Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #2

[stattlich1]

MOO, cow, MOO

If LE is searching local, then someone in LE thinks Gannon remains in the vicinity.

I guarantee I wouldn't permit my ex to live with my current wife and I under the same circumstances, no way. Ex would have to find lodging on her own.

I've read 'shared custody' but wonder why Gannon is with dad, it appears, the majority of the time, being enrolled in a local school. This is odd to me, considering dad is away from home at times. Why is he not enrolled in school where his BM lives, and living with her, under the 'shared custody' arrangement?

My speculation is, Gannon suffered accidental death and there is a coverup, OR, he ran away and was abducted, OR, he ran away and is deceased, OR, he is a victim of murder.....

and possibly another twist, a party yet to be named or identified, who is involved in some way.

I don't see abject fear on those kids faces in that hiking photo, I'm giving SM some leeway here.

 

[Pianoturtle]

Thank you for correcting my error.
I will edit my post.

Its a Makin Smiles Coffee shop I was looking at. It shows as a 5 min walk from his home. I assumed it was a donut shop. My error!

Great to have locals keeping this factual.

Thanks again!

Looks like it’s a small coffee roasting business that a family operates out of the home.

 

[Warwick7]

Yes, I have read about that discrepancy. . Neighbour did call 911, that is true. And LE arrived after the neighbour called. But SM said she called as well. But apparently LE didnt r4espond quickly until after the neighbour called later.

There is no mention with LE that SM called 911. And the press conference they refer to the reporting person as a he.

 

[allboys]

Me too. She is so defensive for someone who lost a child on her watch. No matter what happened - she is a mother figure to him and should be SAD and terrified for him. I would like to think she didn't actually do something to him, but her coldness makes me think she could. The fact the dad seems to have sided against her - huge, giant red flag and major insight into her character and/or evidence. You know who you are married to and he also knows his son. Something horrific happened and I don't think it's just her getting mad and he took off.....the fact the phone search about tracking seems to have totally gone off the radar....LE knows it was fake and planted. It wouldn't have been needed anyway if he truly did just take off. She would have nothing to be defensive about in interviews. She would be sad and worried. Apologetic and pleading to him. IMO. Also can't believe she is shopping during this time?? Can she not even fake sadness? Sorry I will stop now.

Do we know when the “search” for ‘can my parents track me with phone turned off’ took place? Maybe SM really wanted to know if a cell phone can be tracked while turned off, but didn’t want to leave that “search” in *her* search history. So, she hatched plan to search question as if Gannon...which then lead to how the rest of her narrative formed.

Just trying to think of why a search like this would be done, then phone ultimately left behind. I guess the most obvious answer would be simply to mislead.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Is that a selfie? Has it been stated in msm that SM volunteered the photo? Did I read somewhere her phone was confiscated by LE? idk It should have a date/time stamp. Does anyone know the date that photo appeared in msm?

I'm pretty sure I've read every MSM posted, and I have never seen that photo (the original). I can only suspect it came from the step-mom's social media page.

 

[NuttMegg]

You are correct in what you're saying...

I keep going back to......what is more important a 17 year olds career or the life/death Gannon?

Unfortunately we don't know what really happened, with the hand cuffing, but I don't think the choice has to be made between possibly wrecking a young woman's military career vs finding a missing boy. It just kind of bothers me, from the viewpoint of a 17 year old who has done it all right so far, if she was indiscriminately handcuffed in public, maybe just because her mother was mouthing off (if she was). How would it get LE any closer to finding the boy by treating a young woman that way. (Admittedly just guessing here, that she would not have caused a melee with the police to hide some keys, which SM says weren't in daughters bag anyway. So you're right, but I don't think there had to be a choice between finding the boy and humiliating a young female military cadet. Maybe she did freak out, scream, and make them cuff her in public. But I doubt it. The cuffing may have been in response to disliking the SM, which I hope it wasn't.

 

[squareandrabbet]

The 17 year old is an USAF member, think the minimum is 17 with a diploma or ged?
Guessing she has graduated and waiting to go to training? I can see having the bio mom and stepmom not getting along but what does that have to do with the 17 year old leaving also? It’s confusing.

How did it happen that the stepmom is staying in the house, did stepmom leave the house before bio mom got there or was there an altercation and stepmom left? I am surprised the dad and bio mom are staying in the house. Lots of odd things.

It makes sense to me that BM is staying at the house. She would naturally want to be there in case Gannon comes home. Maybe no one told SM to leave, but she chose to because she was upset with having this particular houseguest.

I'm assuming that the 17-year-old is both a mama's girl and does whatever Mama says ("what do you want me to say?", as the daughter myself of an authoritarian mother, sounds vaguely familiar).

Maybe the bio parents thought they couldn't speak freely with her in the house; though even then, not getting 5 minutes to pack clothes seems weird and wrong.

Either way, I'm guessing her daughter threw in with her mother because her mother rarely gives her any choice in the matter. I'm also thinking there's a bit of displaced anger on the part of LS 'cos deep down she knows if her daughter wasn't with her, her daughter would not have been in any position to be put in handcuffs.

 

[KatzEye]

Has anyone seen any reference to how long the family has lived in the current home ? If Gannon truly did run away and is not very familiar with the area, that would be a huge concern.

Gannon would definitely be familiar with his school, Grand Mountain Elementary. I've mapped this from Gannon's home along with a couple of parks (small) that caught my eye on the map. Nothing leads me to believe he is any of these places, but I do have a concern the search area isn't large enough yet. JMOO

Google Maps

 

[Warwick7]

Yes, I have read about that discrepancy. . Neighbour did call 911, that is true. And LE arrived after the neighbour called. But SM said she called as well. But apparently LE didnt r4espond quickly until after the neighbour called later.

There is no mention with LE that SM called 911. And the press conference they refer to the reporting person as a he.

Yes I remember LE describing the caller as a caller. When asked if the caller was the sm, they replied affirmatively.

Ill go listen to it again
But but a couple hours ago when I did, law enforcement refer to the reporting person as a "he." And the reporting person saw Gannon on Sunday. I do not recall them referring to SM and calling nine-one-one at all

 

[katydid23]

Do we know when the “search” for ‘can my parents track me with phone turned off’ took place? Maybe SM really wanted to know if a cell phone can be tracked while turned off, but didn’t want to leave that “search” in *her* search history. So, she hatched plan to search question as if Gannon...which then lead to how the rest of her narrative formed.

Just trying to think of why a search like this would be done, then phone ultimately left behind. I guess the most obvious answer would be simply to mislead.

And if a kid wanted to know if a cell could be tracked, why add the part about 'could my parents track my phone?' That doesn't sound like the way they would google it. I think they would just google 'can my cell be tracked?'

I think adding the words 'my parents' makes it seem like someone 'staging' the scene.

 

[Rosiebones]

I wonder why LE confiscated the white Jetta which is the daughters car but not the SM's car. Or did they take SM's car?

 

[katydid23]

Has anyone seen any reference to how long the family has lived in the current home ? If Gannon truly did run away and is not very familiar with the area, that would be a huge concern.

Gannon would definitely be familiar with his school, Grand Mountain Elementary. I've mapped this from Gannon's home along with a couple of parks (small) that caught my eye on the map. Nothing leads me to believe he is any of these places, but I do have a concern the search area isn't large enough yet. JMOO

Google Maps

He has lived there 2 years.

 

[kittythehare]

There is no mention with LE that SM called 911. And the press conference they refer to the reporting person as a he.

Ill go listen to it again
But but a couple hours ago when I did, law enforcement refer to the reporting person as a "he." And the reporting person saw Gannon on Sunday. I do not recall them referring to SM and calling nine-one-one at all

were there 2 pressers?

 

[squareandrabbet]

And if a kid wanted to know if a cell could be tracked, why add the part about 'could my parents track my phone?' That doesn't sound like the way they would google it. I think they would just google 'can my cell be tracked?'

I think adding the words 'my parents' makes it seem like someone 'staging' the scene.

Yeah, or "can people track me with my cell phone/by cell phone", though I grant it's been a while since I was an 11-year-old, and no smartphones existed then. How omnipotent do 11-year-olds think their parents are, as a general rule? Unless they think their parents have some special parental properties that amplify cell phone tracking.

 

[MsBetsy]

Great info. But fences don't stop kids.. I reckon he either crossed the main road to head hill direction or he went out a back way. It is not inconceivable that cctv's would have been unlikely to have extensive coverage.
If this had been planned for a long time, it's more likely it would have been closer to home though. what I mean is that if he had pre-prepared a place to hide and furnished it with supplies regularly for a survival, closer to home is more likely, to occlude tracks lessen chance of being spotted.

I'm not sure an eleven year old has the wherewithal to pre-prepare a place to hide and stock it with items necessary to survive for a week.

If he truly ran away I would think it would be to a friends house or to a relative.

His aunt stated that running away would be out of character for him and that he does not like to go anywhere by himself.

I would think one night alone in a place like that would have been very frightening for him, and no way would he do it alone.

Imo

 

[kittythehare]

Has anyone seen any reference to how long the family has lived in the current home ? If Gannon truly did run away and is not very familiar with the area, that would be a huge concern.

Gannon would definitely be familiar with his school, Grand Mountain Elementary. I've mapped this from Gannon's home along with a couple of parks (small) that caught my eye on the map. Nothing leads me to believe he is any of these places, but I do have a concern the search area isn't large enough yet. JMOO

Google Maps

That's fabulous, thank you!
If he had crossed a main road, walking, how far would he have had to travel to reach shelter or potential shelter or pre-prepared shelter?

 

[NuttMegg]

And if a kid wanted to know if a cell could be tracked, why add the part about 'could my parents track my phone?' That doesn't sound like the way they would google it. I think they would just google 'can my cell be tracked?'

I think adding the words 'my parents' makes it seem like someone 'staging' the scene.

An 11 year old wouldn't say "my parents", nor "track". But maybe the spirit of the text was correct and got mistranslated.

 

[LiarLiarPantsOnFire]

And if a kid wanted to know if a cell could be tracked, why add the part about 'could my parents track my phone?' That doesn't sound like the way they would google it. I think they would just google 'can my cell be tracked?'

I think adding the words 'my parents' makes it seem like someone 'staging' the scene.

My opinion is an 11 year old would always take their phone if they were running away. I had heard the search was can my parents track if my cell phone is off. Which seemed an odd search to me too for an 11 year old.

 

[Warwick7]

Unfortunately we don't know what really happened, with the hand cuffing, but I don't think the choice has to be made between possibly wrecking a young woman's military career vs finding a missing boy. It just kind of bothers me, from the viewpoint of a 17 year old who has done it all right so far, if she was indiscriminately handcuffed in public, maybe just because her mother was mouthing off (if she was). How would it get LE any closer to finding the boy by treating a young woman that way. (Admittedly just guessing here, that she would not have caused a melee with the police to hide some keys, which SM says weren't in daughters bag anyway. So you're right, but I don't think there had to be a choice between finding the boy and humiliating a young female military cadet. Maybe she did freak out, scream, and make them cuff her in public. But I doubt it. The cuffing may have been in response to disliking the SM, which I hope it wasn't.

And really we only have SM saying this happened. Body cams on LE Im sure shows everything that happened.

When Cheryl Berreth's son found blood in Kelsey's bathroom, when law enforcement arrived, both Cheryl and her son were sanctioned to leave that apartment immediately by LE. She said they were not even allowed to take their suitcases out of that apartment. I'm sure some of that was very humiliating.

It was months and months before they were ever able to retrieve their suitcases in private belongings.

She said they would spend long days at the police station being questioned.

So here they are without their personal belongings no suitcases spending days on end at the police station and they had nothing to do with her muder. If there was ever a time to act up and get upset with law enforcement that would have been the one. But Cheryl Berreth is a woman of steel and a woman of iron. I have never seen such extraordinary self control in another mother.

 

[kittythehare]

I'm not sure an eleven year old has the wherewithal to pre-prepare a place to hide and stock it with items necessary to survive for a week.

If he truly ran away I would think it would be to a friends house or to a relative.

His aunt stated that running away would be out of character for him and that he does not like to go anywhere by himself.

I would think one night alone in a place like that would have been very frightening for him, and no way would he do it alone.

Imo

I keep harping on this, I know but all 11 year olds are not a homogeneous group. They are all individuals with individual skills and talents.
It's more about his unique skills and gifts than it is about his age (sadly that information has not been made available to us)
May children undergo scout training and learn basic survival skills. In the absence of confirmation of his membership of such trainings we can look at it as a possibility reasonable, I think . He MAY have outdoor skills to enable him to survive.
Boy Scouts of America - Wikipedia