CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, found deceased, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *Arrest* #58

[TwoBlueJays]

Watching the judge watch the witness - can't interpret the look on his face. He looks concerned.

Edit - he's actually watching T. I had the direction wrong. He looks faintly disgusted.

 

[arielilane]

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Back at my desk. Harley is testifying about her mom wanting to move often.

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[PhoneJockey]

Idk. If LS wanted to protect HH with a lie, she could have said he died of a heart attack. Not use a violent death by another as a lie.

Exactly this. This is way more traumatic. I gasped when she said that she only found out the truth a week ago.

 

[Angiebla]

I am so good Harley is doing well, considering her only parent is in jail. I hope Al is still supporting her.

 

[Kiranerys]

I'm a bit behind on the thread but not the proceedings. I've got LS zoomed in, she us NOT doing well with Harley being up there. She is giving her daggers and she looks barely contained!.

I have seen her fingers in the V sign already, she catches herself quickly, I can't tell if it's on purpose.

I am disappointed that Mr Young is doing the direct, I don't like his style and I think Mr Allen would have been the better choice.

All jmo

 

[arielilane]

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[10ofRods]

Hasn't seen LS since she was arrested.

Is studying nursing in Myrtle Beach.

Had a good relationship with Gannon and Little sis. Was twelve when AS and LS got married. Gannon was four, Little sis was two. Says they were like brother and sister for her, despite the age difference.

Says she got closer to AS over time, as her grief for her father lessened.

HH ONLY LEARNED HER FATHER DIED OF AN OVERDOSE THIS WEEK, FROM THE INTERNET. LS HAD TOLD HER HE DIED IN A ROBBERY.

Just when I thought nothing about this case could ever shock me.

 

[arielilane]

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Hunt just testified that she only found out last week that her father died of an overdose. Up until now she had believed her father died during a robbery gone wrong, which is the story her mother had told her about his death, which occurred several years ago.

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[arielilane]

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[arielilane]

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Letecia is sitting in between her lawyers today as her daughter testifies.

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[TwoBlueJays]

 

[arielilane]

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Harley says it was her mom's idea to want to move to Colorado. She said there was an incident that had happened but she didn't know too much about it.

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[arielilane]

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During testimony, Harley acknowledged her mom’s case getting a lot of attention on the internet, and it being difficult to testify right now. Harley said she hasn’t seen her mom in person since March 2, 2020, the day Letecia Stauch was arrested in Myrtle Beach.

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[arielilane]

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Harley talking about living in Colorado "It started to feel like we were family again because everyone was there and we were together."

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[iamshadow21]

AS was at training a lot, LS was open with HH about wanting him home more and that she did not like being home 'alone' with 'the kids'.

Moves were frequent throughout her life with LS. Talking through different places they've lived. In Alaska, she did school online. Was back and forth from Alaska to MB regularly. Sometimes the kids were with them, sometimes with their mum. Never fully moved to Alaska. LS hated Alaska because it was cold, she couldn't work there, nothing to do.

'We all were excited' about the move to Colorado. Wasn't told much about the reasons for the move. Sold the Myrtle Beach house, and drove across the country to Colorado. Got the house, then the kids came, then AS arrived. Were in the house a year before Gannon's death. First time they had all lived together for an extended time.

Says it started to feel like they were a family again. Also says AS and LS argued 'often'. Gannon and Little sis would come to her room and she would turn the tv up to mask the argument. LS would try to pull her into arguments to back her up. HH asked her why she did it, that she didn't like it, LS continued to do it.

 

[TwoBlueJays]

Oh this poor girl. Tried to be a big sis and keep her little siblings safe while the parents argued. :-(

 

[arielilane]

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Harley getting emotional talking about how Letecia and Al would argue while living in Colorado. She says her mom would ask her opinion on it when they would fight. "I just said I don't want to be a part of this."

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[NCWatcher]

Really good point, @MsMarple. Someone should have seen the more normal (non-Evil) personality at some point in the last three years. We can compare to that woman who just seems to have admitted killing her only son, at age 11, then driving her car into the Atlantic. "I know what I did," is what she told police (that's from memory - it was posted last night on that thread).

GUILTY - PA - Matthew Whitehead, 11, found deceased in mom’s bedroom, her SUV found in NJ ocean, Horsham Twp, 11 Apr 2023 *arrest*

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I totally agree. It mystifies me that Colorado has its law set up this way. OTOH, legislators don't always think backwards from the point of view of trial judges or attorneys (or the general public). Some people definitely believe that if it's in DSM (which is designed for completely other purposes), then the person is "mentally ill." Some people think mentally ill = insane. I am sure we will hear completely opposite viewpoints from the experts, although I do think the State has to face the issue that she was held for psychiatric observation in CO for quite a while, until they stabilized her enough to meet the bar of "competent to stand trial."

It makes no sense to me. How can a person be "competent to stand trial" and "legally insane" at the same time? I suppose the bar in CO is something like "able to comprehend the charges and aid in their own defense." And I suppose the jury is only to decide whether she was insane at the time she killed Gannon. Whatever is wrong with this defendant, it's longterm, permanent and profound. It didn't just pop up that day and last a few days, then go away. It's her own normal, her own baseline (IMO).

Every person I know who has only glanced casually at this trial seems to utter the same words as your husband (or use the word "crazy"). I am hopeful, though, that the prosecution's explanation of the legal criteria in CO is going to do the trick at closing. I think the jury wants badly to find her guilty (how could they not?)

All IMO.

It's not just a matter of Colorado law though. Juries are always asked to make the decision when there is an insanity plea. Not to assign a diagnosis, but to say yes/no to insanity. And any person in any US state who has ever been found Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity or found Guilty but Insane by a jury has been competent to stand trial. (Competency is a fairly low bar.) Competency relates to functioning at the time of trial while insanity relates to functioning at the time of the crime. Sometimes a person's presumed insanity makes the person incompetent for trial too. But certainly not always. So there can't be an assumption that a person was or wasn't insane at the time of the crime based on competency at the time of trial. But if there's a trial verdict, the person had to be competent or the trial wouldn't have occurred.
JMO

 

[10ofRods]

I'm a bit behind on the thread but not the proceedings. I've got LS zoomed in, she us NOT doing well with Harley being up there. She is giving her daggers and she looks barely contained!.

I have seen her fingers in the V sign already, she catches herself quickly, I can't tell if it's on purpose.

I am disappointed that Mr Young is doing the direct, I don't like his style and I think Mr Allen would have been the better choice.

All jmo

I think he's working well with this witness - assisting her in remembering the name of the school, helping to calm her down by such assistance, instead of making it a point about her memory. His voice is controlled and kind. She's able to look straight at him and it seems to be helping with her testimony (she's rather vague and he's quietly drilling down as best he can without pushing her into tears again.

THe comments of people on some of the youtube feed are horrific - I'm finding Recovery Addict's moderation to be the best.

IMO.

 

[arielilane]

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When asked about her and Gannon’s relationship, Harley said, “We had a good relationship. Of course we had an age difference, but I would always try to be there for them when I could.”

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