Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #23

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  • #921
Let's turn this around.

It's LE's job to find Gannon and to investigate his absence.

It's the Prosecution's job to hold whoever's responsible for his absence accountable.

We can speculate wildly here but we DON'T WANT premature charges, premature arrests, impatient and convinced as we may be.

We can be sure LE is putting together a masterful timeline of CCTV images and cellphone pings and MISSING cellphone pings and vehicle GPS data. They are gathering evidence and overlaying. They are advancing. With every new discovery, they have new people to interview, new businesses to visit, etc, etc.

I followed the Frazee case and was blown away by the amount of information that was under wraps until trial.

LE in THIS case isn't going to arrest anyone for being unlikable, unbelievable, downright deceitful, not when first degree murder charges are in their sights. They may well have DNA evidence, cadaverine evidence, damning evidence ALREADY IN HAND but they won't pull that into charges until they are ready. For all we know, they are actively securing cause of death based on circumstantial evidence of which we are as yet unaware.

Be assured, it'll be lock solid when it happens.

JMO
 
  • #922
I think a few folks here may have missed something when they keep offering up the idea that Gannon might have been abducted. I don’t mean this in any condescending way, there’s a lot of info going on here, so it would be easy to miss.

The only time I can think of when LE responded to one of the step mother’s crazy posts is right after she encouraged everyone to think of suspicious cars.

They said there is no threat to the community. That was meaningful to me. I live in this community and I have kids. I also know they have so much more information than we do. It’s almost an insult to Law Enforcement keep saying he might have been abducted considering how little we actually know of this case when they seem pretty confident that isn’t the case.
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Again, no disrespect intended for those who think otherwise, I’m just not buying it in a million years.

Police Responds to Claims of Missing Colo. Boy's Stepmother: 'There Is No Threat to the Community'

BBM

I agree. My own feeling is that very early on, LE had sufficient neighborhood camera views of the time that Gannon reportedly ran away to cast doubt on the report. If there were three cameras, and they were all operational at that time, and there was no sign of Gannon, that is a pretty good clue that Gannon did not walk away from that house. I expect they had that information by the next (Tuesday) morning when the detectives started working on the case.
 
  • #923
The idea, work, an actual act of renting a car to search for your own child because he 'might be afraid' and 'recognize your regular vehicles' speaks volumes. Even if she didn't kill him, but he was in such extreme fear that he truly did run away, that in itself is intense. If my wife were to pick me up at the airport in a rental vehicle and explain that theory to me, my first question would be 'What the F did you do to scare him that much?'
 
  • #924
Let's turn this around.

It's LE's job to find Gannon and to investigate his absence.

It's the Prosecution's job to hold whoever's responsible for his absence accountable.

We can speculate wildly here but we DON'T WANT premature charges, premature arrests, impatient and convinced as we may be.

We can be sure LE is putting together a masterful timeline of CCTV images and cellphone pings and MISSING cellphone pings and vehicle GPS data. They are gathering evidence and overlaying. They are advancing. With every new discovery, they have new people to interview, new businesses to visit, etc, etc.

I followed the Frazee case and was blown away by the amount of information that was under wraps until trial.

LE in THIS case isn't going to arrest anyone for being unlikable, unbelievable, downright deceitful, not when first degree murder charges are in their sights. They may well have DNA evidence, cadaverine evidence, damning evidence ALREADY IN HAND but they won't pull that into charges until they are ready. For all we know, they are actively securing cause of death based on circumstantial evidence of which we are as yet unaware.

Be assured, it'll be lock solid when it happens.

JMO
Great Post!
 
  • #925
At first I thought LS mention of him messing himself might be one of those glimmers of the truth and an indication of what pushed her into some sort of questionable situation. Now I just don’t know. I wondered if him acting slow and sluggish as described by the neighbor in the video would be due to illness. But maybe not. It makes me crazy. I have a 10 yo little boy and this story has me so torn. I’m hoping he could be found but I am too aware of the probabilities and it’s heartbreaking. JMO
 
  • #926
That's possible. But TS is quoted in the same article talking about "Al's truck" so I don't know if she sees them all the same. Also, is it usual for a husband and wife to have both names on car titles? I've not seen it done that way.
Been married 31 years and we’ve always had both our names on every vehicle. Not sure why, I guess to avoid any legal hassles if one of us died. By legal, I don’t mean family or inheritance lol. And we both refer to the vehicles as “your car” or “my truck” going by whoever is the primary driver of said vehicle.
 
  • #927
Let's turn this around.

It's LE's job to find Gannon and to investigate his absence.

It's the Prosecution's job to hold whoever's responsible for his absence accountable.

We can speculate wildly here but we DON'T WANT premature charges, premature arrests, impatient and convinced as we may be.

We can be sure LE is putting together a masterful timeline of CCTV images and cellphone pings and MISSING cellphone pings and vehicle GPS data. They are gathering evidence and overlaying. They are advancing. With every new discovery, they have new people to interview, new businesses to visit, etc, etc.

I followed the Frazee case and was blown away by the amount of information that was under wraps until trial.

LE in THIS case isn't going to arrest anyone for being unlikable, unbelievable, downright deceitful, not when first degree murder charges are in their sights. They may well have DNA evidence, cadaverine evidence, damning evidence ALREADY IN HAND but they won't pull that into charges until they are ready. For all we know, they are actively securing cause of death based on circumstantial evidence of which we are as yet unaware.

Be assured, it'll be lock solid when it happens.

JMO

All due respect, but I’m not sure what you mean by “let’s turn this around.” It is LE and the FBI’s responsibility to act on the evidence they have and pursue justice. But this forum is called WebSLEUTHS because it is for people who are interested in sleuthing and possibly uncovering new angles that could be helpful. I don’t see too many people wildly speculating. To the contrary, I think people are being careful only to draw from approved sources and form logical connections based on what is known.
 
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  • #928
Let's turn this around.

It's LE's job to find Gannon and to investigate his absence.

It's the Prosecution's job to hold whoever's responsible for his absence accountable.

We can speculate wildly here but we DON'T WANT premature charges, premature arrests, impatient and convinced as we may be.

We can be sure LE is putting together a masterful timeline of CCTV images and cellphone pings and MISSING cellphone pings and vehicle GPS data. They are gathering evidence and overlaying. They are advancing. With every new discovery, they have new people to interview, new businesses to visit, etc, etc.

I followed the Frazee case and was blown away by the amount of information that was under wraps until trial.

LE in THIS case isn't going to arrest anyone for being unlikable, unbelievable, downright deceitful, not when first degree murder charges are in their sights. They may well have DNA evidence, cadaverine evidence, damning evidence ALREADY IN HAND but they won't pull that into charges until they are ready. For all we know, they are actively securing cause of death based on circumstantial evidence of which we are as yet unaware.

Be assured, it'll be lock solid when it happens.

JMO

Exactly...I agree 100%. However...and it's a big however...I would think that hindering an investigation or similar acts would warrant some sort of action against TS...even it was to hold her for a minimum amount of time...turn the heat up a little bit to expose more cracks in her story. Also, there is no confirmation nor admonishment from AS regarding the reason for the rented car and other information we WSers consider obvious obstruction on the part of TS...very odd no statements from AS have graced the web or MSM...
 
  • #929
DBM...duplicate
 
  • #930
Yes, it is possible. Everything is on the table until we know. But doesn’t strike me as super probable. Her behavior in driving a sick child to exchange sporting equipment or offering explanations about blood, vomit and poop become extremely coincidental then. And it would be strange for him to not appear on any of the neighborhood cameras.

BBM

It hit me last night, the only video we have seen is the one RD produced. Every home on that street probably has some footage, and it wouldn't surprise me one bit if RD's video was the worst one on the block!
 
  • #931
bbm


She's his step-mother so why wouldn't TS want to believe GS is alive? Do you think LH wants to believe GS is alive? I hope that wouldn't make you mad.

Whether we like it or not TS has not been named as a POI nor as a SUSPECT. Her words and actions are perceived as contradictory, questionable, but we have yet to see evidence of guilt. The circumstantial is incomplete to date. Assumptions are not enough for me. I need to see more, noting my reasonable doubt regarding the RD video.
Well, she did refer to him in the past tense several times. That may give a clue to what she REALLY thinks about G being alive.
 
  • #932
OT but nature has been pretty much demolished by mankind...not sure we are headed for any kind of world a whole lot longer...

As far as LE saying “no threat”...well a child is missing, possibly murdered and no one is in jail, so...if they think this woman is guilty, I hope someone is tailing her. Anyone who would kill is a threat...imo.
According to TS they’re chasing her.
 
  • #933
Yeah, I am suspect of the whole thing, so I tend to agree with your line of thinking. I guess maybe she didn’t know about the extra fuel charges if you don’t return it full. But I tend to think she didn’t spend a whole gas tank driving up and down streets either. Wouldn’t mind hearing AS weigh in as he may be able to confirm or deny how long they searched.

If the rental went 955 or appx 450 miles one way, and went for instance to Texas, MOO there are cameras along those main routes which would be uncovered by police by now.
 
  • #934
I don’t think LE or MSM confirmed he was seen on the hike though. Even though I have seen that said outside of WS. But I might be wrong as this thread is moving too fast to track everything.
There is a picture of him, smiling and alive and well, during the hike. And it is a confirmed pic because a man was in the background of the photo, and he came forward with pictures of that day and place too.
 
  • #935
Let's turn this around.

It's LE's job to find Gannon and to investigate his absence.

It's the Prosecution's job to hold whoever's responsible for his absence accountable.

We can speculate wildly here but we DON'T WANT premature charges, premature arrests, impatient and convinced as we may be.

We can be sure LE is putting together a masterful timeline of CCTV images and cellphone pings and MISSING cellphone pings and vehicle GPS data. They are gathering evidence and overlaying. They are advancing. With every new discovery, they have new people to interview, new businesses to visit, etc, etc.

I followed the Frazee case and was blown away by the amount of information that was under wraps until trial.

LE in THIS case isn't going to arrest anyone for being unlikable, unbelievable, downright deceitful, not when first degree murder charges are in their sights. They may well have DNA evidence, cadaverine evidence, damning evidence ALREADY IN HAND but they won't pull that into charges until they are ready. For all we know, they are actively securing cause of death based on circumstantial evidence of which we are as yet unaware.

Be assured, it'll be lock solid when it happens.

JMO
I assume you mean well in posting this because I can tell you truly care about Gannon based on your posts. I just want to say that I am proud of myself and others here for sorting through some heavy, uncomfortable topics with the hope of contributing an idea or unearthing a tip that might be helpful to bringing Gannon home. While we can’t do everything LE or the FBI can do, I don’t want people to turn things around. I admire their tenacity and commitment to this case and to Gannon and want them to keep going. Xoxo
 
  • #936
Exactly...I agree 100%. However...and it's a big however...I would think that hindering an investigation or similar acts would warrant some sort of action against TS...even it was to hold her for a minimum amount of time...turn the heat up a little bit to expose more cracks in her story. Also, there is no confirmation nor admonishment from AS regarding the reason for the rented car and other information we WSers consider obvious obstruction on the part of TS...very odd no statements from AS have graced the web or MSM...

IMO, I don't think it's odd. Good for AS, most military people I know personally are great at self discipline and knowing when NOT to talk.
 
  • #937
There is a picture of him, smiling and alive and well, during the hike. And it is a confirmed pic because a man was in the background of the photo, and he came forward with pictures of that day and place too.
I saw that posted outside of WS but haven’t seen LE or MSM confirm the date or the witness’ account so I didn’t consider it confirmed yet. I admit I may have missed something tho! Please fill me in!
 
  • #938
Has CrimeOnline issued part 3 of LS’s interview?
Thanks.
 
  • #939
The idea, work, an actual act of renting a car to search for your own child because he 'might be afraid' and 'recognize your regular vehicles' speaks volumes. Even if she didn't kill him, but he was in such extreme fear that he truly did run away, that in itself is intense. If my wife were to pick me up at the airport in a rental vehicle and explain that theory to me, my first question would be 'What the F did you do to scare him that much?'
Absolutely agree. Why would he be so scared of either of his parents - that is frightening in itself. Also, if money is that tight that we have to sell a sofa to pay for a rug my husband would be like why are we renting a $200 car when we have 3 vehicles that are readily available?
 
  • #940
Seems like we have been at this for months! I cant imagine what it's like for loved ones. Where are you little man? So many "helpers" trying so hard to find you :(
 
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