Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #20

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Yup, I was raised by a narcissist. I don’t use the word lightly. For years I didn’t know or realize that she was a narcissist.

Now she’s old and has turned everyone who loves her away. She’s alone now and wonders why but she blew up the family for her own selfish reasons while telling everyone she was right to do what she was doing, without any thought to the consequences. She hurt a lot of people and even though you tell her, she just don’t get it.

I don’t need an official diagnosis of this disorder, I’ve lived it for almost 70+years.

TS won’t admit she’s wrong about anything. I’m sure nothing that ever happened in her life is her fault. Including the disappearance of Gannon. He disappeared on her watch, yet according to her, when he disappeared, she was being a good, fun loving stepmom and allowed him to go play at a friends house and that’s the last time she saw him. IME and O

@Seajay Sounds like you & I share a similar up-bringing. I'm sorry because I know how difficult & damaging it is. IME, the narcissist playing the victim/martyr is key to them validating their actions, and the people in their life are collateral damage. Again, I'm sorry.
 
  • #162
Oddly enough, this post sounds like it is describing in detail someone I know personally. When she first had her children I thought they would end up in a Munchausen Syndrome situation or worse. This is exactly to a the finest detail how she acts with her son and daughter.

Both of the kids in the case I mentioned are now adults and the little boy (who was diagnosed with about 20 different things before he escaped the family home) is now doing okay. His list of diagnoses was "practically anything ever mentioned as afflicting children in mass media, particularly women's magazines." The mom ended up homeless off and on, was taken in by family members far more caring and kind than most people's family members, frankly. She isn't doing well, but she still has her little group of church people who give her money, rides, all kinds of help. She remarried, adopted a child (I've interviewed him as well) and that marriage eventually fell apart (she managed to turn the adopted son against his father).

The woman I'm describing never held a full time job for very long and at this point in time, hasn't worked in more than 30 years. Her parents kept enabling her, but they died recently and the church people are helping to fill the gap of their care and financial support.
 
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I could only assume they continue to go back to the home because that's where their investigation is leading them. They've said in the past their investigation and search continues to run parallel, so wherever their investigation leads them is where they'll go. Hope that helps!

ETA: i’m Not sure what twitter message is being referenced but I did find this one.
 
  • #164
With prescriptions in the house for self or others maybe even a pet, it is possible to grab the bottle from a shelf or counter and give the wrong meds or pretend this happened by "accident". There are also meds that have side effects if they are given with other meds and that could be an "accident". Trying to think of some moves a person can do in a sneaky way.
 
  • #165
Did the Stepmom report him as a runaway or did the police report him as a runaway? I thought the Stepmom only reported him as a missing child that he went to a friend's and disappeared. I never heard her mention that he ran away I thought that was just what the police had to report because of his age. Then three days later they reported that he was missing/ endangered. So I'm not sure if she tried to stage a runaway scene. Her initial statement was that he went to a friend's and didn't come back. I don't think she was planning on anything on 105 to be found out about. She didn't even have time to do anything except for think fast. Something happened in that truck that day. Either he was whining and crying saying he was going to tell on her and she said get the hell out of the car and told him to walk went to the Petco and was waiting on him to arrive that's why she kept looking out the window at Petco to see if he was coming and he didn't cuz something else happened to him, or she ended his life dumped him somewhere and they haven't found him yet. Hopefully they searched drainage ditches under driveways, sewers, there's even mines at Perry Park. LE look like they are on to something. Let's just hope we hear about an arrest soon or they find him.

I would like to know this too.
IMO, the worst mistake *someone* made was typing the runaway stuff into the search engine. Because that really took the focus off of someone taking him, rather than him running away. Who is going to believe that he stepped out of that yard to run away and a predator just happened to be there waiting?
 
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I would like to know this too.
IMO, the worst mistake *someone* made was typing the runaway stuff into the search engine. Because that really took the focus off of someone taking him, rather than him running away. Who is going to believe that he stepped out of that yard to run away and a predator just happened to be there waiting?

News5 asked about Gannon being reported originally as a runaway rather than a missing person, and the Sheriff's Office said they have to work off of what the person calling 911 tells them in that moment.
 
  • #167
News5 asked about Gannon being reported originally as a runaway rather than a missing person, and the Sheriff's Office said they have to work off of what the person calling 911 tells them in that moment.

That does not make sense to me. LE should not call a missing child a runaway just because an adult says so...status should have been simply “missing” until investigated...status should not be up to the caller imo.
 
  • #168
Did the Stepmom report him as a runaway or did the police report him as a runaway? I thought the Stepmom only reported him as a missing child that he went to a friend's and disappeared. I never heard her mention that he ran away I thought that was just what the police had to report because of his age. Then three days later they reported that he was missing/ endangered. So I'm not sure if she tried to stage a runaway scene. Her initial statement was that he went to a friend's and didn't come back. I don't think she was planning on anything on 105 to be found out about. She didn't even have time to do anything except for think fast. Something happened in that truck that day. Either he was whining and crying saying he was going to tell on her and she said get the hell out of the car and told him to walk went to the Petco and was waiting on him to arrive that's why she kept looking out the window at Petco to see if he was coming and he didn't cuz something else happened to him, or she ended his life dumped him somewhere and they haven't found him yet. Hopefully they searched drainage ditches under driveways, sewers, there's even mines at Perry Park. LE look like they are on to something. Let's just hope we hear about an arrest soon or they find him.
IIRC, the SM originally indicated Gannon as a runaway. He was classified as missing first and then as an endangered child after some investigation by LE and SM's ever changing stories.

MOO
 
  • #169
To me, the "trigger" to set LS off into a rage would be anytime GS mentioned his bio mom. LS probably did put a lot into caring for her step kids... But to most children, there is never anyone better than their bio parents, no matter how hard the step parent tries. So, whenever he talked lovingly about his bio mom, or possibly stated "you're not my mom" it upset her. And throw in jealousy too ... No better way to hurt someone than to hurt their child.

I personally have a son, who has hasn't seen or talked to his bio dad in over a year....My child glows with love when he mentions his bio dad. His bio dad is worthless, but my child thinks he is a super hero....I would never break his heart and tell him otherwise. My husband is an amazing step dad, but no matter how many bedtime stories he reads, how many times he pitches a baseball....he will never be the "super hero" his bio dad is.

One day when your son is older that is exactly what your husband will be,when your son looks back at his childhood and who was there for the important stuff,who features in those memories will paint a picture for him and he will know who the super hero is and I bet he will love your husband all the more for it:)
 
  • #170
Nothing to add other than anytime I see Sonic on TV or being spoken about, Gannon now comes to mind.
 
  • #171
We know Gannon had friends (Landen mentions it in her TV interview, various comments from neighborhood kids/schoolmates on TV, and at least 1 other source that TOS prevents me from mentioning.) I believe that TS verbally & physically abused him over time as well as over the weekend before he was disappeared. I wonder what he said to his friends about his stepmom and her treatment of him (ie. she always yells at me, she's so mean, she's a ____, she did this/that to me, etc) and I'm SURE at least one friend came over to that house to play with Gannon, what did he/they see in TS's treatment of him? Kids tend to be more open & honest with other kids than adults, IME. Did any of them ever hear anything in the background while they were online or talking to Gannon on his cell?
 
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Did the Stepmom report him as a runaway or did the police report him as a runaway? I thought the Stepmom only reported him as a missing child that he went to a friend's and disappeared. I never heard her mention that he ran away I thought that was just what the police had to report because of his age. Then three days later they reported that he was missing/ endangered. So I'm not sure if she tried to stage a runaway scene. Her initial statement was that he went to a friend's and didn't come back. I don't think she was planning on anything on 105 to be found out about. She didn't even have time to do anything except for think fast. Something happened in that truck that day. Either he was whining and crying saying he was going to tell on her and she said get the hell out of the car and told him to walk went to the Petco and was waiting on him to arrive that's why she kept looking out the window at Petco to see if he was coming and he didn't cuz something else happened to him, or she ended his life dumped him somewhere and they haven't found him yet. Hopefully they searched drainage ditches under driveways, sewers, there's even mines at Perry Park. LE look like they are on to something. Let's just hope we hear about an arrest soon or they find him.
Please see thread 16, post 22. Lots of good info there and there is an answer to this.
 
  • #173
True. A still married couple I know includes a narcissist dad. The wife said her husband does not like the son “to call mom” either. He threatened to throw away the sons phone/watch if he called his mom.
Poor kid, that's emotional warfare IMO. :(
 
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That does not make sense to me. LE should not call a missing child a runaway just because an adult says so...status should have been simply “missing” until investigated...status should not be up to the caller imo.

There are 2000 missing children reported daily. Are you willing to boost your own taxes to pay for LE to investigate each and everyone, in order to make a more specific notice to the public?

"Missing" will become the default, then someone has to be sent to the residence to investigate. This means that investigators have to be available (and paid) around the clock. Here in fairly well-off California, that's not even a remote possibility. If the task is given to CPS, it will be a two month wait, as it's a non-emergency.
 
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That does not make sense to me. LE should not call a missing child a runaway just because an adult says so...status should have been simply “missing” until investigated...status should not be up to the caller imo.

Just wow!! "LE should not call a missing child a runaway just because an adult says so" Note the REPORTING ADULT, (who would usually have the child's best interest.) Boy LE can't win for losing. Agree to Disagree.
 
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Excellent book! I've read it twice and it was really an eye-opener. A must-read for anyone but especially if you have children.
Totally agree....bought a copy several years ago and to this day I pick it up and reread it.
 
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As to the "chosen victim" model of family life, it's fairly common. There's a well known pattern involving narcissistic parents, wherein one child is the "Golden Child" and like, the Narcissist, can do no wrong. Another child is chosen as the "Scapegoat." This dynamic happens in families that don't contain a narcissist, but it's very common - diagnostic, really - in narcissism.

There are some clues in this case. I'm not going to quote SM but I will note that the picture trail in this case has bothered me. I'll describe a different case (that is very similar) so that I'm not breaking rules.

In the case of a woman with Narcissistic/Histrionic diagnosis (both a field diagnosis and a clinical diagnosis from a psychiatrist), she had a FB in which you could barely tell that one of her children (the boy) existed. The daughter's birthday parties and other events were displayed on FB almost daily. Tons of selfies with the daughter. Even in travel pictures, one had to wonder where the boy was. The pictures were taken by both parents, but rarely contained any with the boy in them. Boy's birthday pictures were never posted. Since I got to interview this woman, I asked to look at family videos. Huge, extravagant birthday parties for Daughter, some years, no birthday party at all for Son, and when it occurred, no videos, we had to hunt for a couple of photos. While we were doing this, the woman showed no awareness of the issue. She just didn't see it.

The Son did get taken to the doctor and she sought psychiatric treatment for him when he was only 6. She seemed to think there was something wrong with him, although she couldn't articulate it. The father was frequently gone (military) and eventually left altogether, but before that occurred he revealed that the Son was diagnosed with depression at age 6.

The Daughter was rarely punished, the Son was punished frequently, often with psychological pain rather than physical pain.

This case has been published in academic literature, pretty much as I just outlined, so I'm not breaking any professional rules. There were some details about the case (non-criminal) that caused the treating psychiatrist to wish to publish some of his findings. There was, for example, a pretend abduction (of the Mom).

Anyway, there are things about this case that make me think of that case.
Excellent post *from a former scapegoat*
 
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I would like to know this too.
IMO, the worst mistake *someone* made was typing the runaway stuff into the search engine. Because that really took the focus off of someone taking him, rather than him running away. Who is going to believe that he stepped out of that yard to run away and a predator just happened to be there waiting?

Well, I don't believe it, but I think someone, or perhaps more than one someone, have in fact tried to argue this.
 
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I thought maybe the house was so new that the Stauch's might be the first residents. But not sure...

I know it's a rental and my understanding is you're right that they're the first residents but I'm not 100% sure. LE could easily find that out.
 
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