CO - James Holmes Trial Discussion - Begins April 27, 2015 # 3

[corundogs]

Did Marshall just say we are getting an early day today - the for woman who broke her tooth? At 4:30? Or was it another day?

 

[Maisiebelle]

The definition will be for "legal insanity". The key word being legal

That's what I meant

 

[I'mjazzed]

Did Marshall just say we are getting an early day today - the for woman who broke her tooth? At 4:30? Or was it another day?

Tomorrow

 

[LyndyLoo]

I'm Lmbo with some of these tweets..one calling juror question rather silly~~
MMc ‏@RieMcAz 8m8 minutes ago
More stupid f'g questions from that ONE juror I'm sure. "Do you know where the other sock was?"
MMc ‏@RieMcAz 2m2 minutes ago
@Judy80zinTX oh my god FFS. One more dumb question and Judge is gonna give em the heave ho! lmao #JamesHolmes

While I really don't find any fault with the question..BUT what it does expose is total ignorance of job/tasking/expertise.specialty of each and every witness....FOr example..If I had to go in and draw blood or start IV..I wouldn't be assessing's patient's total body health..But may note his interactive ability..what he was wearing or how cognitive they were during interactions....Of course I would take note of clothing location :laugh: So I would never make fun of but only point out lack of definitions of ROLE..

Having said that tho..Do laypeople really believe that every single person is responsible to assess every single thing during their interaction?? Do they really believe IF they didn't that investigation was lacking??? That's what any defince team wants a jury to believe..BUT that isn't reality!! :laughing:

 

[Maisiebelle]

Did Marshall just say we are getting an early day today - the for woman who broke her tooth? At 4:30? Or was it another day?

I think he said tomorrow?

 

[I'mjazzed]

a minute ago

Prosecution calls Carol Crowe, forensic scientist with the Colorado Bureau of Investigations.

 

[Chelly]

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 13s14 seconds ago
Carol Crowe is on the stand she's a forensic scientist #theatershooting #theatertrial

 

[Chelly]

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 6s7 seconds ago
She does gun shot residue analysis #theatershooting #theatertrial

 

[corundogs]

I'm Lmbo with some of these tweets..one calling juror question rather silly~~
MMc ‏@RieMcAz 8m8 minutes ago
More stupid f'g questions from that ONE juror I'm sure. "Do you know where the other sock was?"
MMc ‏@RieMcAz 2m2 minutes ago
@Judy80zinTX oh my god FFS. One more dumb question and Judge is gonna give em the heave ho! lmao #JamesHolmes

While I really don't find any fault with the question..BUT what it does expose is total ignorance of job/tasking/expertise.specialty of each and every witness....FOr example..If I had to go in and draw blood or start IV..I wouldn't be assessing's patient's total body health..But may note his interactive ability..what he was wearing or how cognitive they were during interactions....Of course I would take note of clothing location :laugh: So I would never make fun of but only point out lack of definitions of ROLE..

Having said that tho..Do laypeople really believe that every single person is responsible to assess every single thing during their interaction?? Do they really believe IF they didn't that investigation was lacking??? That's what any defince team wants a jury to believe..BUT that isn't reality!! :laughing:

I am going to respond to this with a question for y'all!

When put on a jury, especially this jury, do they have to answer if they know anything about it already?

For example, could that juror have remembered the reports of him playing puppet with his sock?????

If they can have prior knowledge, I would almost be willing to bet money that is why that questioned was asked!

 

[I'mjazzed]

a minute ago

CBI forensic scientist Carol Crowe analyzes fire evidence and gunshot residue evidence.







a minute ago

CBI forensic scientist Carol Crowe said she goes through proficiency testing about once a year.

 

[MissHaley]

Well at least one juror is listening..asking questions about contacts...LOL Not a worry..We have a jury actually listening the the evidence!!!!

I recall as a Trauma nurse..with BF who wore contacts..I always inquired about Contact lenses inplace when trauma victim came in..(as IF left in place under anesthesia could cause huge problems IF left in without proper care/removal!!!!) Some just "Never thought of that" :facepalm: In my business..it's the collective experiences that make a great team effort when caring for patients :happydance:

Well, he bought black contacts during his shopping spree!!! And then posted selfies of him wearing them!!!

 

[Chelly]

The Gold Patrol™2 ‏@TheGoldPatrol2 7h7 hours ago
We are live streaming the #TheaterShooting trial at http://TheGoldPatrol.com and live tweeting @TheGoldPatrol

 

[I'mjazzed]

a few seconds ago

CBI forensic scientist Carol Crowe accepted as expert witness in gunshot residue analysis.

 

[corundogs]

I don't know if it means I am dumb or something...LOL!

But I have such a hard time following testimony like this!!!

 

[LyndyLoo]

I am going to respond to this with a question for y'all!

When put on a jury, especially this jury, do they have to answer if they know anything about it already?

For example, could that juror have remembered the reports of him playing puppet with his sock?????

If they can have prior knowledge, I would almost be willing to bet money that is why that questioned was asked!

You may be right there ..although I don't specifically recall that..But of course I don't recall the Prosecution's every single word..But's thinking about it..maybe pros. mentioned it ..from some witness who may have observed it..not necessarily from that situation..but from how he acted while in jail..WHo knows...???

I know they ask that question about prior exposure of information surrounding case..however, can they put it aside comes next..then if say Yes..depending of other answers during voir dire of juror...:thinking:

 

[Chelly]

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 1m1 minute ago
Wow Carole Crowe has analyzed over 7000 gun shot reside evidence #theatershooting #theatertrial

 

[Chelly]

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 45s46 seconds ago
Crowe is explaining to the jury what gun shot residue is and how it happens #theatershooting #theatertrial

 

[Chelly]

Tweets are slow in coming.
Courtroom reporters likely feel same as I re "expert witnesses"

 

[corundogs]

You may be right there ..although I don't specifically recall that..But of course I don't recall the Prosecution's every single word..But's thinking about it..maybe pros. mentioned it ..from some witness who may have observed it..not necessarily from that situation..but from how he acted while in jail..WHo knows...???

I know they ask that question about prior exposure of information surrounding case..however, can they put it aside comes next..then if say Yes..depending of other answers during voir dire of juror...:thinking:

Ok...sorry, I may have been confused. I remember reading reports on it when this first happened. I just googled "James Holmes Sock Puppet" which was a google recommendation, so clearly I am not the first! LOL!!

And the reports say that he played "sock puppets" with the bags on his hands, as reported in pre-trial by a Detective

A police interrogator testified that Holmes played as if his hands, which were bagged to preserve gunshot residue, were sock puppets and attempted to stick a staple into an electrical socket. The defense closely questioned the first responder to the scene, who said Holmes was also sweating profusely, had dilated pupils, and appeared detached from the scene.
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...pets-james-holmes-pre-trial-hearing-continues

So apparently, he wasn't playing with his actual socks! LOL!!

 

[LyndyLoo]

I don't know if it means I am dumb or something...LOL!

But I have such a hard time following testimony like this!!!

Never fear..as long as I'm here..ask away since I'm solid when it comes to scientific and testimony like this....so ask away..don't let your eye's glaze over sweet pea <hugs>