Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #24 **ARREST**

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  • #141
Hm. That strikes me as pretty hypothetical, but I will bite.:) What things point to that being a possibility here in your opinion?

I remember some poster mentioned that the particular branch of military he is in is a special operation. They could have used TS and everything else she did to Gannon as part of that plot. She is also strikingly confident she won’t be held to account for any of it.
 
  • #142
@H73 asked if someone on this forum could run a license plate... made me think of something. My brother is a police officer in a different state and his department has automated plate readers that uses IR technology and reads ALL the plates around his vehicle at all times and alerts him if there are any warrants etc...
His computer stores the info including location information. Wondering if LE in Colorado utilize this same technology and if yes, they would also be able to run the license plates of ALL of the vehicles available to TS to see if they were picked up anywhere by one of the automatic readers. Anyone know?
 
  • #143
Yep they r on it and i feel pretty confident that everytime they find something that crime lab will return to the home.
Of course I also think that means we can expect for TS to follow with word salads. So I don’t think we have heard the last from her. She has a lot more “explaining” to do. Moo
She may have some post-splaining to do, ya mean?;)
 
  • #144
Re: The Rental Car

Was it ever parked at the family home? Did anyone see her driving it? Did Albert drive it? Did anyone see Albert driving it, if he did in fact drive it?

Did anyone see Tee from Monday night into Wednesday? Do we have a CONFIRMED date as to when Tee LEFT the family home?

I've been doing a lot of skimming trying to catch up so forgive me if this has been asked and answered somewhere?
I'm thinking along these same lines. I can't answer your questions, but I do know LS made reference to people thinking she had disappeared, during that first interview (backwards). And she rented a car Tuesday morning and possibly put 900+ miles on it. Apparently people didn't see her around... Where did she go?

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  • #145
So I keep going back to the beginning -- to her *first* story, that he was a runaway, and to her confidence in her eventual vindication -- before any of the proverbial merde started hitting the fan. It seems to me that whatever happened would have to had to have been *designed* to be optically consistent, at least in terms of the way she *expected* things to play out, with her first narrative.

And it also seems to me that her ideal scenario must have been something that would make *everyone* see how wonderful she was -- including her dh -- and there's simply no way *any* parent would still think you were wonderful upon finding out that their child had died while left in your care, even accidentally.

So perhaps there *was* no disposing of a body. Perhaps the goal was to have staged a runaway, and then for her to subsequently have found the little transgressor and emerged heroically, cementing her reputation (not only in the community but also in the eyes of her husband) as the beleaguered but tolerant and deeply loving stepmom..

But then -- how could this have happened without the boy having been able to refute the narrative? Maybe this is where the questions re the meds play in. What if she left a mildly injured and perhaps slightly overdosed kiddo, who had (predictably) fallen asleep in the car, in a place from which she expected him to eventually emerge safe and sound, and of his own volition..

But then, he doesn't come back.

And on top of that, she then perhaps goes hunting, and he doesn't even seem to be anywhere near where she had expected to find him. Maybe full panic mode ensues, and she's actually kind of as confused as everybody else ... except that she no longer really has the luxury of being able to tell the truth (and there is nothing like lying to addle the brain). And maybe this also explains why her story is constantly in flux -- because it's changing along w her best guessses as to what's actually transpired.

And *then* at some point it would perhaps have occurred to her that there may still be some traces of some minor (if still egregious) harm done to the boy -- which now turns into a major issue rather than an minor one, and maybe what she is trying to hide with all the vehicle sleight-of-hand is not evidence of a felony, but rather evidence of having been a catastrophically crummy stepmother.

And finally, her vision of having emerged from this ill-conceived charade as champion of the day has turned to absolute panic. And to me, that state of mind could explain the incoherence of all her communications to date …

Okay, just a thought …
Wow. I have in the past considered a hoax. But #1 what was the ultimate purpose of this hoax? Who was she trying to prove a hero to and why the need to be so extreme?
and #2 wouldn’t Gannon have to be in on this runaway scheme? Otherwise as soon as she finds him he’d say no I didn’t runaway she hurt me, drugged me, and left me.
 
  • #146
We think LE probably questioned LS Tuesday or Wednesday, but it’s not confirmed for sure. We don’t know if anyone else saw her.

There are theories about when she left, but we don’t know that for sure either.

No one besides LS has said that AS was in the car. She said they rode home in it together so seemingly, if she is telling the truth, it was at the house at least momentarily. AS has wisely kept his mouth shut.

Hoping LE knows more on these questions than we do. Good thoughts.

Re: The Rental Car

Was it ever parked at the family home? Did anyone see her driving it? Did Albert drive it? Did anyone see Albert driving it, if he did in fact drive it?

Did anyone see Tee from Monday night into Wednesday? Do we have a CONFIRMED date as to when Tee LEFT the family home?

I've been doing a lot of skimming trying to catch up so forgive me if this has been asked and answered somewhere?
 
  • #147
Dog Park theory.... Dogs would be all over that and he'd be found by now, imo.

I think LS is clouding the waters on purpose. Have LE looking everywhere. She ran with the story of Gannon being seen at the 🤬🤬🤬 & Go, when surveillance video showed a boy in blue jeans and blue shirt. Until LH said nope, not my boy. From the beginning she's muddying things up.

I'm not caught up and have a busy day ahead of me. Good luck today, everyone. Come home, Gannon!
 
  • #148
Wow. I have in the past considered a hoax. But #1 what was the ultimate purpose of this hoax? Who was she trying to prove a hero to and why the need to be so extreme?
and #2 wouldn’t Gannon have to be in on this runaway scheme? Otherwise as soon as she finds him he’d say no I didn’t runaway she hurt me, drugged me, and left me.
I guess on #1, my feeling is that she felt wildly unappreciated, and that she also felt that dealing w a stepson was a chore … and perhaps she had a little too much time on her hands and got a little too creative about "how can I get more love and more respect and make it clear to the world what a trial all the work I have been doing for someone else's child has been?!" … and on #2, no -- I don't think he would necessarily *know* that she'd drugged him, right? … but still, I admit; I'm just trying to play devil's advocate a little … trying to think outside the box …
 
  • #149
I am sure that’s true. At the same time, I fly quite a few times a year to cities where I rent cars. I most frequently use Budget or Dollar. And I cannot think of a single time where an attendant did not in some way check and record the actual mileage. Sometimes they even have me sit behind the wheel and verify the odometer after I check the damage before I sign too. Now I realize my experience is anecdotal and we shouldn’t assume because that has consistently been my experience that it is the experience all rental car customers would have across all companies in all locations. But it’s the same for the negative reviews like you said. Their anecdotal experiences also don’t dictate how people will be served on a different day by different service agents in different companies in different locations.

Maybe I am wrong, but I feel like the great majority of people here think the 5/955 could POSSIBLY be accurate. What we disagree on perhaps is the likelihood.

Based on my experience, I am willing to say there’s a 50/50 chance it’s accurate. What would all of you say? 40(accurate)/60 inaccurate? 30/70? 20/10? Just curious.

I’ll hop in at 40/60. So high enough to care.
 
  • #150
Great idea. A map would be helpful for us out of towners especially.
I agree. I am not from Colorado and keep getting turned around when everyone is talking about places.
 
  • #151
Dog Park theory.... Dogs would be all over that and he'd be found by now, imo.

I think LS is clouding the waters on purpose. Have LE looking everywhere. She ran with the story of Gannon being seen at the 🤬🤬🤬 & Go, when surveillance video showed a boy in blue jeans and blue shirt. Until LH said nope, not my boy. From the beginning she's muddying things up.

I'm not caught up and have a busy day ahead of me. Good luck today, everyone. Come home, Gannon!

I am speculating a hand off to a bad person at the dog park. For reasons consistent with my previous post.
 
  • #152
So I keep going back to the beginning -- to her *first* story, that he was a runaway, and to her confidence in her eventual vindication -- before any of the proverbial merde started hitting the fan. It seems to me that whatever happened would have to had to have been *designed* to be optically consistent, at least in terms of the way she *expected* things to play out, with her first narrative.

And it also seems to me that her ideal scenario must have been something that would make *everyone* see how wonderful she was -- including her dh -- and there's simply no way *any* parent would still think you were wonderful upon finding out that their child had died while left in your care, even accidentally.

So perhaps there *was* no disposing of a body. Perhaps the goal was to have staged a runaway, and then for her to subsequently have found the little transgressor and emerged heroically, cementing her reputation (not only in the community but also in the eyes of her husband) as the beleaguered but tolerant and deeply loving stepmom..

But then -- how could this have happened without the boy having been able to refute the narrative? Maybe this is where the questions re the meds play in. What if she left a mildly injured and perhaps slightly overdosed kiddo, who had (predictably) fallen asleep in the car, in a place from which she expected him to eventually emerge safe and sound, and of his own volition..

But then, he doesn't come back.

And on top of that, she then perhaps goes hunting, and he doesn't even seem to be anywhere near where she had expected to find him. Maybe full panic mode ensues, and she's actually kind of as confused as everybody else ... except that she no longer really has the luxury of being able to tell the truth (and there is nothing like lying to addle the brain). And maybe this also explains why her story is constantly in flux -- because it's changing along w her best guessses as to what's actually transpired.

And *then* at some point it would perhaps have occurred to her that there may still be some traces of some minor (if still egregious) harm done to the boy -- which now turns into a major issue rather than an minor one, and maybe what she is trying to hide with all the vehicle sleight-of-hand is not evidence of a felony, but rather evidence of having been a catastrophically crummy stepmother.

And finally, her vision of having emerged from this ill-conceived charade as champion of the day has turned to absolute panic. And to me, that state of mind could explain the incoherence of all her communications to date …

Okay, just a thought …
The searches so far away indicate the red truck was near those areas, only way your scenario fits is slim possibility she took him on punishment ride, he pooped his pants, she threw them out, and drove on, and any other findings they have, but I am w/ you on your ultimate thought...to paraphrase JMOO, she could have been so cruel as to actually caused him to hide til Dad came home, and then started the multitude of lies, because somehow I believe she would have had a better story made up... she could have left him in the search area, planning to go back and things changed... I keep thinking this, my fear all along is that she could have taken the whole investigation in the wrong direction, either because of her lies or her guilty conscience. I DO NOT think LE has been fooled by her behavior and that is the whole “ pursuing all leads” early on...I am confident they are on track...biggest flaw in our speculation....we would have to have another unknown evil person in proximity to our known evil... persons like LS torment and manipulate people as a pastime, I picture this as a cat playing w/ a lizard, eventually the poor lizard dies, and they wonder why?
 
  • #153
I am speculating a hand off to a bad person at the dog park. For reasons consistent with my previous post.

I feel that he is suffering and needs to be rescued.
 
  • #154
We think LE probably questioned LS Tuesday or Wednesday, but it’s not confirmed for sure. We don’t know if anyone else saw her.

There are theories about when she left, but we don’t know that for sure either.

No one besides LS has said that AS was in the car. She said they rode home in it together so seemingly, if she is telling the truth, it was at the house at least momentarily. AS has wisely kept his mouth shut.

Hoping LE knows more on these questions than we do. Good thoughts.
Eexcellent post Doc!!

"No one besides LS has said that AS was in the car. She said they rode home in it together so seemingly, if she is telling the truth, it was at the house at least momentarily. AS has wisely kept his mouth shut."

As is wise.
TS on the other hand is a fool and a liar.

TS is also narcissist. Her interviews and statements shows she is.

A narcissists, in my experience, are noteworthy for their principal trait of overvaluing themselves at the expense of devaluing others.

They think of themselves as special, privileged, entitled, and void of flaws — in other words, they give themselves plenty of latitude, while giving others little to none. In their mind, they are always right, and the rules don’t really apply to them.

They are incapable of admitting mistakes and taking responsibility. If things work, they believe it is thanks to them. If things fail, it’s the fault of others.

Um ya.....that pretty much fits T to a "T"
 
  • #155
What if Gannon was taken as part of a nefarious plot because his father discovered something he was not supposed to know.

I'm not ruling anything out where stepmom is concerned. I've even let my mind wonder if she is part of the "dark web" and sold poor Gannon.

I truly hope LE know so much more about her than we even think they might.
 
  • #156
Praying for Gannon's safe return to his loving family and friends. Never miss an opportunity to hug your babies tight and to show them how much you love them. Each day that we have to spend with all our loved ones is a blessing. Have a good day everyone. Keep up the good work!
 
  • #157
This is where my mind goes for dog parks too. Lots of doggos, with their doggo noses with their incredible sense of doggo smell, all running off leash. And often pretty busy.

I agree with this, but I was curious what the area surrounding the dog park near the search sites is like. I ask because we have a local dog park that is huge and open, but then directly surrounding it the area is all heavily wooded and something would easily be hidden for a long time unless someone went looking. She could use the dog park as an excuse for any pings in the area. My thinking was maybe she was setting up a whole story of stopping to get things for the dogs and then going to the dog park as a cover story and he could be found nearby, but not actually in the park. Heck she might even think if Gannon is found there she could say he ran away from her at the park and she was scared when she couldn't find him so she said he ran away from home instead. I think she didn't account for all the cameras in the neighborhood though and any cover story she concocted has been blown apart because of cameras and now we are seeing someone flailing.
 
  • #158
Eexcellent post Doc!!

"No one besides LS has said that AS was in the car. She said they rode home in it together so seemingly, if she is telling the truth, it was at the house at least momentarily. AS has wisely kept his mouth shut."

As is wise.
TS on the other hand is a fool and a liar.

TS is also narcissist. Her interviews and statements shows she is.

A narcissists, in my experience, are noteworthy for their principal trait of overvaluing themselves at the expense of devaluing others.

They think of themselves as special, privileged, entitled, and void of flaws — in other words, they give themselves plenty of latitude, while giving others little to none. In their mind, they are always right, and the rules don’t really apply to them.

They are incapable of admitting mistakes and taking responsibility. If things work, they believe it is thanks to them. If things fail, it’s the fault of others.

Um ya.....that pretty much fits T to a "T"

And again, AS may be having to be silent based on my latest theory.
 
  • #159
This is JMO as I don't have a MSM link, that TS had two small breed, fluffy dogs. I think she was misquoted there and she actually said "two little cute dogs." So, no I don't think she has Loki dogs.

Also a Loki would probably be out there finding his boy. :(
 
  • #160
Here for Gannon! I've had such a busy week, I try so hard to keep up! Awesome Sleuthing, Sleuthers! My nephew that lives not to far from Gannon that wanted to participate in the search a few weeks ago but, was told the search was called off due to weather conditions. He has since called asking if they need volunteers for upcoming searches? Was told No, only LE were searching but appreciated the call an would state if volunteers were needed at a later time.
My nephew mentioned to me about a Rampart park or road I believe he said? I am not familiar with any part of Colorado so if someone who is, is that a spot that is well hidden maybe?
Here always for Gannon, his parents an loved ones!! ❤❤❤
SM needs to do the right thing an tell LE where she put Gannon. Of course Liar McLiar pants will not. Ita all about her narcissist lying A*%
Someone needs to take her for a drive 900 miles away! I'm so angry with this mutant.

Actually, if I wasn't terrified of heights, Rampart Road would be my pick if I had a four-wheel-drive vehicle and a four hour window. Out of ignorance, I once drove down it in a rental car without 4WD, and it was one of the more excruciating drives of my life. I am very fortunate that my partner is free of my fear of heights so I do very little mountain driving.
 
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