Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #21

[razzledazzle]

Just like the Joyce Aland whose home security cameras caught Tammy & Sidney Moorer's truck driving down to Peach Tree Landing. She was great on the witness stand “I’m sorry I don’t believe in coincidences sir,”.

RD will also be a great witness at trial!!

THIS^^^^ 1000 times!

 

[Ontario Mom]

IF TS had been wearing a working Apple watch on that fateful day which I don't believe to be truthful!
The data obtained from it by LE would have surely led them to Gannon by now, wouldn't it.??

No, I don't believe it would, yet.
First, we don't know if they requested the data, or when they requested it, or how long it took them to go over it all (or if they have yet).
There is SO much evidence already in this case, even if we the public don't realize it.
Think, cell data (which includes tower pings, texts, emails, photos, videos, sm site logins, private messages, deleted data that needed to be recovered),
neighborhood door cam vids, surv. vids, gps data, traffic cam data, physical evidence collected inside the house, the step-daughter's car, her car, the truck, banking info, retail business videos, and... that's just the stuff I can think of off the top of my head.
Without exception, in every case I've ever followed that also went to trial, the amount of evidence presented in court always blows me away, not only by what IS included that I never even thought of, but what ISN'T included that I thought would be.
The prosecution's opening statement almost always reveals details that never made it to the public, and hints at the evidence uncovered that is going to prove the case.

Then you have to wonder, how many people are actually working this case, and this case alone, all day long?
We don't even really know how many investigators and forensic specialists are working this case or how backlogged any of them are.
When you (and I don't mean you personally, just a general "you") stop and think about how much evidence has to be processed, and how carefully it all has to be processed, and then all the searches and leads and tips... and all the man hours that takes... that's a LOT of work, and it takes time.
Just something to think about.

 

[ChuckMaureen]

Also: this is why I don't have an Apple watch.

Your cell phone (if you carry one) follows your every move....

 

[Feistyomi]

Cant help myself, I guess following these threads, makes me feel I am doing something to help, but as I drive into town this afternoon to attend my 11 yr old grandson’s 10 minute honor roll assembly, I found myself stopped at the GREEN light waiting for it to change, so everyone , plz be careful, it is easy to get emotionally torn up, and sucked into these cases...it is very difficult to understand someone like LS, even on normal or average days, their behavior boggles the mind...chaos is a good word, I spent decades trying to figure my baby sister out, from her toddler temper tantrums, thru her childish, selfish behavior as an adult...I think I am going to focus more on what a really abnormal personality would do, if they crossed the line and needed to disappear a person...

 

[Ontario Mom]

RD has not said or posted anything new on SM or MSM to endanger the investigation.

The very little that was posted cannot be discussed here in open forum.

Speculation regarding RD isn’t helping anything. He has carried himself quite well.

I am forever grateful to Nichole Atkinson, Shanaan’s bff, for everything she said and did in a very public way, even with the ongoing investigation and the time, and feel it brought the hammer down on CW very swiftly. Same goes for her neighbor who released the footage from his security cam and mentioned his thoughts on what was seen and how CW acted.

Without RD, who knows how much LS could have potentially gotten away with, whereas now she’s firmly nailed to the wall.

In my opinion, he has shown incredible restraint. I believe there is MUCH more he could’ve said and done and shown, and he has not done so.

moo

Thank you for saying that.

 

[COSCitizen]

In a desperate attempt to do something useful, I was folding laundry today. And I thought of the following.

I've tried to convey how populated, and well-traveled, the Black Forest area is, even though it might not look it at first glance. This is a town with a large military presence, and we have at least one high-value target: the Air Force Academy. I remember how after the 9/11 attacks I was giving cars parked along the side of the road a second glance. Are they in trouble? Are they planning to cause trouble? Now, with cell phones so pervasive, it is reasonable to assume they pulled off the road to make a call or check Google maps. But if people pull onto private land or into a private driveway or get out of their car and do something that isn't real obvious, locals are going to notice. And it's quite likely that a local did notice something and took a quick photo, but it hasn't been publicized.

 

[kittythehare]

RD has not said or posted anything new on SM or MSM to endanger the investigation.

The very little that was posted cannot be discussed here in open forum.

Speculation regarding RD isn’t helping anything. He has carried himself quite well.

I am forever grateful to Nichole Atkinson, Shanaan’s bff, for everything she said and did in a very public way, even with the ongoing investigation and the time, and feel it brought the hammer down on CW very swiftly. Same goes for her neighbor who released the footage from his security cam and mentioned his thoughts on what was seen and how CW acted.

Without RD, who knows how much LS could have potentially gotten away with, whereas now she’s firmly nailed to the wall.

In my opinion, he has shown incredible restraint. I believe there is MUCH more he could’ve said and done and shown, and he has not done so.

moo

I agree 100 percent.
It is HIS property.
He has a right to do with it as he pleases.

If he decides to run the entire 24/7 week on a U-tube channel and every TV station in the world, it is his right and his right alone.

It's only a problem if the footage has interference.
Nothing suggests it has.
He is not LE.
He is not responsible for the running of this case or it's possible prosecution.

 

[Boxer]

In a desperate attempt to do something useful, I was folding laundry today. And I thought of the following.

I've tried to convey how populated, and well-traveled, the Black Forest area is, even though it might not look it at first glance. This is a town with a large military presence, and we have at least one high-value target: the Air Force Academy. I remember how after the 9/11 attacks I was giving cars parked along the side of the road a second glance. Are they in trouble? Are they planning to cause trouble? Now, with cell phones so pervasive, it is reasonable to assume they pulled off the road to make a call or check Google maps. But if people pull onto private land or into a private driveway or get out of their car and do something that isn't real obvious, locals are going to notice. And it's quite likely that a local did notice something and took a quick photo, but it hasn't been publicized.

This is my experiemce of rural or open spaces. There is someone out there wondering why you are pulled off or even just why you are going along a solitary road which only has one or two destinations.
Who are they visiting? Are they realtors, meth heads, lost, thieves, vandals or etc.

 

[Pianoturtle]

No, I don't believe it would, yet.
First, we don't know if they requested the data, or when they requested it, or how long it took them to go over it all (or if they have yet).
There is SO much evidence already in this case, even if we the public don't realize it.
Think, cell data (which includes tower pings, texts, emails, photos, videos, sm site logins, private messages, deleted data that needed to be recovered),
neighborhood door cam vids, surv. vids, gps data, traffic cam data, physical evidence collected inside the house, the step-daughter's car, her car, the truck, banking info, retail business videos, and... that's just the stuff I can think of off the top of my head.
Without exception, in every case I've ever followed that also went to trial, the amount of evidence presented in court always blows me away, not only by what IS included that I never even thought of, but what ISN'T included that I thought would be.
The prosecution's opening statement almost always reveals details that never made it to the public, and hints at the evidence uncovered that is going to prove the case.

Then you have to wonder, how many people are actually working this case, and this case alone, all day long?
We don't even really know how many investigators and forensic specialists are working this case or how backlogged any of them are.
When you (and I don't mean you personally, just a general "you") stop and think about how much evidence has to be processed, and how carefully it all has to be processed, and then all the searches and leads and tips... and all the man hours that takes... that's a LOT of work, and it takes time.
Just something to think about.

I have never followed a case with even a fraction of the intensity I’ve followed this one. I lived in San Diego when Danielle Van Dam was kidnapped, and David Westerfield was tried. I didn’t follow it too closely, just the little bits on the radio while I was driving around. But so little was revealed prior to his arrest and trial that I was shocked they even knew to look at him let alone get a conviction. I never even thought until now that there must’ve been so much more that was revealed in the trial.

 

[crhedBngr]

This is my experiemce of rural or open spaces. There is someone out there wondering why you are pulled off or even just why you are going along a solitary road which only has one or two destinations.
Who are they visiting? Are they realtors, meth heads, lost, thieves, vandals or etc.

Growing up in a rural area, I agree with this.

JMVHO.

 

[helpfulcharlie]

Do we have a map showing all known search areas along with suspected/implied travel routes? I would love to see those together. I suspect that result is going to closely mimic the accuracy of consumer device GPS data.

 

[Pianoturtle]

I agree 100 percent.
It is HIS property.
He has a right to do with it as he pleases.

If he decides to run the entire 24/7 week on a U-tube channel and every TV station in the world, it is his right and his right alone.

It's only a problem if the footage has interference.
Nothing suggests it has.
He is not LE.
He is not responsible for the running of this case or it's possible prosecution.

Yes. And I feel like it was leaked on purpose to get the word out that she was in a red truck that day, not a black SUV. It was a subtle way of calling her a POI instead coming out and saying it.
MOO

 

[Happygolucky123]

I don't do selfies (I am really weirded out by photos of myself). I have taken pictures and a video of my youngest daughter when she was admitted to the hospital with meningitis. I was so afraid we would lose her. I took pics for when I went home to rest and her Dad stayed with her so I could rest. The video was also so I felt closer to her. I am a very broody Mom and would have refused to sleep if I stayed all day and night there. Thankfully she recovered with just a few side effects. I don't know anyone in my circle of friends who chronicles each car ride with selfies. That just seems weird to me. But then this person is VERY much about herself.

I can appreciate that. What is interesting is that you took photos as you were afraid you’d lose her and it would be the last photo to have of her. It sounds like T did the same...

I’m glad your daughter recovered. Meningitis is scary. My husband had it as well and took almost a full year before he could carry our kids again... his muscles were so weak, and would constantly give out.

 

[helpfulcharlie]

On a side note, I've been reading this paper: "Children Killed by Genetic Parents Versus Stepparents." Too much info to summarize here, but some of you may find it interesting (PDF). http://people.uncw.edu/bruce/hon 210/pdfs/infanticide.pdf

 

[kittythehare]

Yes. And I feel like it was leaked on purpose to get the word out that she was in a red truck that day, not a black SUV. It was a subtle way of calling her a POI instead coming out and saying it.
MOO

I'm not sure LE would do that but then again... a full week had passed and every searcher was off looking for a local child that had walked away from home and all the possibilities that entailed.
A drive away was a huge change of direction.
It could well be.

When were they planning on telling everybody, like?
300 volunteer searchers had been vetted by LE at that stage... for a local fingertip search which was cancelled at very short notice. 00's of hours of LE time spent on the vetting... 00's spent on local walk away search possibilities..
Of course that vehicle was gonna be hugely relevant to any effective search for the child.

 

[perception≠reality]

This is my experiemce of rural or open spaces. There is someone out there wondering why you are pulled off or even just why you are going along a solitary road which only has one or two destinations.
Who are they visiting? Are they realtors, meth heads, lost, thieves, vandals or etc.

In general, I don’t have the same naive level of trust with people I had in my youth. I am always suspicious of strange cars, people, etc...

Cases like this break your heart in a whole new way, and show you it’s not always the strangers we have to watch out for-sometimes the monster you need to watch for is right there in your very own home.
Moo

 

[Bravo]

I can appreciate that. What is interesting is that you took photos as you were afraid you’d lose her and it would be the last photo to have of her. It sounds like T did the same...

I’m glad your daughter recovered. Meningitis is scary. My husband had it as well and took almost a full year before he could carry our kids again... his muscles were so weak, and would constantly give out.

"If" the selfie she speaks to even exists. So glad to hear your husband recovered. Scary for sure.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Do we have a map showing all known search areas along with suspected/implied travel routes? I would love to see those together. I suspect that result is going to closely mimic the accuracy of consumer device GPS data.

I believe @Knox might have been putting one together?
Also, I suspect you may be spot on.

 

[kittythehare]

Do we have a map showing all known search areas along with suspected/implied travel routes? I would love to see those together. I suspect that result is going to closely mimic the accuracy of consumer device GPS data.

We have several but I don't know how to load them.
I'd really appreciate another look, please if anybody has time and skill?

 

[B in TN]

Gannon Stauch poses with stepmother Letecia in last known photo of missing Colorado boy


So I'm in health care...whats that plastic looking tubing around Gannon's hand? Is the RN on here? any other health care peeps