagine there is a certain amount of “what if” for AS. I think Leticia fed him a good line of bull and then kept up the pretense that she was devotedly caring for his family in his absence. Evil wormed her way into his family but I hope he always remembers that he was an involved, loving father. I bet Gannon wanted to grow up to be just like him.
I think LS fed him a good line of bull to.. .. I have step children and it is hard to blend families but I know that I can call the other side if I have issues... and LS could of done the same thing because she knew how to get in contact with LH if she needed to.. no doubt she would of made arrangements to get him .. no sympathy at all for LS... we should be able to watch her in her cell like April the giraffe before she gave birth....jmo
 
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I had a huge reality check today about jury trials in the county where I live, which has about 2/3 the population of El Paso County CO. YMMV.

I attended a Webex meeting for my boss today, of our county's Elder Justice Center Board of Directors. The Prosecutor's office recently conducted a mock jury trial, in order to figure out how it could work in today's pandemic reality.

For starters, they used a large exhibition event space at the county fairgrounds to conduct the jury selection with masks and social distancing. Once they had their jury selected, all the jurors had to make their own way downtown to the courthouse - no group transit.

More details:

No sitting in the jury box - can't maintain social distancing. So the jurors all sit in the gallery six feet apart and wearing masks. The prosecution and defense thus have their backs to the jury, wearing masks, making it even harder for jurors to hear.

Witnesses have to be there in person (6th amendment). They cannot wear masks when they are on the witness stand, and each witness sits in the jury box when it's their turn to testify.

Since the gallery is used for the jury, the community (who can't be barred from the trial) sit in another courtroom - socially distanced and wearing masks - watching a live stream of the proceedings. So that means two courtrooms are required for every trial!

Hearing all of this was so eye-opening, and gave me a new appreciation for just how complicated and time-consuming it will be to conduct jury trials for the foreseeable future.

I have a friend entering the police academy. Each new recruit is tested for covid 19 before being allowed in.

Perhaps the court could test (all negative) then sequester. It'd suck for jurors.

Witnesses can wear face shields.
 
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I have a friend entering the police academy. Each new recruit is tested for covid 19 before being allowed in.

Perhaps the court could test (all negative) then sequester. It'd suck for jurors.

Witnesses can wear face shields.

While that approach could be helpful, it's not foolproof and could give some people a false sense of security.

First, testing the entire jury pool is probably not realistic. So voir dire would still need to occur somehow. Second, COVID test results aren't instantly available so far as I know. (I think rapid results tests take 30 minutes or so. Other types of tests take days to return results.) And third, results can be wrong. (False negatives would be a big concern.) But assuming the jury has been chosen, assuming there are tests available, and assuming rapid results are possible, a juror could have been infected on the way to the courthouse and therefore would have an initial negative test. But hours to days later (after being in close contact with the other jurors), boom!

I think it's still an open question re: the value of face shields. In medical settings those are used to protect the face from splashes of bodily fluids, not to protect from airborne contaminants (since they are open at the bottom.) So I'm not sure how much they'd protect re: COVID.

I don't know what the solution is. Obviously we have to be able to have jury trials but we can't do that in a way that puts participants in undue danger or creates an unfair situation for any defendant.

I sure wouldn't want to be called for jury duty these days. And sequestering juries can have very weird effects on verdicts, not to mention the huge costs of doing that.
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I have a friend entering the police academy. Each new recruit is tested for covid 19 before being allowed in.

Perhaps the court could test (all negative) then sequester. It'd suck for jurors.

Witnesses can wear face shields.

Apples vs. oranges. IMO

One person entering the police academy is nowhere near the same situation as 12 jurors plus two alternates, plus judge, court reporter and bailiffs, plus prosecution and defense teams, plus the accused, plus witnesses, plus the community, plus media.

In order to give sleuthers more of a sense of why it could be taking so long to get the murderer to face justice, I posted what our prosecutor's office is contemplating doing based on the conditions in our state (the original epicenter in the US) and county. Face shields are not allowed under our state's mask order. They do not protect others from either symptomatic or asymptomatic people exhaling the virus into the atmosphere in enclosed areas like a courtroom.

Further, there are no rapid tests in our county. Results take 3-4 days.

I could go on and on but I don't want to veer off topic any more than I already have.
 
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Apples vs. oranges.

One person entering the police academy is nowhere near the same situation as 12 jurors plus two alternates, plus judge, court reporter and bailiffs, plus prosecution and defense teams, plus the accused, plus witnesses, plus the community, plus media.

In order to give sleuthers more of a sense of why it could be taking so long to get the murderer to face justice, I posted what our prosecutor's office is contemplating doing based on the conditions in our state (the original epicenter in the US) and county. Face shields are not allowed under our state's mask order. They do not protect others from either symptomatic or asymptomatic people exhaling the virus into the atmosphere in enclosed areas like a courtroom.

Further, there are no rapid tests in our county. Results take 3-4 days.

I could go on and on but I don't want to veer off topic any more than I already have.

It's gonna be such a long time coming tho', such a very long time.
It's difficult to find ways to pass the time while waiting.
I'm reminding myself that I'm already forgetting what I already knew. By the time the trial starts that will have multiplied phenomenally.

It is possible, I suppose that they will attempt to use a much bigger building, but even then, without an amazing ventilation system a degree of risk will remain and persist.
Almost like another nail in the coffin for justice, ominous, in a manner.
 
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