Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #2

[katydid23]

Unfortunately we don't know what really happened, with the hand cuffing, but I don't think the choice has to be made between possibly wrecking a young woman's military career vs finding a missing boy. It just kind of bothers me, from the viewpoint of a 17 year old who has done it all right so far, if she was indiscriminately handcuffed in public, maybe just because her mother was mouthing off (if she was). How would it get LE any closer to finding the boy by treating a young woman that way. (Admittedly just guessing here, that she would not have caused a melee with the police to hide some keys, which SM says weren't in daughters bag anyway. So you're right, but I don't think there had to be a choice between finding the boy and humiliating a young female military cadet. Maybe she did freak out, scream, and make them cuff her in public. But I doubt it. The cuffing may have been in response to disliking the SM, which I hope it wasn't.

If StepMom was resisting, walking away, arguing, then they are going to detain and cuff whomever else is with her, while they sort things out.

They don't know she is a young female cadet. They only know an 11 yr old is missing, and these are the last people to see him and they have a warrant they need to serve them. JMO

 

[cass523]

Death investigation underway after body found outside southeast Springs apartment

Adult male

My apologies to all. The guy reporting it put it with the hashtag and GS's name with the news channel. It was posted a few minutes before I found it. I could not find the channel with info and deleted as fast as I could. So Sorry!

 

[MsBetsy]

I understand what you are saying. But it was the mother who brought up her minor daughters military service. IMO the only reason she did that was to garner another angel of sympathy. There are 4 military bases in the Springs area, so it is heavily populated with USAF/ARMY. The only reason I can think for her to throw that out there unprompted is to try to play the whole military service angle that so many people do when they find themselves in trouble (I have personally seen this way too many times to count). If it was my minor daughter, I wouldn't be giving ANY details at all about her, especially pulling her on camera and revealing her service. IMO the SM did it for selfish reasons for herself.

MOO

How much military service could she have achieved at the age of seventeen?
Does her mom mean she has just finished basic training or something?

 

[Ontario Mom]

Kids are experts at playing one parent against another, and even moreso if they have a step parent when the original is still alive and in the picture.

I have been wondering if Gannon was chastized for something by the SM, thought something along the lines of "You're not MY MOMMY", and then called BD. Did he have contact numbers for BM? I guess the police know by now who he called, if anyone. I can just see an 11 year old stomping out of the house to go find his Dad, maybe hitch hiking with a teary face, and then being exploited by the one person he fatefully accepted a ride from. Why does this sound so logical to me? Because I used this over and over with my own broken family. Calling Dad to avoid step mother discipline. Driving a wedge between them to save myself. As did my step brothers from the opposite POV. One of them repeatedly running away at about 12, being brought back by friendly police.

Kids are experts at desiring love, affection, support and a happy home life where they are safe.
Anything that disrupts that, they just react to.
Yes of course sometimes if they know mom is going to say "no" to something, they just zip right past her and ask dad, but beyond that, it's not like they're sitting around devising schemes to create division in the family.
The way they react to that division in the family is all that they can do, because it was already there.

jmo

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Sorry...I didn't intend to convey that I am local with my post...because I am not.

Just trying to help from Canada.

Trying to familiarize myself with immediate area for now. It appears there is a donut shop a 5 minute walk from his house. I think if he stuck to any main street nearby, CCTV would have caught him. Closest library is a 7 minute drive.

His back yard fence looks too high to climb to sneak through neighbours backyards.

Where did this little guy go?

JMO

Edited to correct misinformation...its not a donut shop.
Its a place that makes coffee that I saw on the map. Makin Smiles Coffee....

bradford, how ya doing? I know you’re not local. Our paths have crossed many times for awhile now. I was offering maps out to locals that might be helpful to locals viewing that can’t physically search.

Does anyone else feel frustration? My hopes are fading. I feel my eyes begin to sting. I want his parents to hold Gannon. I want to see Gannon, little boy blue, smile at his mother.

 

[GordianKnot]

If StepMom was resisting, walking away, arguing, then they are going to detain and cuff whomever else is with her, while they sort things out.

They don't know she is a young female cadet. They only know an 11 yr old is missing, and these are the last people to see him and they have a warrant they need to serve them. JMO

Yep, I remember when they arrested the moron, PF, at the franch, they slapped the cuffs on Ma temporarily, too.

Just a way of making sure the scene remains safe for officers, and that nobody makes off with, destroys and/or contaminates potential evidence.

I'm good with that.

JMO.

 

[kittythehare]

Playing devil’s advocate, maybe she kept him home “sick” but more of a “I don’t want to fight him to go to school” or mental health day? That would explain why he was well enough to go play in the afternoon; he wasn’t actually sick.

I do find this a bit hard to believe given LS’s prior occupation as a teacher. I would think she might be more apt to have him go to school anyway unless he was truly sick. MOO

realistically all that matters now is locating him in his current location and state.
What happened when and if all returned home on Sunday evening or night?
We've seen enough to warrant reasons why he might have chosen to run away from home.
We have speculated on his disappearance being involuntary.
There's a better chance he is alive and local if he left by himself for his own reasons to a pre-prepared destination. Unlikely, I know.
The truth is that he could be anywhere by now.
We need to wait it out, I was hoping for and half expecting a break today on the big search. It does not appear to have occurred.
he left in a vehicle, or he left on foot.
That is all.

 

[Faebray]

O/T: Thank you for your service!

Thank you!

How much military service could she have achieved at the age of seventeen?
Does her mom mean she has just finished basic training or something?

IMO I think she may be in a delayed entry program, you sign the contract but haven't left for basic yet. The minimum age to join any branch of the military is 17. Then you have basic, then I think it's called Tech school in the ASAF (where they learn how to do their job. They go straight there after basic). So I would think if she had already done all that and got stationed in the Springs she would already be over the age of 18.
Or another option is JROTC.
To me, it doesn't make sense that at 17 she would be active duty and has completed all her training and stationed on Peterson/Academy.

 

[swanniee11]

As a female combat veteran (Army), you are correct. IME

Yes, Thank you for your service.

 

[Faebray]

Yes, Thank you for your service.

Thank you! You all are making me blush lmao!

 

[LietKynes]

Yes, I didn’t like from the minute I saw it. moo - online group coordinator with a local search team posted in a local newspaper. I think?

I'm thinking the photo is legit but... TS seems to be carrying the younger child in a backpack carrier and is an older photo ?
Since the youngest daughter is now 7 or 8 ?

 

[ReadySet]

Excellent post. We can't say: "of course anyone would have acted upset if they couldn't get their things." Because as you say Cheryl Berreth is one example of a family member who didn't go on camera and criticize LE. And there are many others.

And really we only have SM saying this happened. Body cams on LE Im sure shows everything that happened.

When Cheryl Berreth's son found blood in Kelsey's bathroom, when law enforcement arrived, both Cheryl and her son were sanctioned to leave that apartment immediately by LE. She said they were not even allowed to take their suitcases out of that apartment. I'm sure some of that was very humiliating.

It was months and months before they were ever able to retrieve their suitcases in private belongings.

She said they would spend long days at the police station being questioned.

So here they are without their personal belongings no suitcases spending days on end at the police station and they had nothing to do with her muder. If there was ever a time to act up and get upset with law enforcement that would have been the one. But Cheryl Berreth is a woman of steel and a woman of iron. I have never seen such extraordinary self control in another mother.

 

[GordianKnot]

Thank you!



IMO I think she may be in a delayed entry program, you sign the contract but haven't left for basic yet. The minimum age to join any branch of the military is 17. Then you have basic, then I think it's called Tech school in the ASAF (where they learn how to do their job. They go straight there after basic). So I would think if she had already done all that and got stationed in the Springs she would already be over the age of 18.
Or another option is JROTC.
To me, it doesn't make sense that at 17 she would be active duty and has completed all her training and stationed on Peterson/Academy.

BBM:

I agree with this observation completely, the fact that I have absolutely no military experience, notwithstanding.

I think this may be yet another example of SM's hyperbole and over-exaggeration of status, achievements, etc.

I'm openly speculating about whether or not SM has ever actually been licensed as a teacher.

Frankly, she doesn't sound bright enough to be a teacher.

Both her grammar and her diction in that interview are abysmal.

I see it as more likely that she applied for some type of provisional teaching certification in a state that has those types of credentials for temporary teachers.

JMO.

 

[cattlekate]

Do we even know if the text to Dad, asking to play outside Monday afternoon, even exists? And if it does, why couldn’t SA have sent it?

Also, do we know if Dad was trying to leave SA and told her to move out? What is the source of this info?

Despite my questions, all I have to say is that the hairs went up on the back of my neck watching SM’s interview. So reminiscent of Mark Redwine. Just sickening.

 

[ReadySet]

Thank you. Supports the point that it is very unusual for boys this age to run away and not be found quickly. That was my first thought when I heard of this case. I spent some time googling 10 and 12 year old boys reported as missing runaways. (didn't google 11 year old boys because I knew would mostly get this case.) I could find none that were runaways that weren't found within 48 hours. Could anyone else?

Step brother. No, about 6-8 hours before the police always tracked him down. I think he usually ended up in the vestibule or rooms behind the altar. Of the Catholic Church where he was altar boy.

 

[Tealgrove]

I'm not sure an eleven year old has the wherewithal to pre-prepare a place to hide and stock it with items necessary to survive for a week.

If he truly ran away I would think it would be to a friends house or to a relative.

His aunt stated that running away would be out of character for him and that he does not like to go anywhere by himself.

I would think one night alone in a place like that would have been very frightening for him, and no way would he do it alone.

Imo

I don't believe he ran away.

Even if his home life was a problem, he did have a relationship with his bio mom. He spent time with her. She had joint custody. He didn't need to run away! He could talk to his mom. He probably could have gone there. If he wanted to run away and get to her I could understand but, just running away to nothing makes no sense whatsoever. Gannon had options if he needed to run away or, WANTED to run away.

I do not believe the narrative that is being fed to us at this time. It is nonsensical.

My guess is that there is a ton of stuff going on behind the scenes. LE is actually pretty quiet. They are not tipping their hand but I think this is going to go down the way many of us anticipate.

Unfortunately, I don't foresee a happy ending.

MOO

 

[swanniee11]

This is seriously making me sick. I woke up at 3:30am to check on this. I would love nothing more then to hear he is safe. UGH!

 

[imstilla.grandma]

BBM:

I agree with this observation completely, the fact that I have absolutely no military experience, notwithstanding.

I think this may be yet another example of SM's hyperbole and over-exaggeration of status, achievements, etc.

I'm genuinely questioning whether or not SM has ever actually been licensed as a teacher.

Frankly, she doesn't sound bright enough to be a teacher.

Both her grammar and her diction in that interview are abysmal.

I see it as more likely that she applied for some type of provisional teaching certification in a state that has those types of credentials for temporary teachers.

JMO.

Glorified babysitter.

 

[Faebray]

BBM:

I agree with this observation completely, the fact that I have absolutely no military experience, notwithstanding.

I think this may be yet another example of SM's hyperbole and over-exaggeration of status, achievements, etc.

I'm genuinely questioning whether or not SM has ever actually been licensed as a teacher.

Frankly, she doesn't sound bright enough to be a teacher.

Both her grammar and her diction in that interview are abysmal.

I see it as more likely that she applied for some type of provisional teaching certification in a state that has those types of credentials for temporary teachers.

JMO.

This is exactly what I think she did too. I don't think she thought anybody would question it.
So, she might have lost her teaching cert in her home state for reason she wasn't completely honest about in the interview. MOO

 

[kittythehare]

I don't believe he ran away.

Even if his home life was a problem, he did have a relationship with his bio mom. He spent time with her. She had joint custody. He didn't need to run away! He could talk to his mom. He probably could have gone there. If he wanted to run away and get to her I could understand but, just running away to nothing makes no sense whatsoever. Gannon had options if he needed to run away or, WANTED to run away.

I do not believe the narrative that is being fed to us at this time. It is nonsensical.

My guess is that there is a ton of stuff going on behind the scenes. LE is actually pretty quiet. They are not tipping their hand but I think this is going to go down the way many of us anticipate.

Unfortunately, I don't foresee a happy ending.

MOO

Well the current status is a search campaign and actual searching. So, I reckon somebody must believe it is possible that he is alive and searchable if still alive.
I don't think we're being fed a narrative, they could not justify the cost of a search of this extent if no hope existed that he didn't run away from home.
It's a pretty balanced equation for that reason.
But, he has not been found.
It is desperately distressing.