Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #23

[Murphy1950]

Regardless of if she did put close to a thousand miles on that car, I do think it’s a very real possibility that she did move the body. She needed that rental car for a reason, and it wasn’t an innocent one.
Gannon’s DNA has absolutely no business being there, and cadaver dogs should have no interest in that car. Body or not, this woman is going down.

IMO...it wouldn't have to be DNA...also speaks to hair or fibers. Anything that relates to Gannon.

 

[Uninvited Guest]

No it happened before that cctv became released.
I'm not sure whether she was really kicked out or merely said she was for drama. Sounded like she was angry with AS in that TV interview.
Impossible to fathom the dynamics of their relationship but she was responsible for taking care of Gannon and he disappeared under her watch. That alone may well have been enough for an argument.
I'm not even gonna go there in my thoughts...
#FindGannon.

Not sure either, but I would guess that the release of the video and actual discovery of the video did not occur on the same day, I assume days prior it was discovered by the neighbor before it was released.

 

[Bravo]

Update: I have been up and down this here internet and can’t find any credible LE or MSM mention of the RENTAL car being taken into evidence/impounded by police. If anyone can help an old guy out, hit me up.

IMO you cant find it as LE has not told us. As I said prior I heard about the rental when a reporter asked about it during a presser early in. LE didn't bite and gave their usual pat answer. I considered it fair game as allowed here but when I posted what I had heard there really was nowhere to go with it.

 

[DocStetson]

The rental car was picked up at DIA? Was it also returned to DIA?

In the Crime Online article, TS tells the reporter (Leigh) that she left her car at the airport when she rented the car and then came back to pick up her car when she dropped off the rental. So it is implied by TS that it is the same location. But this info and this receipt came from TS so keep that in mind just in case.

 

[Hach]

I do remember, I have SS but it was on SM, therefore we cannot discuss here.

What is SS & SM?

 

[NCWatcher]

Some timeline:


Jan 28, Tuesday.

6:50 am approximate. TS leaves home to drive 100 miles north to DIA.
8:50 am TS rents a small Kia from Budget at DIA. She picks up Albert, who is flying in from Oklahoma. It is unclear exactly when his flight landed. TS drives AS, in the KIA, to CS to search "door to door" for Gannon.LE reports that officers and detectives are searching for Gannon "in between" other calls for service.
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>>>Snipped and BBM<<<

I think the receipt we saw originally showed the car was rented at CS Airport but later that was blanked out. Of course TS supplied the receipt.

 

[DocStetson]

What is SS & SM?

Screenshots.

SM is usually social media although some have been using it for stepmom.

 

[Fireflize]

The rental car was picked up at DIA? Was it also returned to DIA?

I think it was Colorado Springs airport

 

[Hach]

Screenshots.

SM is usually social media although some have been using it for stepmom.

Thanks!

I should know this lingo, I'm only 36 lol

 

[Coloradomomandgrandma]

In the Crime Online article, TS tells the reporter (Leigh) that she left her car at the airport when she rented the car and then came back to pick up her car when she dropped off the rental. So it is implied by TS that it is the same location. But this info and this receipt came from TS so keep that in mind just in case.

Thanks Doc! For some reason I thought she rented and dropped off at the Colorado Springs airport. If it was in fact DIA, that's a long way from their house and would explain at least 200 of the miles if the mileage was correct. MOO

 

[kittythehare]

Regarding the cars, I’d guess this has been discussed extensively already, so forgive me for very likely rehashing an old and exhausted topic, but I recall when SM mentioned Gannon cutting his foot in the garage, sitting on the edge of the car for her to bandage his foot, then Gannon making multiple trips to gate and back, many thought this could potentially be an effort to “presplain” blood evidence in/on one of the cars, in the garage, and along the path from garage to gate. In light of the recent rental car discussion, I’m wondering if perhaps some of the unusual car happenings could have been due being temporarily down one vehicle for three drivers. For instance, if one car needed to be cleaned or serviced in some way due to containing evidence of an incident one wished to conceal that involved blood, could that result in family members swapping remaining cars around and then renting an additional vehicle in anticipation of the return of the third driver? Were all vehicles being driven during that time? Apologies if this has long ago been asked and answered.

Police arrived sometime after 10pm on the night she reported him missing.
When tey arrived they removed a white vW from garage, daughter's car.
we do not know where AS truck was parked at that point.
We do not have an account of her movements for the remainder of that night.
First thing next morning she decides to rent a car and she drives AS truck to airport and leaves it there.
Again, truck has been removed from sight.
She uses the craziest of excuses to hire a rental though as other posters have mentioned she states she has informed LE from the first day about an abduction possibility.
so she drives AS home. In the rental.
That brings 3 cars to the home, if the smashed car is not theirs.

Perhaps she just HAD to get it away.
Because it contained incriminating evidence.
I do not know when LE took that vehicle though I presume they did.
I cannot imagine what was in the vehicle that needed to be hidden from both AS and LE..
Something, maybe, just speculating from ashes of bones here.

what we don't know is when and how she managed to make it 'clean' again or even if she did...
JMO imo moo etc

 

[Kellsestxx]

If anything LS says is true or at least the receipt , then the rental car was picked up while AS was getting picked up at the airport , you'd think he'd be with her looking for GS and know what it was used for , and not that she had GS dead inside ? I wonder if AS went along with the rental car idea bc he thought GS was afraid of getting in trouble by him at first. The babysitter said that he would do the discipline. I don't understand why he would have gone along with the rental car if not.

 

[DocStetson]

Thanks Doc! For some reason I thought she rented and dropped off at the Colorado Springs airport. If it was in fact DIA, that's a long way from their house and would explain at least 200 of the miles if the mileage was correct. MOO

Sorry, I was just confirming it was likely picked up and dropped off at the same location. But by airport, I meant Colorado Springs. When they first released the receipt, the pickup location was visible and it said the Colorado Speings airport, I believe.

 

[DocStetson]

If anything LS says is true or at least the receipt , then the rental car was picked up while AS was getting picked up at the airport , you'd think he'd be with her looking for GS and know what it was used for , and not that she had GS dead inside ? I wonder if AS went along with the rental car idea bc he thought GS was afraid of getting in trouble by him at first. The babysitter said that he would do the discipline. I don't understand why he would have gone along with the rental car if not.

If you go by what TS has said on record, I believe she claims she picked the car up a couple hours BEFORE AS’ flight arrived.

 

[lilithblue]

I'm not sure why the rental car being impounded is such a big topic.

I'm pretty sure she would not have even brought it up if LE didn't know about the car to begin with. And with all the LE agencies involved, surely they would have thought to impound the car. We're not going to find definitive evidence of that from either MSM or LE, but I think we can safely say it was.

As to whether the 955 miles is accurate... either the mistaken entry or that she drove all those miles are both possible.

I find it more realistic that it was a mistaken entry than she managed to pick her husband up, drop him off somewhere, likely had to talk to LE at some point, load up a dead body from somewhere, then spend 15+ hours of pure driving just to hide him somewhere else further away.

Is it possible? Yes. Is it likely? To me, not. That's not to say anyone else's theory is wrong. I think we need to look at all possibilities, but I also am fairly confident LE already knows the answer to most of our questions.

 

[Fireflize]

Not sure either, but I would guess that the release of the video and actual discovery of the video did not occur on the same day, I assume days prior it was discovered by the neighbor before it was released.

The community support was there from the start. Expect all neighbors who had cameras checked them soon, as that's what we do these days. I think what may have prevented RD from finding his important recording immediately was that Gannon was reported last seen late in the afternoon. LE was surely aware of what was seen and not seen on community cameras early on.

 

[NCWatcher]

Not sure either, but I would guess that the release of the video and actual discovery of the video did not occur on the same day, I assume days prior it was discovered by the neighbor before it was released.

BBM
I don't think we found out about the video the moment it was discovered. But why would RD say he found it Sat when he backtracked to earlier parts of the day than he had looked at earlier in the week? If he really found it many many days earlier? Are we now supposing the release of the video was orchestrated by LE (who said they didn't want it released) and further LE asked RD to say he found it Sat when that wasn't true?
Seems complicated.
JMO

 

[10ofRods]

and that's why she rented a car. Because she thought they would be checking the VW to see where she went. I'll bet that car (VW) stayed parked at the hotel or just her daughter drove it.
Come to think of it, where was her daughter while TS was putting all those miles on the rental car? Was she with her? Was she still living at the home? Did she take time off work? I don't suspect her as having anything to do with Gannon's missing, but maybe unknowingly thrown in the game.

The car rental (of the Kia) happened on the very next day after Gannon went missing. TS had not yet left the house.

We are not allowed to sleuth the daughter, except insofar as she's "in the game" via TS's statements.

Well after looking more it appears gps comes standard in a 2019 Kia Rio so I don't see how T wouldn't know it wasn't gonna be a viable option if she was trying to do something untraced in it. I have no idea about how it all works. We always have had older models of vehicles so now I feel a bit silly thinking it would even be a possibility such a new car wouldn't be obviously traceable. I am clueless in how car tracking works with the systems. So if it was obvious the car could be tracked, did she rent it as a diversion? Drive everywhere, but where he really is to tie up time and resources away from GS? She pisses me off.

Whatever she thought, if Gannon was ever in that vehicle, the DNA will reveal it. Or has revealed it. Personally, I think we'd be seeing LE behave differently if Gannon's DNA was found in the car.

She could have "driven everywhere" in her own car, except for that expensive mileage, right? So she spent over $200 to rent a car. AS must have found it suspicious.

Car tracking or not, there should be forensic evidence in that rental car.

I wonder what day TS's own car was impounded. Or the red truck. MSM reports seeing only one car at the house on Tuesday night.

 

[K9Enzo]

Right now, I personally don’t see a scenario where she came home with his body, then called LE to report him missing a few hours later, then had the dilemma of disposing of his body with LE swarming. Or that she left his body “somewhere” then went back to move it the next day. You would also be dealing with a body after 15 + hours (estimated). That’s a whole other stomach turning challenge.

I’m most intrigued by her statement that she left her phone at home on 27 Jan during her shopping trip with an ill Gannon. Then admitting to taking backroads and getting lost. For me this is the crucial window of where was Gannon & what state was he in?

The rental car is very interesting. I could see it being used to dispose of evidence the next day, like literally tossing items out the window. OR maybe even driving past where she last seen him & left his body. This is not uncommon (IMO).

I also think she needed to sell the runaway story and could have absolutely told a tale of a unreasonable child who overreacted about something small. He didn’t come home, he must be afraid of getting in trouble. Enter the weird rental car.

Whenever I think of stepmom, I imagine her saying “but wait, there’s more!”.

All my scattered opinion...

 

[FlamingJane]

I should have clarified, its my assumption or opinion that getting kicked out coincided with discovery of the video based on AS reaction is most logical.

I'm not sure why the rental car being impounded is such a big topic.

I'm pretty sure she would not have even brought it up if LE didn't know about the car to begin with. And with all the LE agencies involved, surely they would have thought to impound the car. We're not going to find definitive evidence of that from either MSM or LE, but I think we can safely say it was.

As to whether the 955 miles is accurate... either the mistaken entry or that she drove all those miles are both possible.

I find it more realistic that it was a mistaken entry than she managed to pick her husband up, drop him off somewhere, likely had to talk to LE at some point, load up a dead body from somewhere, then spend 15+ hours of pure driving just to hide him somewhere else further away.

Is it possible? Yes. Is it likely? To me, not. That's not to say anyone else's theory is wrong. I think we need to look at all possibilities, but I also am fairly confident LE already knows the answer to most of our questions.

I agree both are possible too. I think the emphasis on the car impounded came about when people began to reference it as a fact and base things in the timeline on it. Then when others went to look for it, there had never been any confirmation the rental car was impounded. Guessing LE would’ve run her credit card charges so, if she paid that way, they at least knew she rented one. Hopefully in everything else that was going on, they did get a chance to get over there and search it and it wasn’t like half way across the country with another renter by then!