Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *Arrest* #53

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  • #681
IIRC, LS initially came up with an outrageous story about being attacked by someone in the basement yet she was allowed to go upstairs to get minor step-daughter and then would go back down to basement for more abuse by attacker. Made no sense. Of course she claimed head trauma (but imo she already had head trauma and it wasn't from any attack) from the incident …

Supposedly, Gannon sees the attack and is kidnapped by the attacker, LS claimed. LS blamed it on an Hispanic male being her attacker, and Gannon's kidnapper.

Does the story even sound credible … no, not imo. Red flags everywhere are flying. Additionally, this man had agreed to repair the carpet from the candle incident and that’s how he was able to get in the house, LS claimed.

LE was able to prove this ridiculous story false via her phone records and text messages. Something to that effort.

moo
Yeppers
then she said Quincy Brown ( An inmate at the time) was the perp that raped her and took Gannon
she also said her absense from work was due to her Step Father dying !!!

  1. When EPSO came to the house on 1/27 the abductor was still in the house and she tried to tell deputies that somebody was there. EPSO deputies checked the entirety of the house and no additional person was located
  2. She was raped by Quincy Brown at her home and Brown abducted Gannon. She knew Brown’s identity because she saw a paper with his ID car fall out of his pocket. Letecia sent a photo of Quincy Brown to Al via text
  3. Quincy followed her from Petco. At some point was laying the middle of the road in front of her. When she stopped not to run him over, he jumped in the car and made her take him home where he raped her
  4. Letecia and Gannon were near County Line Road and Highway 105 in N El Paso County on 1/27. Gannon was riding a bicycle in the area, fell, hit his head and was then abducted by Quincy Brown. Brown was driven by a man named Terence.
 
  • #682
I don't think LS should testify.
 
  • #683
The correct term is 'dissociative disorder'. I think the defense is specifically claiming it is Dissociative Identity Disorder. (I am not a psych, but I have a dissociative disorder myself.)

https://www.mind.org.uk/information...nd-dissociative-disorders/about-dissociation/

However, we don't know that it was a dissociative disorder she claimed to have in her letter to the judge, since that censored the name of whatever condition she wrote.

MOO
Correct, we don’t know what LS claimed she was diagnosed with in 2016 in South Carolina because it’s redacted from her letter dated 2/21/2021. She mentions “ breaks from reality “.


She had also written a letter to the Judge in August 2020 where she complained of physical abuse, threats in her food (peanut butter), quoted the Bible, the United State’s Constitution and a Johnny Cash song about our flag. She mentioned how hard she had worked for her Doctorate degree and couldn’t wait to repair her mental state.
She signed the letter Doctor.


December 9, 2021

EL PASO COUNTY — Letecia Stauch, the El Paso County woman charged with murdering her 11-year-old stepson, Gannon Stauch, will have another mental health evaluation.

She appeared in court, virtually, at a hearing on Thursday where the decision was made. Her lawyers argued she suffers from a "dis-associative disorder," and there are concerns about how this played a role in Gannon Stauch's death.

I wish I had a solution, but I don't" said Werner, referring to the timing concerns.

The state hospital says they have downsized their capacity by 95 beds due to staffing issues.

"We do have many vacant positions at the state hospital, a lot of those are nursing and direct staff. We can't securely manage individuals and that's why we made that decision," said Jagruti Shah with the Colorado Mental Health Institute in Pueblo.

At a previous hearing, the defense said on Thursday they plan on introducing new evidence regarding a mental health issue related to Letecia. They said that the mental health defense would only apply to Letecia's actions after the alleged murder of Gannon. The judge said it's likely this mental health defense could be related to the charge of tampering with a body or anything after the alleged murder.
[…]


IMO the claims of LS and her Defense team regarding her mental state before,during and after her vicious behavior towards this innocent child can never explain or excuse her actions.
 
  • #684
This is Dr. Dorothy Lewis -- the clinical psychiatrist that hasn't been able to get a report to El Paso County District Court as featured in the 2020 HBO feature "Crazy, Not Insane."




“Don’t you ever wonder why you don’t murder?” Dr. Dorothy Otnow Lewis asks in the trailer for HBO’s new documentary Crazy, Not Insane.

Lewis has spent her career trying to answer that question. The clinical psychiatrist has interviewed more than 20 serial killers, including Arthur Shawcross and Ted Bundy, and believes many serial killers have dissociative identity disorder (previously known as multiple personality disorder). In Crazy, Not Insane, Alex Gibney (known for The Inventor: Out for Blood in Silicon Valley) traces Lewis’ lifelong attempt to understand why some people kill — and unraveling that question can be more difficult than meets the eye.

“I think that I made the wrong diagnosis,” Lewis, now in her 80s, tells Refinery29 of Bundy. She interviewed Bundy four times in 1986 at the defense’s request, and concluded that he likely developed psychological problems as a baby, the Associated Press reported in 1989. Bundy exhibited unusual behavior when living with his grandparents, such as placing butcher knives beside his aunt when he was three, and meaning he could have had a genetic predisposition to mental illness. Bundy only had fond memories of his grandfather, whom Lewis described to Refinery29 as “allegedly an extraordinarily brutal man,” and apparently blocked out other known incidents.

After Bundy’s death, however, Lewis gained a deeper insight into his mind through “love letters” he had sent his wife, who contacted Lewis and sent her copies.

“When I looked through them, I saw that, although some of them were signed ‘Ted,’ that quite a few of them were signed with other names,” Lewis explained to Refinery29. Some of them were variations of his grandfather’s name.
 
  • #685
I don't think LS should testify.
In the beginning I had thought that she would actually have the chutzpah to want that.. seeing how she wanted to represent herself ( LOL)

It’s hard to predict I but I just can’t see her or her Defense thinking it would be a good idea to have her speak. What in the WORLD could she say to explain away all the evidence?
She wouldn’t even show her face at her Prelim.


Stauch’s case has taken several twists and turns since her arrest in March 2020, starting with allegedly slipping out of her handcuffs in the back of her transport vehicle from South Carolina to Colorado and attacking a deputy. In May 2020, her attorneys filed a pair of motions calling for her preliminary hearing to be pushed back, as well as possibly allowing the woman accused of killing her stepson to bond out of jail. The latter motion cited COVID-19 as a concern and suggested granting Stauch a bond “so that she is able to have video and phone access with counsel from the safety of her home.”

Then in June of that same year, Stauch was handed escape charges for allegedly hatching a plot to break out of the El Paso County jail.

Two competency hearings followed that alleged escape scheme, and she was found competent to stand trial. But then another delay when Stauch earlier this year requested to represent herself. After repeatedly questioning whether she really wanted to do that, the judge obliged. Stauch would later reverse course and ask for her lawyers back -- pushing her May preliminary hearing first to August, and then to this week.

Thursday was no less short on drama, as Stauch asked to be excused from her own preliminary hearing.
 
  • #686
I don't think LS should testify.
I don't think LS cares what you OR her attorneys think. She will probably want to do so anyway---since she is so smart and all. She thinks she can show the jury she has mental health problems so she can live in a hospital instead of a cell. :rolleyes:
 
  • #687
I don't think LS cares what you OR her attorneys think. She will probably want to do so anyway---since she is so smart and all.
Yep.

It didn't work for Sally McNeil. She went against her lawyer's advice, got on the stand, and she lived to regret it. And she was (IMO) a far more 'sympathetic' killer than LS. Though domestic violence wasn't as understood then, it was at least in the mix in her defense. These days, I think her sentencing would be far lighter, even with the terrible showing on the stand, even with the fact that she reloaded and gave her husband a second shot to the head.

As far as I can tell there is no defense in this case. Just the brutal slaughter of a young, goodhearted, slightly-built boy. She can't claim self defense. She can't claim rape (though she loves to do that). She can't claim it was accidental. All she can do is get up there and dig the hole she's in far deeper.

MOO
 
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  • #688
This is Dr. Dorothy Lewis -- the clinical psychiatrist that hasn't been able to get a report to El Paso County District Court as featured in the 2020 HBO feature "Crazy, Not Insane."




“Don’t you ever wonder why you don’t murder?” Dr. Dorothy Otnow Lewis asks in the trailer for HBO’s new documentary Crazy, Not Insane.

Lewis has spent her career trying to answer that question. The clinical psychiatrist has interviewed more than 20 serial killers, including Arthur Shawcross and Ted Bundy, and believes many serial killers have dissociative identity disorder (previously known as multiple personality disorder). In Crazy, Not Insane, Alex Gibney (known for The Inventor: Out for Blood in Silicon Valley) traces Lewis’ lifelong attempt to understand why some people kill — and unraveling that question can be more difficult than meets the eye.

“I think that I made the wrong diagnosis,” Lewis, now in her 80s, tells Refinery29 of Bundy. She interviewed Bundy four times in 1986 at the defense’s request, and concluded that he likely developed psychological problems as a baby, the Associated Press reported in 1989. Bundy exhibited unusual behavior when living with his grandparents, such as placing butcher knives beside his aunt when he was three, and meaning he could have had a genetic predisposition to mental illness. Bundy only had fond memories of his grandfather, whom Lewis described to Refinery29 as “allegedly an extraordinarily brutal man,” and apparently blocked out other known incidents.

After Bundy’s death, however, Lewis gained a deeper insight into his mind through “love letters” he had sent his wife, who contacted Lewis and sent her copies.

“When I looked through them, I saw that, although some of them were signed ‘Ted,’ that quite a few of them were signed with other names,” Lewis explained to Refinery29. Some of them were variations of his grandfather’s name.
[…]

In another scene, Lewis offered her thoughts on the case of Ricky Ray Rector, who killed a man and a police officer in Arkansas in 1981. Rector had been accustomed to saving his dessert for a while after dinner. He’s said to have asked to eat his pecan pie after his execution.

“Now I would say he didn’t know what it meant to be executed. But my colleagues found that he was perfectly competent to be executed. And I don’t know who ate the pie," Lewis quipped.

Lewis had been trained, she said in the film, not to believe people who claimed to have multiple personalities. However, her interviews kept telling her otherwise. Videos of her conversations show her talking to murderers and unearthing new personalities, ones sometimes defined by previous abuse. Often the killer’s demeanor and voice would change.


“I think it’s a hoax,” he said of dissociative identity disorder, adding in the film that he believed Lewis’ techniques caused people to think they had multiple personalities. “I think it’s a sad fact that people in my profession were so eager to find something that they did a form of interviewing that can cause vulnerable people to believe they have more than one personality.”

The jury sided with the prosecution, and Lewis’ testimony was mocked around Rochester, New York. Local radio stations even made a satirical song. As Lewis said in the documentary, it took the jury about two hours to find Shawcross guilty, but more than three years for her to recover from taking the stand. Nobody had believed her.

But the doctor stands by her work. Lewis’ resolve is perhaps best encapsulated by her response to a question by the interviewer. He asked why attorneys hired her.

Lewis acknowledged the lawyers calling her probably hope she finds their client “stark raving mad,” but that doesn’t sway her.
“I don’t really care for what purpose; I do the same evaluation.”

 
  • #689
[…]

In another scene, Lewis offered her thoughts on the case of Ricky Ray Rector, who killed a man and a police officer in Arkansas in 1981. Rector had been accustomed to saving his dessert for a while after dinner. He’s said to have asked to eat his pecan pie after his execution.

“Now I would say he didn’t know what it meant to be executed. But my colleagues found that he was perfectly competent to be executed. And I don’t know who ate the pie," Lewis quipped.

Lewis had been trained, she said in the film, not to believe people who claimed to have multiple personalities. However, her interviews kept telling her otherwise. Videos of her conversations show her talking to murderers and unearthing new personalities, ones sometimes defined by previous abuse. Often the killer’s demeanor and voice would change.


“I think it’s a hoax,” he said of dissociative identity disorder, adding in the film that he believed Lewis’ techniques caused people to think they had multiple personalities. “I think it’s a sad fact that people in my profession were so eager to find something that they did a form of interviewing that can cause vulnerable people to believe they have more than one personality.”

The jury sided with the prosecution, and Lewis’ testimony was mocked around Rochester, New York. Local radio stations even made a satirical song. As Lewis said in the documentary, it took the jury about two hours to find Shawcross guilty, but more than three years for her to recover from taking the stand. Nobody had believed her.

But the doctor stands by her work. Lewis’ resolve is perhaps best encapsulated by her response to a question by the interviewer. He asked why attorneys hired her.

Lewis acknowledged the lawyers calling her probably hope she finds their client “stark raving mad,” but that doesn’t sway her.
“I don’t really care for what purpose; I do the same evaluation.”


I just watched the HBO documentary -- "Crazy, Not Insane," and I halfway feel obligated to send Judge Werner a message, suggesting he watch the first 7 minutes and he'll understand why the Court did not receive a report from Ms. Lewis timely!

It appears that she doesn't use any voice notes or electronic devices to take notes but instead, hand writes everything in a not-so-organized fashion, and her son is ultimately responsible for translating Lewis' chaotic hand notes into a legible word document.

Judge Werner ordered the submission of the final sanity report to the court by Thursday, March 16 at 5 p.m. “It is not a suggestion, it is not a guideline, it is not a hope, it is a deadline,” said Judge Werner.

3/16/23
 
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I just watched the HBO documentary -- "Crazy, Not Insane," and I halfway feel obligated to send Judge Werner a message, suggesting he watch the first 7 minutes and he'll understand why the Court did not receive a report from Ms. Lewis timely!

It appears that she doesn't use any voice notes or electronic devices to take notes but instead, hand writes everything in a not-so-organized fashion, and her son is ultimately responsible for translating Lewis' chaotic hand notes into a legible word document.

Judge Werner ordered the submission of the final sanity report to the court by Thursday, March 16 at 5 p.m. “It is not a suggestion, it is not a guideline, it is not a hope, it is a deadline,” said Judge Werner.

3/16/23
That still shouldn't take months. Not unless the final document is an illuminated manuscript on vellum with hand-ground pigments.

I wonder if the defense is regretting hiring her. On the one hand, diagnosing killers seems to be something of a pet project with her. On the other, she's doing the expert equivalent of ghosting them. It's eaten up all the time they could have used to find someone else sympathetic to the sound of dollars, and is just annoying the judge unnecessarily ahead of the trial. It's far from ideal when they haven't even been through jury selection.

MOO
 
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That still shouldn't take months. Not unless the final document is an illuminated manuscript on vellum with hand-ground pigments.

I wonder if the defense is regretting hiring her. On the one hand, diagnosing killers seems to be something of a pet project with her. On the other, she's doing the expert equivalent of ghosting them. It's eaten up all the time they could have used to find someone else sympathetic to the sound of dollars, and is just annoying the judge unnecessarily ahead of the trial. It's far from an ideal when they haven't even been through jury selection.

MOO

I would not be surprised if she lost the notes and has been looking for them for months in the heaps she circulates around her living room!
 
  • #692
I would not be surprised if she lost the notes and has been looking for them for months in the heaps she circulates around her living room!
My opinion, as another freeform filer - this is incredibly possible.

MOO
 
  • #693
If the jury is allowed to watch the candle wax video, it will take about an hour to deliberate and a half an hour for the final paperwork to stamp GUILTY on.
That video broke something inside of me. I wish I had never listened to it.
 
  • #694
That video broke something inside of me. I wish I had never listened to it.
I've never listened to it, never will. I saw how many folks were traumatised by it when I read all the threads from the beginning over the last month or so. I don't need that in my head. I have enough horrors in there already.

MOO
 
  • #695
If the jury is allowed to watch the candle wax video, it will take about an hour to deliberate and a half an hour for the final paperwork to stamp GUILTY on.
Don't be too sure about that. If you recall, even among those of us who did see it, there was some level of disagreement on what we were actually seeing. While I don't recall anyone disagreeing it was LS being creepy as hello, there was some level of disagreement on the details of what we were actually seeing. Which, even though we all know what this evil witch did, may leave some room for doubt with certain jurors.

I must have played it a hundred times, pausing and comparing stills to the real estate listing pics of the layout of the house, to get a more accurate idea of which rooms I was seeing. Which is just a long way of saying, don't be too sure random jurors will see what we all saw. Although I certainly hope you're right.
 
  • #696
Honestly, sitting on this jury, I don't know if I could do it. LS is pure evil. She took out her twisted rage on a child. There is zero doubt that she did it, which is why the "Insanity" route was the only option here.

Unless she is still sticking with the story that she was kidnapped...
 
  • #697
The trail is finally nearing and LS long dreaded fear - the details of her shame on full public display for all to see and know. imo
 
  • #698
I've never listened to it, never will. I saw how many folks were traumatised by it when I read all the threads from the beginning over the last month or so. I don't need that in my head. I have enough horrors in there already.

MOO
Well said. It's evil beyond belief that will haunt you and make you question so many things. I don't even want to begin to imagine the pain Gannon's parents feel. moo
 
  • #699
I just watched the HBO documentary -- "Crazy, Not Insane," and I halfway feel obligated to send Judge Werner a message, suggesting he watch the first 7 minutes and he'll understand why the Court did not receive a report from Ms. Lewis timely!

It appears that she doesn't use any voice notes or electronic devices to take notes but instead, hand writes everything in a not-so-organized fashion, and her son is ultimately responsible for translating Lewis' chaotic hand notes into a legible word document.

Judge Werner ordered the submission of the final sanity report to the court by Thursday, March 16 at 5 p.m. “It is not a suggestion, it is not a guideline, it is not a hope, it is a deadline,” said Judge Werner.

3/16/23
Wow. If she takes her own notes and then has her son translate them, there could be an entirely different “interpretation”. IMO.
I would not trust her at all, whether I was attorney or judge.
 
  • #700
Can’t wait to hear jurors selected and she goes to trial. Can you imagine one juror having sympathy for someone who murdered a little boy they were caring for or supervising?
 
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