Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #23

[cluciano63]

I am torn about it. Do you think any evidence was in the car?

I have no clue. I do not know what to think about this case at all, to be honest.

 

[Bravo]

Right now, I personally don’t see a scenario where she came home with his body, then called LE to report him missing a few hours later, then had the dilemma of disposing of his body with LE swarming. Or that she left his body “somewhere” then went back to move it the next day. You would also be dealing with a body after 15 + hours (estimated). That’s a whole other stomach turning challenge.

I’m most intrigued by her statement that she left her phone at home on 27 Jan during her shopping trip with an ill Gannon. Then admitting to taking backroads and getting lost. For me this is the crucial window of where was Gannon & what state was he in?

The rental car is very interesting. I could see it being used to dispose of evidence the next day, like literally tossing items out the window. OR maybe even driving past where she last seen him & left his body. This is not uncommon (IMO).

I also think she needed to sell the runaway story and could have absolutely told a tale of a unreasonable child who overreacted about something small. He didn’t come home, he must be afraid of getting in trouble. Enter the weird rental car.

Whenever I think of stepmom, I imagine her saying “but wait, there’s more!”.

All my scattered opinion...

This ^ IMO

 

[10ofRods]

I'm almost positive that Leigh said in the chat here yesterday that TS drove her own car to the airport and to pick up the rental??
Have I got that wrong??

I thought she said it was the red truck. Her car is the VW SUV that has no available mileage without incurring a fee. According to TS.

I think one motivation for the rental car might have been a desire to keep the red truck out of view for at least one more day. I also think that perps in cases like this, in the early days, are very focused

Thanks. Not arguing but just to clarify for any newcomers: This is the timeline if you include everything TS says, but the majority of it goes out the window if you cut it down to what LE or MSM has confirmed through facts.

This is the timeline according to the Media Thread here on WS. It is based on MSM and LE materials only. This is the timeline as approved to talk about here on WS.

As I keep saying, it's up to you to decide whether you want to throw the whole timeline out. If you truly believe she forged the Budget Rental receipt, that's totally up to you. If you believe she didn't all 911 on Monday at around 6:30, that's fine.

But I do believe she did those things, and I also believe she gave that interview to MSM on Friday.

There is no other timeline we can substitute here, though. I believe Gannon went missing on Monday, that LE went into the backyard of the house at night as stated, that neighbors held a vigil, that they searched where they said they searched.

I certainly doubt that TS saw or heard Gannon leave the house at 3:15-4, but other than that, I'm not sure how you'd want to rectify the timeline to account for any disinformation you perceive coming from TS.

From Monday to Friday, this investigation changed focus, and that's not based on TS. Gannon is no longer believed to be a runaway. Both TS and LE say this is not a criminal matter. Not sure what we do with that, but those are the facts as I see them (within WS ToS).

 

[fcavanaugh]

Regardless of if she did put close to a thousand miles on that car, I do think it’s a very real possibility that she did move the body. She needed that rental car for a reason, and it wasn’t an innocent one.

Gannon’s DNA has absolutely no business being there, and cadaver dogs should have no interest in that car.

Body or not, this woman is going down.

Agree she needed the Rental for either of those 2 scenarios. Extremely risky to move a dead body from one location to another, but I was just wondering since I have no idea, how difficult would it be for a woman of her stature to accomplish moving a dead body? I mean how much strength does it take, and could a woman of her size/stature accomplish this feat all by herself? I’m about her size, in fairly good shape, and doubt I’d be able to move a dead body by myself. I guess I’m more inclined to think she used the Rental to dispose of evidence, but who knows. I guess nothing would surprise me in this crazy case.

 

[Bravo]

"If" Tee is still staying at a Hotel I wonder how it's being paid for. This could go on for months. Maybe her "supporters" are helping her out.

 

[DocStetson]

This ^ IMO

Of course, under normal circumstances, I agree no one would opt for the stomach turn of handling a body after 15 hours. But what if they thought they made a mistake or left evidence behind or didn’t hide it well enough? The prospect of losing everything they have and being imprisoned for life might give a person the motivation to return to the unpleasant. That’s just me.

 

[NCWatcher]

Can you give us sources for any of this? I'm just not finding any MSM where RD says which day he found the video.

I believe that the whole neighborhood was shocked and very involved starting on Tuesday. I believe that AS personally went door to door, asking for help on Wednesday, at which point neighbors began to truly review their video. I think it was Thursday or Friday when LE joined in, asking neighbors to review video because (as LE explicitly states) some video might not be available if the time interval was more than 7 days. I know that I would wait until my first available day off to go through the HUNDREDS of clips that our system records daily. They are organized by time, of course. LE asked people to review their video from Monday, the 27th, from 3-4 pm. Many people have more than one camera. So they'd review each camera's video for that 1 hour. People tend to let the video keep running or to review past the end point requested, but once started, people don't immediately think to go back earlier in the day.

Some time between Wednesday morning and Friday (when TS gives her first interview), I believe TS was asked to leave the family home. I believe AS saw more than one neighbor's video in that interval, and obviously, had looked at his own Ring cam many times. I think TS was asked to leave either by Wednesday night or Thursday night, but certainly by Friday morning. Not sure if AS had RD's video by then. I see no MSM mention of exactly when RD reviewed the video or shared it with AS.

BBM

I know I read on MSM RD said he found the footage Sat night when he couldn't sleep. I'll look more for link. For now, here's one where he says it showed it to AS on Sunday. If he had it much earlier, why wait til Sunday? And if he did wait, why show AS at all? Why not let LE do that?
Family of missing Colorado boy makes tearful plea after new surveillance video revealed

To me finding it Sat and showing it to AS Sunday makes the most sense. Especially since he was looking at video earlier than 3-4 pm on the 27th.
JMO

 

[JKathryn]

Agreed! And I don't see someone like her driving around for long -- or at all -- with a body in the car/truck. (And certainly not her own car.) And I'm not sure he was dead yet when she left him wherever she did.

Same. All that driving around might prevent her from being on her precious SM constantly.

 

[10ofRods]

Right now, I personally don’t see a scenario where she came home with his body, then called LE to report him missing a few hours later, then had the dilemma of disposing of his body with LE swarming. Or that she left his body “somewhere” then went back to move it the next day. You would also be dealing with a body after 15 + hours (estimated). That’s a whole other stomach turning challenge.

I’m most intrigued by her statement that she left her phone at home on 27 Jan during her shopping trip with an ill Gannon. Then admitting to taking backroads and getting lost. For me this is the crucial window of where was Gannon & what state was he in?

The rental car is very interesting. I could see it being used to dispose of evidence the next day, like literally tossing items out the window. OR maybe even driving past where she last seen him & left his body. This is not uncommon (IMO).

I also think she needed to sell the runaway story and could have absolutely told a tale of a unreasonable child who overreacted about something small. He didn’t come home, he must be afraid of getting in trouble. Enter the weird rental car.

Whenever I think of stepmom, I imagine her saying “but wait, there’s more!”.

All my scattered opinion...

ITA. I can't explain the rental car, either (unless it was to keep AS from accessing his truck and asking even more questions; i.e, "WHere's the missing shovel?" "Oh, I don't know." Then he learns it's in the truck when she brings the truck back. She must have brought it back Wednesday around 3 pm-ish (after picking it up at the airport). I'm wondering if that was the clue that triggered AS's suspicion to go into overdrive, resulting in the later events of that week.

 

[10ofRods]

You’ve got that right in my book.

Respectfully, can either of you find that phrase? Last night, WS was full of discussion of how she took the truck. It really makes no sense for her to take her mileage-challenged car.

 

[DocStetson]

I thought she said it was the red truck. Her car is the VW SUV that has no available mileage without incurring a fee. According to TS.

I think one motivation for the rental car might have been a desire to keep the red truck out of view for at least one more day. I also think that perps in cases like this, in the early days, are very focused



This is the timeline according to the Media Thread here on WS. It is based on MSM and LE materials only. This is the timeline as approved to talk about here on WS.

As I keep saying, it's up to you to decide whether you want to throw the whole timeline out. If you truly believe she forged the Budget Rental receipt, that's totally up to you. If you believe she didn't all 911 on Monday at around 6:30, that's fine.

But I do believe she did those things, and I also believe she gave that interview to MSM on Friday.

There is no other timeline we can substitute here, though. I believe Gannon went missing on Monday, that LE went into the backyard of the house at night as stated, that neighbors held a vigil, that they searched where they said they searched.

I certainly doubt that TS saw or heard Gannon leave the house at 3:15-4, but other than that, I'm not sure how you'd want to rectify the timeline to account for any disinformation you perceive coming from TS.

From Monday to Friday, this investigation changed focus, and that's not based on TS. Gannon is no longer believed to be a runaway. Both TS and LE say this is not a criminal matter. Not sure what we do with that, but those are the facts as I see them (within WS ToS).

She said she drove her car to the airport. And definitely. This is the timeline from the media thread based on what TS has said in MSM so it’s all able to be discussed. IMHO, newcomers should be alerted that just because her comments were captured in MSM doesn’t mean we all necessarily BELIEVE her version of this timeline. Ya know?

 

[MassGuy]

Right now, I personally don’t see a scenario where she came home with his body, then called LE to report him missing a few hours later, then had the dilemma of disposing of his body with LE swarming. Or that she left his body “somewhere” then went back to move it the next day. You would also be dealing with a body after 15 + hours (estimated). That’s a whole other stomach turning challenge.

I’m most intrigued by her statement that she left her phone at home on 27 Jan during her shopping trip with an ill Gannon. Then admitting to taking backroads and getting lost. For me this is the crucial window of where was Gannon & what state was he in?

The rental car is very interesting. I could see it being used to dispose of evidence the next day, like literally tossing items out the window. OR maybe even driving past where she last seen him & left his body. This is not uncommon (IMO).

I also think she needed to sell the runaway story and could have absolutely told a tale of a unreasonable child who overreacted about something small. He didn’t come home, he must be afraid of getting in trouble. Enter the weird rental car.

Whenever I think of stepmom, I imagine her saying “but wait, there’s more!”.

All my scattered opinion...

I think the most likely scenario is that she used the rental car to travel to where his body was, and make sure it was well concealed.

That, or she returned to retrieve something she may have forgotten.

If she did transport his body in that vehicle, I think it’s far more probable than not that there would have been an arrest by now, or atleast a change in their stance that this is not a criminal investigation.

 

[ShHolmz]

El Paso County Sheriff's Office gets new evidence in search for missing 11-year-old boy

The beginning Sorry iPad. freezing up

Can you give us sources for any of this? I'm just not finding any MSM where RD says which day he found the video.

I believe that the whole neighborhood was shocked and very involved starting on Tuesday. I believe that AS personally went door to door, asking for help on Wednesday, at which point neighbors began to truly review their video. I think it was Thursday or Friday when LE joined in, asking neighbors to review video because (as LE explicitly states) some video might not be available if the time interval was more than 7 days. I know that I would wait until my first available day off to go through the HUNDREDS of clips that our system records daily. They are organized by time, of course. LE asked people to review their video from Monday, the 27th, from 3-4 pm. Many people have more than one camera. So they'd review each camera's video for that 1 hour. People tend to let the video keep running or to review past the end point requested, but once started, people don't immediately think to go back earlier in the day.

Some time between Wednesday morning and Friday (when TS gives her first interview), I believe TS was asked to leave the family home. I believe AS saw more than one neighbor's video in that interval, and obviously, had looked at his own Ring cam many times. I think TS was asked to leave either by Wednesday night or Thursday night, but certainly by Friday morning. Not sure if AS had RD's video by then. I see no MSM mention of exactly when RD reviewed the video or shared it with AS.

 

[DD8]

WHERE THE **** IS GANNON?!!

 

[COSCitizen]

Agree she needed the Rental for either of those 2 scenarios. Extremely risky to move a dead body from one location to another, but I was just wondering since I have no idea, how difficult would it be for a woman of her stature to accomplish moving a dead body? I mean how much strength does it take, and could a woman of her size/stature accomplish this feat all by herself? I’m about her size, in fairly good shape, and doubt I’d be able to move a dead body by myself. I guess I’m more inclined to think she used the Rental to dispose of evidence, but who knows. I guess nothing would surprise me in this crazy case.

According to the original missing poster, Gannon was 85 pounds. He had not yet started getting his growth spurt. I can still carry 50 pounds at my age (60+) though I wouldn't want to do it very far. And most people can drag far more weight than they can carry.

 

[zjz]

It was Colorado Springs airport

With drop-off location seemingly redacted.

 

[Momof4RN]

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PURE SPECULATION

Tues. TS leaves the family home, by choice or demand. Gets a hotel.

What's to say she STAYED in the hotel room that night? She well could've left her daughter there, telling her she was going "searching for Gannon".... she could've borrowed her daughter's phone. No burner needed.

Under cloud of dark she could've moved Gannon 100s of miles. Between say 6 pm or later and 1pm when she returned the car. At a minimum she burned up a full tank of gas.

And she'd only have been NOTICEABLY off the grid Wednesday morning.

I trust LE has a handle on this.

The arrest warrant when it comes will be spellbinding.

JMOJMOJMO

wouldn’t a hotel have cameras? Think they would be able to track her movement in and out.

 

[Coloradokid]

Someone may have mentioned this, but COS is a small airport and the car rental pickup and return is a parking lot on site. It isn’t like most airports where someone checks you in. Yes, there are booths with a key drop, but they aren’t always manned. If you go have to go inside, the counter is about a 5 minute walk. It’s an unusual Airport in that no one ever goes from the counter with you to walk around the car (and verify mileage) and there are times when no one checks you in. If she has a receipt, I would guess that it came from the counter and thus there would be guesswork/estimates on the check in and check out mileage. We probably won’t know whether this info is accurate or not, and yet that is actually a huge piece in this puzzle.

If she has that many miles unaccounted for without GPS or any tracking, and the police have known this since the first few days, I fear they would be looking for a needle in a haystack.

So many crazy twists and turns in this case.

With each lie and contradiction, the odds of the step-mom’s innocence decrease to a statistical improbability that amount to impossibility.

 

[Coloradomomandgrandma]

JMO I don't think Gannon was 85/90 pounds. He seems quite a bit smaller than that. I suppose LE has medical records.

 

[lilithblue]

"If" Tee is still staying at a Hotel I wonder how it's being paid for. This could go on for months. Maybe her "supporters" are helping her out.

I would imagine her daughter receives social security benefits from her father's death, so I'm assuming they have some income. Probably not a lot. No idea if it would fund a hotel stay.

And, no, I don't have a link for that... just assumption.