CO - James Holmes Trial Discussion - Begins April 27, 2015 #11

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  • #261
I wonder what the difference is when a trial is live streamed? Is it the state or the court/judge themselves? Travis Alexander lying dead in his shower was shown for all & Trayvon Martin, are some off the top of my head. But the judge blacked out Reeva Steencamps photos in S. Africa.

I watched parts of the JA trial. When I saw the images of Travis in the shower my legs went to jelly. I wish I'd looked away. I suppose I didn't expect them to show it on the video.

I understand that most people are absolutely fine to see images like this. I'm more than likely in the minority. And I don't have a problem with images being shown - as long as I have the chance to look away!


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  • #262
I wonder what the difference is when a trial is live streamed? Is it the state or the court/judge themselves? Travis Alexander lying dead in his shower was shown for all & Trayvon Martin, are some off the top of my head. But the judge blacked out Reeva Steencamps photos in S. Africa.

If we don't want to watch we turn off the screen. I would watch to remind me why I don't want to go to the theater for $15 a movie ticket for 1hr 30min average time movie.
 
  • #263
The Gold Patrol ® ‏@thegoldpatrol 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Injuries:

- Hip injury while laying on floor
- Shot to knee
- Hip injury cut urethra w. nerve damage

Now this BBM I know about..This young man will be affected for the rest of his life..Likely with an Ileal conduit which was my first specialty following graduations....
http://www.surgeryencyclopedia.com/Fi-La/Ileal-Conduit-Surgery.html

I'm amazed it wasn't allowed to express his full impact of such injury????
 
  • #264
The Han's got married on the first anniversary of the shooting. They wanted to create a different memory. I think that's really nice.


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  • #265
I can respect your opinion. When I first heard JH being interviewed I, like others, had a sense of empathy. But over time I came to realize he had a choice to do the right thing even right up to the minute before the massacre. He chose the
selfish path.


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Yeah... same here. All that empathy I felt watching the first day of his interview w/ Dr. Reid (like I felt he was still a person... just like the rest of us) went right out the door... on like Day TWO of that same interview. LOL
 
  • #266
John Larimer. He was Julia's boyfriend :(

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  • #267
The Gold Patrol ® ‏@thegoldpatrol 4m4 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Next up is Bear Omundson

The Gold Patrol ® ‏@thegoldpatrol 4m4 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Bear was active duty Navy

Cathy ‏@courtchatter 3m3 minutes ago
Next on the stand is Bear Omundson, he was also with John Larimer and Julia Vojtsek. #theatershooting

The Gold Patrol ® ‏@thegoldpatrol 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Familiar with armor, tear gas, guns, from his time in the Navy

The Gold Patrol ® ‏@thegoldpatrol 59s59 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Couldn’t breathe, runny noes/eyes. After that, he heard gunshots. People around didn’t react at first but dove into seats
 
  • #268
Ohhh.. This guy observed JH not just stand near exit door...Yikes..
The Gold Patrol ® ‏@thegoldpatrol 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Jh walked in front and went towards back of theater.
 
  • #269
This witness is very upset. So sad to listen to him try to compose himself as he describes carrying John out of the theatre.


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  • #270
@larryryckman: Omundson shows jurors where he sat with John Larimer and friends in #theatershooting

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  • #271
Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman 1m1 minute ago
Omundson is choking up as he describes trying to flee. "He wouldn't get up." He and friend tried to pick up Larimer. #theatershooting

This is so VERY hard to listen to :-(((..REminds us of the horror of the moment for these victims....Just to mention..I'm a widow of Vietnam vet who for the rest of his life..constantly had terror dreams recalling war experiences...This young man will be no different than war hero's who experience such (PTSD) symptoms!! God Bless him and ALL of the victims!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
  • #272
Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman 1m1 minute ago
Omundson is choking up as he describes trying to flee. "He wouldn't get up." He and friend tried to pick up Larimer. #theatershooting

This is so VERY hard to listen to :-(((..REminds us of the horror of the moment for these victims....Just to mention..I'm a widow of Vietnam vet who for the rest of his life..constantly had terror dreams recalling war experiences...This young man will be no different than war hero's who experience such PTSD!! God Bless him and ALL of the victims!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It shows their strength of character that they can come to court and give evidence knowing that JH is sitting so close to them. I wish I could hug them all.


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  • #273
I think the testimony is more powerful when these victims get emotional.

I hope the prosecution ends with a theater victim... and that person gets emotional.

That sounds horrible- of course, I don't want these people to suffer any more than they already have, but in terms of their words impacting the jury... I think tears and choking up makes their testimony more impactful., and brings home the gravity of what JH did to them.
 
  • #274
Cathy ‏@courtchatter 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting Trial adjourns for a 3 days weekend on emotional testimony. Court resumes Monday at 8:40am MDT.
 
  • #275
I'm sure it's obvious to y'all when I get home from work every day because you don't hear a peep out of me until around the same time every day and, because I have to play catchup, I'm always commenting about something discussed way earlier. Sorry about that.

BUT I work as a clerk for my county's school district and we just started our summer schedule this week---Friday's off! So maybe I'll be around tomorrow and you'll hear more from me & at the relevant times. Sorry about that too... LOL :)

ETA: never mind... I saw there's no court tomorrow. Good gahhhh!
 
  • #276
@larryryckman: Omundson shows jurors where he sat with John Larimer and friends in #theatershooting

b276274da0ba2586d3df7f4471bb7826.jpg


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How do the victims remember where their seats were? When I go to the movies I never pay attention to the seat. I could never remember years later the exact seat.
 
  • #277
I think most of us agree that JH is mentally ill. The question is was he legally insane at the time he carried out the shooting. I don't believe he was.


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I don't believe he was either. In Fact.. I think he was extremely aware of what he was doing.
 
  • #278
How do the victims remember where their seats were? When I go to the movies I never pay attention to the seat. I could never remember years later the exact seat.

Me either but I'd probably remember if a masked gunman came in there and I had to dodge bullets!
 
  • #279
I think the testimony is more powerful when these victims get emotional.

I hope the prosecution ends with a theater victim... and that person gets emotional.

That sounds horrible- of course, I don't want these people to suffer any more than they already have, but in terms of their words impacting the jury... I think tears and choking up makes their testimony more impactful., and brings home the gravity of what JH did to them.

I believe the prosecution will end with Veronica Moser Sullivan's mother.


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  • #280
The judge has been keeping an eye on the "sleeping" juror. She's been awake and listening.


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