CO - James Holmes Trial Discussion - Begins April 27, 2015 # 8

[MissHaley]

Says his value is 13 now. WOW
He sounds very cold/evil. IMO
He feels better now is value is more. His words.

 

[bexlex]

Why does Reid take JH's pulse every so often?


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His eyes keep dialating....so he takes his pulse to see if it's heart rate that is doing it

 

[zoey]

Why does Reid take JH's pulse every so often?


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because of his pupils being so large

 

[zoey]

Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
#TheaterShooting mental eval vid: Holmes says people making anxious so he hates them. Hates no one personally. Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1Fp1WUV

 

[LyndyLoo]

For a guy with such a high IQ..sure is using grad school ability only and unable use other words to describe a word like remorseful. I'll bet his grades in literature and writing stories and using many words to describe his storyline were limited ...Yikes..Language skills seem to be limited and narrowly scoped and unable to articulate !!!!

Surely, his left side of brain interferes with his right side of brain functions!!:thinking:

 

[zoey]

Says his value is 13 now. WOW
He sounds very cold/evil. IMO
He feels better now is value is more. His words.

he is very very proud of his actions---there is NO remorse whatsoever
I'm getting angry

 

[bexlex]

Jh is so full of it. He's lying to himself as well as the Dr I think

 

[zoey]

:gaah:The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

JH - Feels better he didn’t have to kill himself.
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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 2m2 minutes ago
#TheaterShooting mental eval vid: Asked if he knew shooting=wrong, Holmes says he knew it was "legally wrong." Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1Fp1WUV

--Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 2m2 minutes ago
#TheaterShooting mental eval vid: Holmes says he considered victims "numbers, not people." Watch live: http://link.kdvr.com/1Fp1WUV
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Dr Reid: You said you weren’t suicidal before killings?

JH - I transferred it into homicide

Reid: You were specific

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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Reid: Now you feel suicidal now?

JH - Yeah, I have done the homicidal

--Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH said he didn't feel suicidal earlier and now says he does because he's completed the homicidal #theatershooting #theatertrial
--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Tried?

JH - Yes and no. I like was trying to bang my head open in cell. They put me on suicide watch
The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
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Reid: Tried?

JH - Yes and no. I like was trying to bang my head open in cell. They put me on suicide watch

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
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I was still banging my head. I feel backwards off my bunk

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
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They took me into suicide watch on 2nd time

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
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When falling back , JH doesn’t remember what he was thinking

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
JH tried to crack his head open by banging it on cell doors, fell backwards off bunk #TheaterShooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Climbed on bunk (remembers that

 

[corundogs]

I have lots of reading to do...

But I am so upset about this video today. I wanted to throw up, and had tears streaming down my face.

I hope everyone is staying strong!!!!!

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Next?

JH - I just leaned back and fell
--Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
He got put on a suicidal hold and removed from cell #theatershooting

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Reid: What did you think may happen?

JH - I don’t know
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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 2m2 minutes ago
#TheaterShooting mental eval vid: Holmes says his self worth is at 13, given the 12 lives he took. Watch live: http://link.kdvr.com/1Fp1WUV

--Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 2m2 minutes ago
#TheaterShooting mental eval vid: Holmes not suicidal before killings because he "transferred it to homicide." Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1Fp1WUV

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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 2m2 minutes ago
#TheaterShooting mental eval vid: Holmes not suicidal before killings because he "transferred it to homicide." Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1Fp1WUV

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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 2m2 minutes ago
#TheaterShooting mental eval vid: Holmes not suicidal before killings because he "transferred it to homicide." Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1Fp1WUV

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Pros has ?’s for about 15 min. Will proceed and take break
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[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 44s45 seconds ago
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Pros: Discussion about increasing self worth.

Reid: Talks about believing he take take pt. of value per kill

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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Reid: If one truly believes this, that may be a delusion or belief. I wrestled both ways

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 43s44 seconds ago
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Reid: He makes clear the point for killing each is vague and abstract, No magical powers, except point, which he likes

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Reid: It makes him feel good.

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 59s59 seconds ago
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Reid: Willing to trade life for that point in 2012 & create injuries to get a point

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
Dr Reid said JH liked the "points" when he killed someone #TheaterShooting #theatertrial

 

[zoey]

Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 1m1 minute ago
I'll go on record. No way does this jury find JH NG by Reason of insanity.This interview shows he doesn't meet def, IMO. #theatershooting

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Reid: The inference is that he expected to kill. 3 would make it worthwhile. He voluntarily stopped the killings

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Reid: The inference is that he expected to kill. 3 would make it worthwhile. He voluntarily stopped the killings.

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Implication he had relief when it was over - end of the task

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Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 2m2 minutes ago
Explaining Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity - http://www.courtchatter.com/#!James...-Insanity-plea/c1oiw/553e8fb50cf2adc1acf3013e … #theatershooting

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[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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Reid: - Clear that JH didn’t care about collateral damage. Modifies when he says if he knew kids injured

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 56s56 seconds ago
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Reid: bottom line - whatever regret he had he says getting points/killing was worth
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Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 1m1 minute ago
Video interview stopped for now. Dr. Reid back on the stand for follow up questions. http://www.courtchatter.com/#!james-holmes-trial-stream-1/cmus … #theatershooting

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 52s52 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Reid: 2 poss. he knew right/wrong

1. Little mental illness relevant to shootings.
2. Points are delusion & accept MI

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 52s53 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Even if mental illness there, he was still aware he was trading lives/injuries to feel better

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 58s58 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Pros: any evidence this guy says he was justified?

Reid: He says he was b/c he feels better/didn’t have to kill self

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 38s38 seconds ago
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Reid: Others would agree only others who think the way he does would say killings justified

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Talking about apartment - he did it. Big deal around time/related to events

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Pros: Does it show intent?

Reid: He was doing it as way to make his shootings more effective by diverting

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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
Reid #theatershooting analysis: If Holmes isn't ill, he's killing 2 heal self. If he's delusion, he still wants healing. He=aware either way
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 59s60 seconds ago
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Reid: Setting up incendiary devices - He thought it may work. Rest was doesn’t have to catch fire to divert
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 41s42 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Seems rational to me to effectively carry out a crime
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[bexlex]

I have lots of reading to do...

But I am so upset about this video today. I wanted to throw up, and had tears streaming down my face.

I hope everyone is staying strong!!!!!

Take breaks....I was feeling earlier today that I don't want this guy in my head