CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, found deceased, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *Arrest* #56

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  • #681
Did anyone else notice that she is only hiding her face when there is testimony about things she should be ashamed about? For example, when they are talking about lies she told or things that make her look bad. When the DNA expert was on or the financial investigator, she was looking up and paying attention.
I wonder if this is part of the strategy or if her attorneys genuinely don't realize how it makes her look?
I have a feeling they don't really care, tbh.

Whatever gets her to not act out and or try to attack someone is probably what they're all hoping for. Her hiding behind her hair is probably best case scenario for them.

I also have a feeling she is highly medicated to help with all the previous things mentioned above. Jmo
 
  • #682
“We turned the whole neighborhood blue for Gannon” - Nicole Mobley

 
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  • #683
I wonder what HH said that he wasn’t allowed to say.

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  • #684

Affidavit reveals police timeline of Gannon Stauch’s murder

The document also reveals a possible motive for the brutal killing: Letecia was unhappy at home and looking for an escape.

These are the details as alleged by police investigators in El Paso County:

January 25th- January 29, 2020


Letecia viewed websites associated with jobs and apartments in Los Angeles, California, and Fort Lauderdale, Orlando, Pensacola, Florida. She visited a cost-calculating moving website.

She also had the following Google searches:

Those searches from the affidavit are interesting because you can see her slow boil on the 25th --a woman who is looking to get out and for a person to take care of her. On the 26th, she is back into the whole idea that a woman who puts her kids first is a better woman. The 27th is early morning hours is a slow burn building about the house damage and G being sick/taking off from work. Pronouns she uses on the days : 25th was his kids (looking for a man), 27th was my kids, 28th was our kid. Just interesting. I think life was really, really, really not good in that relationship. I think G took the brunt of all of it because he had needs and he was a male-- who did not take care of her.
 
  • #685


[…]

Eventually during the conversation with Mobley, Stauch writes that she "needs a witness" for police to believe her story, at one point even offering Mobley money to call her husband and report that she had seen Gannon get into a car with a strange man the night of Jan. 27.

"What if you just said you remembered something suspicious seeing this picture? And explained the description and you didn't think it was relevant until now. Because the kid had the same cover," Stauch wrote after sending a photo of Gannon with the blankets his body was later found with. "I swear to you I didn't do this. I just need help with someone getting this out there so they can start posting in other states."

Mobley, who claimed she did not believe Stauch's story at any point during their text conversation, stated that after receiving those messages from Stauch she reported them and turned her phone over to law enforcement.

[…]

I remember that FB page. It was appalling to me that anyone could have sympathy for her. To hear that this woman had been in contact with the FBI and was trying to string her along makes me feel a teeeeennnny, tinnnnnny bit better about the existence of that page.
 
  • #686
Wonder where she’s getting her clothing?
That's a really good question since it most definitely doesn't appear that there is anyone in the courtroom in her support corner. In fact, that side of the courtroom (just behind where her and her defense attorneys sit) seems conspicuously empty. Does anyone know if her SC family is supporting her, or even HH?
 
  • #687
That's a really good question since it most definitely doesn't appear that there is anyone in the courtroom in her support corner. In fact, that side of the courtroom (just behind where her and her defense attorneys sit) seems conspicuously empty. Does anyone know if her SC family is supporting her, or even HH?
I assumed her attorneys. Not that it's new clothes, probably borrowed.
ETA...Even if new, a couple of pair of slacks and say 10 tops to make Dr. Barbie look presentable (We all know, look innocent will never happen) wouldn't cost that much.
ETA..when the question was googled...sounds reasonable.

A good question. I was a public defender for 10 years. In our main office was an individual office filled with “court clothes.” Of course the first thing you do is ask your client and his/her family for suitable clothes, but when that isn’t possible we had clothes accumulated from years of in-house donations instead of cleaning out our closets and taking the results to Goodwill or other charities. During trial, you provide the clothes to the courtroom bailiffs and they see that the defendant is dressed out every day. In most, if not all U.S. jurisdictions, the defendant has the right to not be seen by the jurors in custody clothing unless and until a verdict is reached. Seeing a custody jumpsuit can lead to an inference of guilt.
 
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  • #688
That's a really good question since it most definitely doesn't appear that there is anyone in the courtroom in her support corner. In fact, that side of the courtroom (just behind where her and her defense attorneys sit) seems conspicuously empty. Does anyone know if her SC family is supporting her, or even HH?
In opening statements when her Defense said that she was not sane when she did this, he said that the Jury would hear from her friends and loved ones that she had been “ unraveling “ in the days leading up to it.

I don’t know if that necessarily means they support her though.

Here’s their witness list. I took it upon myself to redact the phone numbers and addresses Lol


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  • #689
Personally I think she only liked the attention when she could control the narrative.

Now that that's clearly not the case...she doesn't want to be there. Hence her 3 years trying to delay things. Her refusing to come to court. Whatever other nonsense she has pulled along the way.

Jmo

I could not agree more!

And for what it's worth, I've viewed the majority of LS's hearings (via Webinar/WebEx-- thanks to the COVID19 emergency allowance in Colorado), and can attest to LS previously being seated similarly in Judge Werner's court-- as far from her counsel as possible, and barely in camera range.

This is not a coincidence. MOO
 
  • #690
I assumed her attorneys. Not that it's new clothes, probably borrowed.
Maybe the lorson ranch Facebook page sprung some up for her. Okay maybe not.

But I always wonder how defendants that don't seem to have any support get clothes for trial. I imagine there is some sort of program for this (??)
That's a really good question since it most definitely doesn't appear that there is anyone in the courtroom in her support corner. In fact, that side of the courtroom (just behind where her and her defense attorneys sit) seems conspicuously empty. Does anyone know if her SC family is supporting her, or even HH?
Biggest surprise for me so far, tbh. Doesn't appear anyone is in that courtroom besides family.

Im sure the WebEx stream is the reason, but still I expected there to be a crowd.
 
  • #691
[…]

Just like an attorney’s suit, a defendant’s choice of court clothes matters. It has been shown timeand time again that what a defendant wears to court can effect whether they are found guilty. In 2016, Elle tracked how female defendants’s courtroom clothing strategy has changed over time, from ultra-frilly to barely feminine. Criminal defendants are technically innocent until proven guilty, but that doesn’t mean that a jury will think a defendant who shows up to court in an orange jail jumpsuit or dirty T-shirt is innocent. In fact, some courts have found that forcing a defendant to wear a jail uniform in court inherently prejudices the jury against them. Last year, New York City banned the Department of Corrections from sending detained defendants to court in their jail-issued uniforms because of the potential negative effects of the jumpsuits on a jury’s neutrality.

Most public defenders’s offices operate on shoestring budgets that barely allow lawyers to provide adequate services, let alone try to find appropriate clothing for their clients. But public defenders are used to working under punishing conditions and have found creative ways to clothe their clients, with some offices holding donation drives for professional clothing and even more offices relying on the generosity of their own attorneys to stock closets with old suits and ties. When a client is in need, an attorney can duck into the closet and reappear with an old suit or skirt and hope that it’s enough to keep a jury from using their client’s clothing as an indication of guilt.

[…]

When Being a Good Lawyer Means Dressing Your Clients
 
  • #692
Those searches from the affidavit are interesting because you can see her slow boil on the 25th --a woman who is looking to get out and for a person to take care of her. On the 26th, she is back into the whole idea that a woman who puts her kids first is a better woman. The 27th is early morning hours is a slow burn building about the house damage and G being sick/taking off from work. Pronouns she uses on the days : 25th was his kids (looking for a man), 27th was my kids, 28th was our kid. Just interesting. I think life was really, really, really not good in that relationship. I think G took the brunt of all of it because he had needs and he was a male-- who did not take care of her.
Great observation
 
  • #693
I haven’t followed this case from the beginning. How does LS leaving with Gannon in the pickup truck and returning by herself hours later fit into the timeline? Where was he then?
 

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  • #694
[…]

Just like an attorney’s suit, a defendant’s choice of court clothes matters. It has been shown timeand time again that what a defendant wears to court can effect whether they are found guilty. In 2016, Elle tracked how female defendants’s courtroom clothing strategy has changed over time, from ultra-frilly to barely feminine. Criminal defendants are technically innocent until proven guilty, but that doesn’t mean that a jury will think a defendant who shows up to court in an orange jail jumpsuit or dirty T-shirt is innocent. In fact, some courts have found that forcing a defendant to wear a jail uniform in court inherently prejudices the jury against them. Last year, New York City banned the Department of Corrections from sending detained defendants to court in their jail-issued uniforms because of the potential negative effects of the jumpsuits on a jury’s neutrality.

Most public defenders’s offices operate on shoestring budgets that barely allow lawyers to provide adequate services, let alone try to find appropriate clothing for their clients. But public defenders are used to working under punishing conditions and have found creative ways to clothe their clients, with some offices holding donation drives for professional clothing and even more offices relying on the generosity of their own attorneys to stock closets with old suits and ties. When a client is in need, an attorney can duck into the closet and reappear with an old suit or skirt and hope that it’s enough to keep a jury from using their client’s clothing as an indication of guilt.

[…]

When Being a Good Lawyer Means Dressing Your Clients
I assumed this was how it was being managed if she didn't have family supplying civilian dress.

People make prejudgements, especially against women and those assigned female at birth, if their dress and grooming doesn't meet a certain 'standard' in the courtroom. Having this kind of wardrobe on hand is vital for folks to get as fair a trial as possible.

I know we all go through patches of wishing hellfire on defense attorneys at different points, but I do try to put myself in the position of the defendant at times. Not as in empathising with their crime, but with the presumption of innocence. If I was on trial for a crime, and my attorney was able to help me in this way to increase my chances of being tried fairly, I would be so grateful. I see it as on par with providing appropriate clothing to people enduring hardship, homelessness, or having not long got out of prison to help them interview for employment.

It's a way of trying to level the playing field for people without resources. I approve.

MOO
 
  • #695
[…]

Just like an attorney’s suit, a defendant’s choice of court clothes matters. It has been shown timeand time again that what a defendant wears to court can effect whether they are found guilty. In 2016, Elle tracked how female defendants’s courtroom clothing strategy has changed over time, from ultra-frilly to barely feminine. Criminal defendants are technically innocent until proven guilty, but that doesn’t mean that a jury will think a defendant who shows up to court in an orange jail jumpsuit or dirty T-shirt is innocent. In fact, some courts have found that forcing a defendant to wear a jail uniform in court inherently prejudices the jury against them. Last year, New York City banned the Department of Corrections from sending detained defendants to court in their jail-issued uniforms because of the potential negative effects of the jumpsuits on a jury’s neutrality.

Most public defenders’s offices operate on shoestring budgets that barely allow lawyers to provide adequate services, let alone try to find appropriate clothing for their clients. But public defenders are used to working under punishing conditions and have found creative ways to clothe their clients, with some offices holding donation drives for professional clothing and even more offices relying on the generosity of their own attorneys to stock closets with old suits and ties. When a client is in need, an attorney can duck into the closet and reappear with an old suit or skirt and hope that it’s enough to keep a jury from using their client’s clothing as an indication of guilt.

[…]

When Being a Good Lawyer Means Dressing Your Clients

Another Co Springs criminal lawyer's advice:

The best criminal defense lawyers in Colorado Springs will do most of the talking on your behalf while the two of you are in the courtroom, whether at arraignment, a preliminary hearing, or at trial. But there will be occasions where you will need to either address the judge or testify on the witness stand. In every moment you spend before the judge and in the courthouse, you need to put your best foot forward.

Here are five ways that criminal defendants can impress the judge when speaking in Colorado Springs courts.

Dress For Success​

Our local Colorado Springs and El Paso County judges take their courtrooms and their cases seriously. They expect and demand that everyone in the courtroom do the same, including the defendants who appear before them. One way you can show that you respect the judge, their courtroom, and the proceedings is to dress appropriately.

Treat your appearance before the judge just as you would other important engagements, such as a job interview. Business casual should be the absolute minimum dress for court, though a suit and tie, dress, or more formal business attire is always a good call. Whatever you decide to wear, it is important to not go before a judge as if you are heading to a BBQ or a nightclub instead of heading to a criminal proceeding where your future hangs in the balance. Dressing for court in an appropriate way shows respect to the judge and the courtroom and indicates that you take the charges against you seriously. Conveying these signals in the courtroom is an important part of your efforts to impress the judge. ....
 
  • #696
I haven’t followed this case from the beginning. How does LS leaving with Gannon in the pickup truck and returning by herself hours later fit into the timeline? Where was he then?
She didn’t return by herself. Gannon did come back with her according to LE. We just never see him in video coming back.
 
  • #697
I wonder what HH said that he wasn’t allowed to say.

2:04:45



The topic was the carpet fire but I think the objection here was hearsay. HH was not available to be cross-examined about the statement. JMO
 
  • #698
Another Co Springs criminal lawyer's advice:

The best criminal defense lawyers in Colorado Springs will do most of the talking on your behalf while the two of you are in the courtroom, whether at arraignment, a preliminary hearing, or at trial. But there will be occasions where you will need to either address the judge or testify on the witness stand. In every moment you spend before the judge and in the courthouse, you need to put your best foot forward.

Here are five ways that criminal defendants can impress the judge when speaking in Colorado Springs courts.

Dress For Success​

Our local Colorado Springs and El Paso County judges take their courtrooms and their cases seriously. They expect and demand that everyone in the courtroom do the same, including the defendants who appear before them. One way you can show that you respect the judge, their courtroom, and the proceedings is to dress appropriately.

Treat your appearance before the judge just as you would other important engagements, such as a job interview. Business casual should be the absolute minimum dress for court, though a suit and tie, dress, or more formal business attire is always a good call. Whatever you decide to wear, it is important to not go before a judge as if you are heading to a BBQ or a nightclub instead of heading to a criminal proceeding where your future hangs in the balance. Dressing for court in an appropriate way shows respect to the judge and the courtroom and indicates that you take the charges against you seriously. Conveying these signals in the courtroom is an important part of your efforts to impress the judge. ....
That's why I had SUCH an issue with Barry M's daughters and the way they were dressed for court. JMO
 
  • #699
I’m watching the trial via Gray Hughes’ YouTube channel right now, and he played some clip of a woman saying something like “ah come on, man!” when the medical examiner was testifying about the smell of decomposition and I thought it was an outburst from TS!! :oops:
There was an innocent child's decomposing body stuffed into that suitcase and thrown over the bridge. Of course it is going to smell all this time later. Whoever said it should have some respect, and if it was the defendant, she can just shut the hell up. She's the one that put him there. That makes me furious.

MOO
 
  • #700
It's reminiscent of her backwards interview. I think it's a mask. She can hide her reactions.

Also I don't suppose she feels good about her hygiene/appearance. She has to know that the live feed has no pucker filters.

Jmo
I rewatched that interview when she turns her back on the camera. What an ego!
Only self concerned. Looking forward to everyone apologizing to HER when Gannon comes home.
 
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