CO - James Holmes Trial Discussion - Begins April 27, 2015 # 8

[zoey]

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 50s51 seconds ago
JH says the meds helped him be around people. He didn't fear them #theatershooting #theatertrial

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Reid - Did shootings have to do w. hating people?

JH - They made me anxious. I hate them
JH - I wasn’t mad at anyone in the theater

JH mean “them” meaning people in general, not the people specifically in the theater

 

[zoey]

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 59s60 seconds ago
JH says he wasn't mad at anyone in theater #theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 45s46 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Killing assumes their value?

JH - Right

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 56s57 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Hatred of people and gaining their values were separate

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 36s37 seconds ago
JH "if you kill them you don't have to deal with it." Dr says you could have never went to theater....#theatershooting #theatertrial

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 56s56 seconds ago
#theatershooting

He took meds as directed

Avoidance of people went down. Clonazepam had side effects - tired, unable to focus

 

[MissHaley]

Ohhhhh BAM..Dr. Reid just got JH to admit he was anticipating after the shooting he would either die or go to prison or die in prison...THAT my folks mean's he knew what he was going to do was wrong and figured out the consequences of his actions. By Colorado Law..this translates simply that he actually considered the consequences of his plan..so appreciated his actions were WRONG and Consequential! :drumroll:

BBM-

'Thanks' button isn't working for me so, Thanks.
I'm glad you posted this. It's very clear, he figured & knew what would happen. When I make a comment similar to your observations, I get sniped at. So, thanks.

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 55s55 seconds ago
#theatershooting

He took it for a week and saw Fenton again. She told him to stop taking it.

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 54s54 seconds ago
JH says he took his meds as directed #theatershooting #theatertrial

 

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

JH stopped seeing them. JH made it his last appointment - he doesn’t know why.
JH overruled the treatment versus the “mission

JH - The force to kill took hold of his mind
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH says he ended therapy and isn't sure why #theatershooting #theatertrial

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Strong forces take over people’s mind all the time. Thought about why this took hold?

JH- i don’t know hwy
At that point i was more focused on going through with it than stopping it.

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Anything said it was the wrong thing to do?

JH - Not sure
JH - I knew it was legally wrong

 

[MissHaley]

well, he just admitted 'I knew it was legally wrong'.

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

JH looks straight ahead as video plays. He hasn’t looked at screen as far as i know in the days it has played

 

[bexlex]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Anything said it was the wrong thing to do?

JH - Not sure
JH - I knew it was legally wrong

Prep by the defense team

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

JH knew people would be killed/wounded. He considered them numbers
JH - A number of people that died - in conglomerate mass
The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting
Reid: saw individuals?

JH - I didn’t look at the people. I didn’t single them out as individuals

Reid: As you drove you didn’t try to hit pedestrians?

JH - Concentrated on getting to theater w/o getting pulled over
JH - I didn’t look at the people. I didn’t single them out as individuals
Reid: As you drove you didn’t try to hit pedestrians?

JH - Concentrated on getting to theater w/o getting pulled over
--Colorado News ‏@_ColoradoNews_ · 2m2 minutes ago
#Colorado #News Psychiatrist: child’s death saddens theater gunman #theatershooting:
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--Julie Hayden ‏@HaydenTV · 2m2 minutes ago
Shooter talks about #theatershooting victims "I just considered them numbers not people

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

JH - Didn’t cross his mind he would hurt real people. Amorphous people. Not “John Doe” or whatever
Hitting people is personal hitting a little old lady with your car
Dr is using old lady as hypothetical, by the way.

 

[Maisiebelle]

The Gold Patrol[emoji769] ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

JH looks straight ahead as video plays. He hasn’t looked at screen as far as i know in the days it has played

Could he be watching the other screen (next to judge) or is the video just being shown on one screen?

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[LyndyLoo]

WOW..WHy wouldn't you hit that old lady...That it will interfere with his mission....WOW..I thought he was trying to get stopped!! Said he wanted the FBI or his Doctor's to stop him!!

By hitting the old lady wasn't in his plan..so would have been a shock ( stressor) so would avoid her....Yikes..He can't even feel anything about those he injured or killed!! Why? He says "Because I don't know them"..Harken's back to his saying he was uncomfortable with people he doesn't know..so avoids them..SMH!:facepalm:

 

[bexlex]

ooooo he needed his killing to be impersonal!!!!

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

1. Interfere with mission

2. Viceral reaction
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

People in theater, how do you feel about them now.

JH - I don’t know them.
-The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

I heard #’s over 50 wounded and 12 dead. What came to mind as he heard - it was new info. I didn’t know that in theater
Wounded didn’t count in the worth. I only count fatalities
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
JH says he didn't know the people in theater but they are going to make him know them...#theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Way to think about dead:

- Can’t be repaired. Irreversible
- Positive for him

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Wounded:

They’re collateral damage, I guess
--Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH says he didn't know the number of dead in theater but when he found out he became "worth 12 more" #theatershooting #theatertrial

--Congress Park Denver ‏@InCongressPark · 2m2 minutes ago
Psychiatrist: child’s death saddens theater gunman #theatershooting http://ift.tt/1I67Pth

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Any chance you would miss people?

JH - Statistical you shoot enough you will hit somebody

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH knew if he shot enough bullets they would hit someone #theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Regret you had?

JH- They get debilitated, paralyzed, lose limbs. Too bad - it couldn't have been avoided

 

[MissHaley]

Prep by the defense team

Why would defense prep him to say that? Isn't that the opposite of what they're trying to prove? He was legally insane & didn't know it was wrong due to a diseased mind.

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

JH - I am shooting blind into this crowd. If i had set up differently, it could have been different

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

JH - I am shooting blind into this crowd. If i had set up differently, it could have been different

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH knew people would become paralyzed and loose limbs and "it's to bad that couldn't be avoided" #theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

I didn’t know a way to make it impersonal and still be able to kill them
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

I didn’t know a way to make it impersonal and still be able to kill them